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eltoastio
10-09-2008, 11:32
I'm planning a widetrack conversion for my valver and will need to replace my FK's as I've read they won't fit once the widetrack is fitted.
Now I have some 16v shocks with -35mm springs from before I fitted the FK's, would they fit with the Williams bits ok or will I need willy shocks? and are the tyres likely to rub on the arches with the -35mm?
I'm replacing lower arms, arb & driveshafts if that makes any difference.
white16valver
10-09-2008, 13:12
I think the bolt spacing on the dampers means that you end up running silly amounts of negative camber but I'm sure that someone will confirm or deny this who actually knows for sure! lol
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.
oh so you can use valver items, whats it drive like with the camber?
much more grip inside the corners :lol:
umm tempting the shocks i got with the widetrack seem shite compared to what i have. got any pics?
white16valver
10-09-2008, 17:03
Get standard front dampers from renault - not that much!
yeh got a qoute for like 49 each just wondering about saving some money as ive spent quite abit on the car recently.
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.
1.4 degree?
put a pic up please, cup racers ran 4 deg :D
white16valver
10-09-2008, 18:16
yeh got a qoute for like 49 each just wondering about saving some money as ive spent quite abit on the car recently.
I think this statement applies to anyone who's ever owned one LOL :lol:
eltoastio
10-09-2008, 18:49
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.
is that standard ride height? and what's the tyre wear like?
Also I have some camber adjustment bolts (think they are k-tec), would these return the camber to a standardish angle?
thanks guys.
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.
is that standard ride height? and what's the tyre wear like?
Also I have some camber adjustment bolts (think they are k-tec), would these return the camber to a standardish angle?
thanks guys.
lowered 30mm and tire wear is even better now. with standard camber the edges wear much faster. now its more balanced. i don't use the car for long distances by the way. only some racing in the country.
Mark One
10-09-2008, 20:09
pics of said extreme camber setup please :):)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/DSCF0527.jpg
;)
white16valver
11-09-2008, 12:52
:shock:
might try it for shits and giggles as i have both suspension set ups lol
Mark One
11-09-2008, 15:28
might try it for shits and giggles as i have both suspension set ups lol
ditto, totaly gonna try that when I get my setup. :twisted:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/dusk.jpg
white16valver
11-09-2008, 18:25
That is a mint pic 8) :D
but :shock: at the camber lol
Only had it on for a few days whilst I waited for some williams shocks to come though.. was amazing through the twisties but just ate through tyres :P
i see no pics :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Clio_GTT
11-09-2008, 18:56
i see no pics :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/dusk.jpg
click the link
i see pics now for some reason.
that first pic looks proper mint, have you had it set up? is it 1.4deg looks like touring car camber
northy needs to put a 4deg pic up to compare............
not had it set up
literally stuck valver shocks on with the williams wishbones
Mark One
12-09-2008, 12:24
your car looks the sex like that.
bet it'd be a great track setup
i run 3 degree neg on valver track with fk coilies, extra tyre wear is negligable, its a mis nomer blaming camber, its tracking out associated with incorrect setup after camber is added that results in excessive wear
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:35
Don't you find it difficult to stop though?
My RST had silly front camber (although not 3 degrees silly :shock: lol) and I struggled to get it to stop as I simply couldn't get a decent tyre footprint on the ground when braking!
nope, no issue at all, brakes are bob on, theres still plenty of footprint, the r888's help and i run slightly lower psi on them, around 27-29psi
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:37
Weird...
3 degrees isnt much mate, road tyres have more than enough give in them to make decent contact across the footprint of the tyre, i probably loose like 3mm width of contact max, and the extra pressure on the inside edge more than makes up for that. if it was an issue, why would the race cars run 4 degree neg, hardly going to risk loss of braking efficiency were they? :wink:
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:44
Makes me wonder what mine used to run then! :shock:
My tyres were literally rounded off smooth on the inside, so you had bout 80% of the tyre flat like it should be before the last, inner, 20% curved away... :shock:
trakin out mate, shouldnt do that just off camber, so something else in ur setup must of been amiss, i have run that much camber for 5k on my eagle f1's and they were still pretty much worn even across the tyres width when i sold them
white16valver
12-09-2008, 18:04
Odd.
Ah well, it's in car heaven now I think :( :cry:
I miss it a lot! although the valver is a much, much better drive.
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