Door hinge pins - renewal?

[alex_e3]

Once again, more problems with taking the clio apart!

After MAJOR trouble taking the drivers side door out, i.e. the pins snapped, and the remainder would not budge with a pin punch, i obviously am gonna need new door pins.

Now assuming renault supply these no problems, i still think i'm gonna have a bit of play in the door, due to age related wear on the hinges on the door. After having a close look at the hinges welded to the car, it appears that they have a metal sleeve fitted to them, is this correct? If so, is it possible you can remove the sleeves and replace with new ones from renault?

I really want to get rid of the age related play in the doors, but i am definitely not welding new hinges on, as this is a nightmare of a job.

Cheers again,

Al :-)

[cliorod]

You can get the pins and the bushes you mention,still are available,and not to dear,the problem is getting the old hinge pin out :oops:

[Daz.]

As rod said I've got some sat here waiting to go on my replacement doors - if I ever finish this car and make it actually mobile enough to go visit to a certain someone! :oops: I'd be able to tell you if new pins stop the sagging!

[obie_shaun996]

last time my door pins went. i welded a nut on top..

[alex_e3]

How do you get the bushes out Rod? Drill them out?

Have a job first to drill the snapped pins out which is gonna be fun!


Do you reckon just new hinge pins would do it? Or would it be wise to get these outer sleeves changed too?

[Wobba]

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/barneywobba/My%2016V/DSC00186.jpg

Any use?

[alex_e3]

Hmmmm..... looks like just new pins won't solve the problem after looking at that :?

Also, just got back from Winston's place after picking new tailgate up, and my dad had drilled the pins out. Problem is, the top hinge sleeve is looking a bit buggered 'coz of how awkward they were to drill out. So, as long as it's possible, some new sleeves as well as pins look the way to go.

So the question i need the answer to is - do you drill these bushes out? If anyone's done it, what size drill bit did they use, i.e. so not to damage the hinge below???


Damn french cars!

[Quinster]

Hello mate,
I drilled out both the pin and the sleeve. As you have found out getting a drill in their is tricky and at a slight angle.
With new sleeves and pins the new door is perfect, even with a slight elipse shape for a hole on the door bracket/hinge. I was going to back fill the sleeves with liquid metal filler form the DIY shop, but all seemed and still seems okay.
My origional door had to be scrapped due to the thread being knackered.

Good luck, Lee.

[cliorod]

A really easy way,but it needs a lot of care :roll: :shock: :roll:

It is rather drastic,but it does work :~ I had a good man with a "gas~axe" take mine out,you need a very thick old bath towel or water trapping cloth,hold it on the paint work around the door edge,GENTLY HEAT around the hinge/pin once warm/hot use your Torx/allen key and wind them out ~~ Presto :wink: :wink:
When the pin came out,The bushes were still ok,checked the size with a bore micrometer,and had very little wear in them,Insert the new pins ~~ door hangs perfect.

If you do it this way ~~~ PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL ~~ IT PUT THE S**TS UP ME, :shock: :shock: :shock: to see the flames etc around the paint work,The guy who did it,has been around body repairs all his working life ~~ 35 years :lol: :lol:

[Daz.]

A really easy way,but it needs a lot of care :roll: :shock: :roll:

It is rather drastic,but it does work :~ I had a good man with a "gas~axe" take mine out,you need a very thick old bath towel or water trapping cloth,hold it on the paint work around the door edge,GENTLY HEAT around the hinge/pin once warm/hot use your Torx/allen key and wind them out ~~ Presto :wink: :wink:
When the pin came out,The bushes were still ok,checked the size with a bore micrometer,and had very little wear in them,Insert the new pins ~~ door hangs perfect.

If you do it this way ~~~ PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL ~~ IT PUT THE S**TS UP ME, :shock: :shock: :shock: to see the flames etc around the paint work,The guy who did it,has been around body repairs all his working life ~~ 35 years :lol: :lol:

Suddenly I fancy staying in tomorrow :lol:

[cliorod]

Daz ~~ you big WUSS :D :D .It aint the place/guy we are going to see mate :wink: :wink: .Just an old friend,who can repair/straighten owt :roll: :x :shock: .
He really is a master of a CAROLINA (body Jig).

What time are you gonna be at my place,I'm shopping in Blackburn :oops: :oops: ,til 12.
Rodders.

[Daz.]

Daz ~~ you big WUSS :D :D .It aint the place/guy we are going to see mate :wink: :wink: .Just an old friend,who can repair/straighten owt :roll: :x :shock: .
He really is a master of a CAROLINA (body Jig).

What time are you gonna be at my place,I'm shopping in Blackburn :oops: :oops: ,til 12.
Rodders.

Well I was coming over around 11am but looks like I'll be waiting a while :lol:

As soon as your in really - its my brothers 21st today so I HAVE to be back early/mid afternoon without fail or my mum will end up re-arranging the front end! :lol: :lol:

[alex_e3]

Cheers Rod!

I've actually drilled one of the snapped pins out now - along with bushes. The new bushe are in top and bottom, and i have new pins too! They're such a tight fit now - there's no way on this earth there's gonna be any play in them now!

Rod are you going to Mull this year? The countdown has begun!

[cliorod]

Yup on the way to Mull :lol: :lol: ~~ not competing this year though :cry: :cry: :cry: .The driver I had lined up,has not been able to fund the trip :cry: :cry: ~~It aint cheap as you know,I reckon me and Diane could spend 10 days in the Caribbean :roll: :roll: :roll: .With the entry and Ferry costs alone its the thick end of a grand :shock: :shock: .Without tyres tax,insurance( damage cover).
I will be doing my charity music Quiz in the Mishnish ~~ Wednesday night.Helping out :roll: :wink: :roll: at signing on,and most probably marshalling on Saturday afternoon ~~~ In between times,I might try a few shandies :twisted: :evil: :roll: