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eltoastio
10-09-2008, 11:32
I'm planning a widetrack conversion for my valver and will need to replace my FK's as I've read they won't fit once the widetrack is fitted.

Now I have some 16v shocks with -35mm springs from before I fitted the FK's, would they fit with the Williams bits ok or will I need willy shocks? and are the tyres likely to rub on the arches with the -35mm?

I'm replacing lower arms, arb & driveshafts if that makes any difference.
white16valver
10-09-2008, 13:12
I think the bolt spacing on the dampers means that you end up running silly amounts of negative camber but I'm sure that someone will confirm or deny this who actually knows for sure! lol
G33R7
10-09-2008, 14:15
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.
bendee
10-09-2008, 15:44
oh so you can use valver items, whats it drive like with the camber?
G33R7
10-09-2008, 15:55
much more grip inside the corners :lol:
bendee
10-09-2008, 16:48
umm tempting the shocks i got with the widetrack seem shite compared to what i have. got any pics?
white16valver
10-09-2008, 17:03
Get standard front dampers from renault - not that much!
bendee
10-09-2008, 17:31
yeh got a qoute for like 49 each just wondering about saving some money as ive spent quite abit on the car recently.
speed
10-09-2008, 17:45
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.

1.4 degree?
put a pic up please, cup racers ran 4 deg :D
white16valver
10-09-2008, 18:16
yeh got a qoute for like 49 each just wondering about saving some money as ive spent quite abit on the car recently.
I think this statement applies to anyone who's ever owned one LOL :lol:
eltoastio
10-09-2008, 18:49
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.

is that standard ride height? and what's the tyre wear like?

Also I have some camber adjustment bolts (think they are k-tec), would these return the camber to a standardish angle?


thanks guys.
G33R7
10-09-2008, 19:00
i'm running 16v bilstein shock on my williams, gives me 1.4 negative camber.

is that standard ride height? and what's the tyre wear like?

Also I have some camber adjustment bolts (think they are k-tec), would these return the camber to a standardish angle?


thanks guys.

lowered 30mm and tire wear is even better now. with standard camber the edges wear much faster. now its more balanced. i don't use the car for long distances by the way. only some racing in the country.
Mark One
10-09-2008, 20:09
pics of said extreme camber setup please :):)
Matty86
11-09-2008, 08:17
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/DSCF0527.jpg

;)
white16valver
11-09-2008, 12:52
:shock:
bendee
11-09-2008, 13:50
might try it for shits and giggles as i have both suspension set ups lol
Mark One
11-09-2008, 15:28
might try it for shits and giggles as i have both suspension set ups lol

ditto, totaly gonna try that when I get my setup. :twisted:
BRUN
11-09-2008, 17:36
!!!
Matty86
11-09-2008, 18:25
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/dusk.jpg
white16valver
11-09-2008, 18:25
That is a mint pic 8) :D

but :shock: at the camber lol
Matty86
11-09-2008, 18:33
Only had it on for a few days whilst I waited for some williams shocks to come though.. was amazing through the twisties but just ate through tyres :P
speed
11-09-2008, 18:44
i see no pics :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Clio_GTT
11-09-2008, 18:56
i see no pics :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z18/Matteh449/dusk.jpg

click the link
bendee
11-09-2008, 19:44
looks evil lol
speed
11-09-2008, 20:04
i see pics now for some reason.
that first pic looks proper mint, have you had it set up? is it 1.4deg looks like touring car camber

northy needs to put a 4deg pic up to compare............
Matty86
11-09-2008, 20:19
not had it set up

literally stuck valver shocks on with the williams wishbones
Mark One
12-09-2008, 12:24
your car looks the sex like that.
bet it'd be a great track setup
Coops
12-09-2008, 17:34
i run 3 degree neg on valver track with fk coilies, extra tyre wear is negligable, its a mis nomer blaming camber, its tracking out associated with incorrect setup after camber is added that results in excessive wear
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:35
Don't you find it difficult to stop though?

My RST had silly front camber (although not 3 degrees silly :shock: lol) and I struggled to get it to stop as I simply couldn't get a decent tyre footprint on the ground when braking!
Coops
12-09-2008, 17:36
nope, no issue at all, brakes are bob on, theres still plenty of footprint, the r888's help and i run slightly lower psi on them, around 27-29psi
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:37
Weird...
Coops
12-09-2008, 17:39
3 degrees isnt much mate, road tyres have more than enough give in them to make decent contact across the footprint of the tyre, i probably loose like 3mm width of contact max, and the extra pressure on the inside edge more than makes up for that. if it was an issue, why would the race cars run 4 degree neg, hardly going to risk loss of braking efficiency were they? :wink:
white16valver
12-09-2008, 17:44
Makes me wonder what mine used to run then! :shock:

My tyres were literally rounded off smooth on the inside, so you had bout 80% of the tyre flat like it should be before the last, inner, 20% curved away... :shock:
Coops
12-09-2008, 18:03
trakin out mate, shouldnt do that just off camber, so something else in ur setup must of been amiss, i have run that much camber for 5k on my eagle f1's and they were still pretty much worn even across the tyres width when i sold them
white16valver
12-09-2008, 18:04
Odd.

Ah well, it's in car heaven now I think :( :cry:

I miss it a lot! although the valver is a much, much better drive.