172 front springs?

[fasterthanjesus]

why do people recommend 172 front springs?

what is the ride height, is it lower?

[eternalife]

172, Williams and Valvers all share the same springs. They are pretty easy to get hold of as many 172 owners choose to 'upgrade'.
Denoted by 2 White Dots on the springs.

172 CUP Springs are slightly stiffer and a few mm lower than the above.
Denoted by one Yellow and one White dot on the spring (as opposed to 2 white dots).

[MatBrown]

What he said. :goodposting:


Mat.

[white16valver]

Ride height with 172 cup springs:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/CIMG4887.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/CIMG2339.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/CIMG5310.jpg

:)

[white16valver]

Actually, that middle one is just old, sagged, standard suspension iirc so ignore that one LoL

[eternalife]

Mine on Cup 172 Springs (they are like 15k old at the time)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r229/valverflavour/DSCF0076.jpg

[robi1000]

172, Williams and Valvers all share the same springs.
172 CUP Springs are slightly stiffer and a few mm lower than the above.
Denoted by one Yellow and one White dot on the spring (as opposed to 2 white dots).

I don't think valvers have the same springs as willy. Valvers have only one dot and it's in many different colours. Williams has as said 2 white ones.

[eternalife]

172, Williams and Valvers all share the same springs.
172 CUP Springs are slightly stiffer and a few mm lower than the above.
Denoted by one Yellow and one White dot on the spring (as opposed to 2 white dots).

I don't think valvers have the same springs as willy. Valvers have only one dot and it's in many different colours. Williams has as said 2 white ones.

My shocks and springs from old valver as pictured:
From all the OEM valver springs I have seen they are the same as Williams.
Never heard anyone contradict either. Maybe the ones you have seen are not OEM?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r229/valverflavour/13032008173.jpg

[robi1000]

Maybe they are the same in England. Not in Europe though. At least here you can get 5+ (I've heard there are around 10 different springs) different colours for valver depending how hard do you want your car to be. But since I don't own a valver I didn't go to the details of the colour code. Maybe someone else from Europe can confirm this. But it's true that from all the valvers I've seen all of them had only one dot and it wasn't white.

[robi1000]

Maybe I've confused this with the dot on the shocks. Those are definetly different. It's late here (1 AM). :) Will check this next time I'm in the garage.

[robi1000]

Why there's no edit button! Now everybody will see that I'm a fool. :D Yup, you're right. All springs are the same (16V, W, ph1 1.7.2.). Shocks aren't. Does anyone know what those coloured dots on the shocks mean? As far as I've seen willy has only one type, where valvers have loads of different types.

[fasterthanjesus]

do i get 172 cup front springs?

and

should i bother replacing the rear springs? or just adjust the torsion bar to a suitable height?

cheers

[Coops]

get the cups imo if u want it a bit stiffer and reset rear torsion bar 5mm or so down to compensate and level up the car, rear shocks shud be fine for 5-10mm drop

[Allan]

do i get 17poo cup front springs?

and

should i bother replacing the rear springs? or just adjust the torsion bar to a suitable height?

cheers

Rear springs?

[fasterthanjesus]

yep i saw a set of 172 cup springs front and rear

i know shit all about the rear of the car (ive never had to look) ive spunked all my money under the bonnet and on various spray jobs!

is there just a torsion bar at the back apart from the boot and fuel tank??? :?

[richy]

yeah no rear springs on a mk1 clio! torsion bar all the way!!