MK 1 Phase II Valver clutch cable

[SilverValver]

Hi I have just come over from club clio because I need some specialist help. I brought a 1995 M 1.8 16v about a month ago and the clutch cable snapped. Not a big problem you might think but it is. The cable renault supplied is too long and needed to be spaced using washers to make it fit. Renault said this was the only cable that was avaliable and suggested I needed to change the clutch pedal. I did this and still had the same problem. I then went back to renault and they said that they didn't know what else it could be and that if I had taken it to them all they would have done is spaced the cable at the gear box. I have done this but it is a bodge and I have no confidence in it as it could come loose.

I cannot believe that you cannot buy a clutch cable to fit the 16V as there are still so many out there. Does anyone know whether this is the only way to do it or do you have the parts number for the correct clutch cable. Has anyone else ever had this problem.

Basically when the cable is fitted the bite is nearly at the floor and you cannot disengage the clutch- this means you have to crunch into each gear. This is why I had to make a metal spacer to shorten it but there must be a better way?

Thanks

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[Rich]

as far as i know the renault cable is the only one that fits properly :? so not sure there mate! you sure it isnt time for a new clutch also?

[Allan]

Hmm i fitted a new cable to summys williams recently, i will asssume the use similar cables. I had alsorts of problems getting it to fit, it would work fine for a while but then it would start to crunch once it was warmed up. I presumed the cable was expanding with heat, i sugested spacing it out to summy but in the end we left it as it was. But it would see that it is a common problem
Summy might still have the invoice with part number and we can see if you have the same cable

I think stromba also has a similar problem.

[summeh]

my clutch is fine now altho i get a crunch in reverse now.

Started off with the same prob you discribe and i did think about spacing it with washers at the gearbox, but in the end it got better as it lost its "newness".

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Are you sure the adjusting cam mechanism on the pedal is working ok? The cables normally snap at about 1-2" short of the end that attaches to the pedal.

If it snapped there, it may also be worth fitting the revised pedal assembly from Renault which cures the snapping cable as well.

The cam gears are only plastic and do wear with time.

[richy]

the only cable i could get to fit mine was a genuine renault cable, all none gen was to short! cant se it being the cable tbh as said maybe the pedal mechanism hasnt set correctly

[edde]

Check the pedal assesmbl. Mine had a broken spring in it. Its a right awquard thing to remove though.

[Allan]

[quote="Renault said this was the only cable that was avaliable and suggested I needed to change the clutch pedal. I did this and still had the same problem.[/quote]

So i guess that rules out the pedal problem every who didnt read commended about :P

Although did you fit a new pedal or an old second hand one ?

Mine clicks all the time now but i looked at the cable the other day and it was fine, so i think its probably the pedal assemblty

[Swervin_Mervin]

It could be renault being fvckwits of course. The part no. should be 7700829067 for the cable and 7700829101 for the pedal stops.

Assuming they're right then fvck knows. Mine had the wrong cable fitted when I bought it, and the local specialist fotted a renault one and it's been spot on ever since.

[SilverValver]

Thnks everyone for your input. I put a 15mm metal spacer in and it sort of works but occasionally in crunches reverse and it can be difficult to get into gear.

I have fitted a brand new cable 7700829067
and new pedal 7701467633 Thid is different to what Swervin_Mervin specified but is that for the whole pedal or just the adjusters?

I just can't believe that the only way to make it work is to bodge it.

[Swervin_Mervin]

The other part no. was for the pedal stops or something. £1.odd each. I assume they're for adjusting it?

[SilverValver]

I'm dealing with renault directly now so i should get some results. Its not totally bad as it is but as the engine warms up it becomes notchy and hard to drive. It also crunches reverse which can't do the gearbox any good. All I want is to get it working properly but if they do provide me with the right cable i might by a few so i have spares. I'll keep you posted so at least all the other 16V/williams owners know whats what.

[Lunner]

Mine is notchy in 1st,2nd and sometimes third, more so when its cold, and cruches reverse, just presumed this was normal, gear change is only notchy when moving, ie when pulling up to a junction, and shifting inot either 2nd or 1st, once you completely stop its fine

[edde]

I think you have the same probelm I've reciently had so sit down for a shock.
The clucth sounds like its broke. Mine did the same thing I replaced the clucth tension spring and the cable and you needed to have more pull on the cable like you've made but it just didn't work.

Best way to see if its the same problem as I had is leave it in first or reverse and with the clucth down (no wahsers or bodges) with no brakes and ask somoene to see if the car moves at all. If the car moves the clutch has bust the the plates around the springs which broke on mine. Its not down to age after all mines ha a new clucth in the past year or two.

The car will probably be fine for a few days mine broke just before FCS and I drove it there (had a few problems with it) round the track to Bristol back home again then to the local garage and just on my way out of the garge it finally snapped no indication other then the garge bloke saying it might have been a clucth problem.

Its about £300 from clucth specialists for a new clucth and takes a day to do. if you can find someone to do it cheaper then you can knock some money off.

Might be worth asking at Renault as the techies there get parts cheaper and often are more aware how to fit the parts for less than Renault charge. Also make sure you get some new roll pins for the drive shafts there 39p each so best buy 2 as if you don't have them and find the one in the cars been incorrectly fitted or broken you have to go back to Renault for a new one.

[lewis_willy2]

clutches, gearboxes im on the verge of givin up,my cable snapped 2months ago! still not sorted as i drove it home, 50 odd miles n thought its an easy enough job, it took my local garage 8 hours all in all 2 fit, and its not a renault part, and as you say too short! to top it all of i go to pick my car up n theres good and bad news, good: they got the cable in £50(not including cable) Bad:there is now a split in my gearbox, so here i am. gave it to anoother garage who quoted me £150 to fix 6 weeks l8a he hadnt even touched it, so now im doin the bloody thing on my drive! and i got a 19 16v box and am mid way through, jus gotta make sure the box will fit as its slightly different!

valvers, i love em!

[SilverValver]

ok guys. I have been dealing direct with renault and basically it is a problem they have known about for sometime but as the cars are quite old they have no interest in producing a cable which is a perfect fit. You have to use the cable which is too long and space it at the gear box.