Williams Coolant Hose Request

[eternalife]

I have been looking at a few companies to supply Silicone Coolant hoses for the Williams and creating a group buy accordingly. I will endeavour to try and make the 'deal' an open ended discount for Club users.
At the moment, the cost for such Silicone hoses seems quite dear to me.

One company I have been talking to has requested to get a set of the coolant hoses for the Clio Williams in order to provide a quotation, and to replicate them in silicone form.

Therefore, anyone who has spare (old) coolant hoses please 'post up' what you have and I will be in touch accordingly.

Many thanks.

[fasterthanjesus]

daft question time

what is the actual benefit? just more robust?

[eternalife]

daft question time

what is the actual benefit? just more robust?

No deterioration, can with stand effects of heat/pressure (better)
OEM hose prices are a joke (checked against dailogues - sp?) any reno people confirm?

Old rubber hoses, through heat/pressure expansion are prone to failure.
Also, clips seem to cut through OEM hoses far too easily (even more so when they are 10+ years old).

[fasterthanjesus]

im sold then.

depending on colour, price, availablity etc.

[Wobba]

Yup. Samco prices are a joke tbh. If you can source sets for the Willyams, at a good price, count Wobba in ;)

[Coops]

do all williams run the oil cooler,as the pipework is different for oil cooler and no oil cooler models, mine doesnt have the o/e cooler is all and if the price is right i may be interested, provided black or yellow can be had :)

[u33db]

Can you get these for other models (i.e. RSI).

I would be interested if cost isn't too prohibitive...

[ThRaXaIR]

sounds interesting dude count me in if you get anything going!

[dickies_willy2]

i'll be interested if this goes ahead :D

[eternalife]

Well as it stands....

I need to get a hold of all the coolant pipes in order to get a quote and also to allow replication of - any help will be much appreciated...

If 15 people buy, one company has offered a 20% discount -
Someone did mention to me - 'williams owners are tight fisted, wont be able to make the numbers' :lol: :cry:


In reply to other questions...
A few of the companies I have been in touch with can replicate any coolant pipe so other models can be catered for. Unfortunately I do not have the time to do this - I am only trying to get the Williams hoses made up as I need some myself. I must add, that companies will be unlikely to want to make a small number of hoses 'bespoke'...as this does not give them good economies of scale...so either the consumer pays extra - or they refuse.

Coops AFAIK all Williams had the OEM cooler set up - early valvers did too. And I also want black silicone coolant hoses.

[stevie_b]

Where is the company based? I have a set of silicone hoses already that I might be prepared to let them borrow if it helps everyone out, but I need to know that I can get them back within a reasonable timeframe.

[eternalife]

Where is the company based? I have a set of silicone hoses already that I might be prepared to let them borrow if it helps everyone out, but I need to know that I can get them back within a reasonable timeframe.

That would be really generous of you if you could/would do that...sending you a PM now.

[MAXIBOY]

i bought samco's as they were still cheaper when i looked than buying new geniune renault hoses and nobody else made them...

think a geniune bottom hose alone was 98 quid iirc

[FATBOY]

im in!

[eternalife]

i bought samco's as they were still cheaper when i looked than buying new geniune renault hoses and nobody else made them...

think a geniune bottom hose alone was 98 quid iirc

Yep, I havent been and asked reno myself - but the cost of the hoses from a version of dialogies (sp?) told to me by a friend were as follows:

5 branch: 77 00 804 534 £59.89
rad to the thermostat housing: 77 00 832 837 £44.91
heater matrix to thermostat housing: 77 00 804 635 £56.98
heater matrix to coolant expansion tank 77 00 813 971 £8.52
expansion tank lower to thermostat housing: 77 00 804 636 £7.30
expansion tank upper to thermostat housing: 77 00 801 074 £10.79

[Zek]

i bought samco's as they were still cheaper when i looked than buying new geniune renault hoses and nobody else made them...

think a geniune bottom hose alone was 98 quid iirc

Yep, I havent been and asked reno myself - but the cost of the hoses from a version of dialogies (sp?) told to me by a friend were as follows:

5 branch: 77 00 804 534 £59.89
rad to the thermostat housing: 77 00 832 837 £44.91
heater matrix to thermostat housing: 77 00 804 635 £56.98
heater matrix to coolant expansion tank 77 00 813 971 £8.52
expansion tank lower to thermostat housing: 77 00 804 636 £7.30
expansion tank upper to thermostat housing: 77 00 801 074 £10.79


Is that even plus vat? if it is'nt your looking at about 220 for the oem stuff :shock:

[Zek]

how much was the samco kit?

[eternalife]

Zek
Those prices do not include VAT
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Things are moving forward at the moment - have been quoted the following from one supplier.

I have managed to negotiate a VAT free price, have a direct line number for the person who I am dealing with and the company which will be used is extremely reputable.

Hoses specification: Silicone Hoses (I believe they are original Samcos)
Hoses included: 2 Major coolant hoses (one of which is the 5 branch) and 4 ancillaries
Colours Availible: Blue (2 weeks lead time) other colours (3-4 weeks lead time) approximately.
Price: £227
Delivery Charges (uk): £8

That makes it £235 including delivery for all 6 hoses (colour of your choice).

This is more or less on par with the Renault OEM Prices.
I do not believe I will be able to get the hoses cheaper from anywhere else and therefore will not be pursuing other suppliers/manufacturers.

Need a confirmed list of people who are interested now.

List as follows:
1. eternalife (confirmed)
2.

[eternalife]

Please confirm your interest here:
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=316154#316154

[MatBrown]

You can get the full set of ten samco hoses for £286.85 delivered.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAMCO-SILICONE-COOLANT-HOSE-KIT-RENAULT-CLIO-1-1-8-16V_W0QQitemZ260255549735QQihZ016QQcategoryZ43117Q QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAMCO-SILICONE-ANCILLARY-KIT-RENAULT-CLIO-1-1-8-16V_W0QQitemZ260255541838QQihZ016QQcategoryZ43117Q QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAMCO-SILICONE-ANCILLARY-KIT-RENAULT-CLIO-1-1-8-16V_W0QQitemZ260255541802QQihZ016QQcategoryZ43117Q QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem


Mat.

[eternalife]

He has been emailed - waiting on reply.
I have a feeling someone ordered the kit from the above person and it was a 3 branch valver set up not the 5 branch Williams/early valver design.

[eternalife]

Oh Buggery - Mat Brown was right.
Above ebay links coincide with 5 branch hose required for the williams (at least that is what I have been told by the seller).

I am ordering on monday. No group buy needed really - LOL

[MatBrown]

:wink:
:matbrown:


Mat.