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Andyvalver
21-06-2005, 14:21
Not as quick as one thought :D

Was just going round an island on to a dc when i saw him in my sights. Down to 2nd and i unleashed a possibble 137+bhp :D . Gave chase good and proper, he was caining it and i only lost about 3ish car lenghts to 110 :D . Got to the end of the dc and had to wait at the island :roll: . He nailed from there and so did i. Was right behind him, proper 3 wheel action + a bit of sideways :oops: . Nailed it on the exit and was right behind him. There was to many cars about after that so things slowed down. He moved over to the left for me and i just cruised past at a steady 50. Gave him a look and thumbs up but got no reaction He looked well pissed off lol. Result :D

Not raced one before but thought it would be quicker as lots of people rave on about them. Bout as quick as a cooper s i raced a while back. It only pulls noticable in 3rd onwards.

Martin
21-06-2005, 14:26
I wanna race a 182... :twisted: Good going fella...sounds about right tbh. 182s should get a bit faster with mileage...the ones I've seen/heard have'nt beeen quick.

Jamie.
21-06-2005, 15:55
sweeet mate :D

Andyvalver
21-06-2005, 16:59
:D I will take on any williams now. :twisted:

Martin
21-06-2005, 17:08
prob be the same result I imagine...

Andyvalver
21-06-2005, 17:10
Yeah, thats what i thought.

Winston
21-06-2005, 17:11
182 hunting .....They never seem to be up for it :roll:

Andyvalver
21-06-2005, 17:49
Go past giving the wanker sign. They always seem up for it then :D

Martin
21-06-2005, 17:51
lol

2 live
21-06-2005, 20:39
lol

Allan
21-06-2005, 22:28
Tbh i recon my valver must just be dam slow !
cant even touch summys williams now it just flys past like im standing still

Although some chick in a ZR tried to give it a go the other night and didnt even get close once i reliased she was gunning it lol

never raced another valver / willy other then summys tho...

only mod i have is an ITG so pritty standard tho..

lagerlout1
21-06-2005, 23:32
Sounds fair. If you lined up all of the hot hatches, you wouldn't see much difference until well after 60 mph. I raced and just overtook a 182 on a dualy from a level start. But like someone said above, miles make a lot of difference to these engines. My 172 is much quicker at 15,000 miles than it was at 5,000 miles. It was an 05 182. So probably only had a few thousand on it. And it sounded/looked like he was holding onto his gears for too long.

Either way, good skills.

Martin
21-06-2005, 23:35
Tbh i recon my valver must just be dam slow !
cant even touch summys williams now it just flys past like im standing still

Although some chick in a ZR tried to give it a go the other night and didnt even get close once i reliased she was gunning it lol

never raced another valver / willy other then summys tho...

only mod i have is an ITG so pritty standard tho..

Does'nt sound right to me fella...Dannyt's valver was virtually the same to 60 as my williams then I pulled about 3-4 car lengths by the end of 4th circa 110.

Allan
22-06-2005, 00:27
More then likely cause im a fat fooker lol 16 stone :P
oh well less burgers for me lol, will have to lose some weight and race him :P

But he does pull on me somthing stupid, will have to get it rolling roaded at some point, the car is on nearly 120k now so i think its worn in!

smokey
23-06-2005, 00:38
you sure they were trying mate :wink:

My ex-valver would struggle to keep with my 172 let alone my 182.
My hybrid would whip the 172 but struggles against the 182.
Valver is on par with 172
Williams is on par with 182

Just my un biased opinion of course

KingStromba
23-06-2005, 00:51
Can only really compare engines of the same mileage to be totally fair though.

StevieP
23-06-2005, 01:48
you sure they were trying mate :wink:

My ex-valver would struggle to keep with my 172 let alone my 182.
My hybrid would whip the 172 but struggles against the 182.
Valver is on par with 172
Williams is on par with 182

Just my un biased opinion of course

Hold on, you've said that your ex-valver would struggle to keep with your 172, but then go on to say that the Valver is on par with a 172?

I've had a go with a few Valvers, and the 172 just pulls away, not too quickly, but pulls on it enough, had a go with my mates N reg valver which has an IK (probably a bad idea?!) and a zorst and my 172 just had a panel filter and from a rolling start I'd reel him in comfortably.. This of course could be different with different 172's/valvers....

Oh and round the track at FCS, on the straights the valvers wern't that difficult to pass.. So valvers aren't on par with any 172 in my unbiased opinion.... I'd say the 172 was more on par with a Williams....

*cue flamage*

Dan_mk1
23-06-2005, 08:50
Ive had a play with a few 172's, nothing in it till about 90/100 where the 172 started to pull away.

Andyvalver
23-06-2005, 09:32
you sure they were trying mate :wink:

My ex-valver would struggle to keep with my 172 let alone my 182.
My hybrid would whip the 172 but struggles against the 182.
Valver is on par with 172
Williams is on par with 182

Just my un biased opinion of course


The fact that he was on 3 wheels goin round the island sort of makes me think he was going for it and i was stuck to his arse. Im sorry but there is **** all difference between a 172 and a 182 in the real world so Valver on par with 172 and willy with a 182 is shite. I lost about 3ish car lengths to bout 110. Thats about what it would pull on me on the 1/4 mile.

Andyvalver
23-06-2005, 09:38
Can only really compare engines of the same mileage to be totally fair though.


True, Mine has done 143k so surely you guys would be thinking its slower now due to its old and worn piston rings loosing compression. Surely my high miler vs a newish 182 is unfair on me :?

KingStromba
23-06-2005, 10:22
In the real world on a dual carriages way there would be very little difference between all of these cars (if healthy and on the same mileage).

You may pull 1/2 a car length on a valver in a 172 cup between roundabouts, but not much. The real differences become apparent in the cars when placed on a B road (not a track as these cars are designed to be road cars).

The results arent scientific, but i think we will all agree that there is only one outcome. The valver would win. The 182 would break down and be taken off on a Renault recovery truck. The 172 would break down, but not be taken anywhere as it is out of warrenty. The 172cup would end up backwards in a hedge. And the Williams would not show up as it would be taking on some proper supercars in the Welsh mountains for the Evo Mag boys.

TomS
23-06-2005, 11:52
lol ! ^^^

:D

mike172sport
24-06-2005, 00:35
In the real world on a dual carriages way there would be very little difference between all of these cars (if healthy and on the same mileage).

You may pull 1/2 a car length on a valver in a 172 cup between roundabouts, but not much. The real differences become apparent in the cars when placed on a B road (not a track as these cars are designed to be road cars).

The results arent scientific, but i think we will all agree that there is only one outcome. The valver would win. The 182 would break down and be taken off on a Renault recovery truck. The 172 would break down, but not be taken anywhere as it is out of warrenty. The 172cup would end up backwards in a hedge. And the Williams would not show up as it would be taking on some proper supercars in the Welsh mountains for the Evo Mag boys.


HAHA, your about rite as well, post that on cliosport go on u know ya wana :D

Andyvalver
24-06-2005, 11:05
Shall i post this thread up on cliosport or will they get upset? :D

KingStromba
24-06-2005, 11:12
It will get deleted. Either old man James or gay boy Tomthumb will delete it

Andyvalver
24-06-2005, 11:16
:D

Allan
24-06-2005, 11:17
post it anyway :P
where abouts in derby u from andy ?

Andyvalver
24-06-2005, 11:22
Not saying now its on cliosport. I'll be hunted down, hey guys lol

KingStromba
24-06-2005, 11:33
I read an artical about how really bad drivers have to put coilovers on their 182's because they are not good enough to drive the car fast in standard trim.


Its been scietifically proven.

Tom16v
24-06-2005, 18:23
Back in the day when i had my mildly tuned valver i managed to creep past a mk1 172!

I dont really care if i'm beleived or not now though tbh as the cars long gone! lol

Walter
24-06-2005, 18:41
not had a race with a 172 but theres load round are way. think i would get beat but not by loads cos valvers weigh **** all. i'd like a 182 cup but i really want a williams instead as they look loads better and are meant to still be the fastest and best handling hothatch u can get

smokey
25-06-2005, 00:54
you sure they were trying mate :wink:

My ex-valver would struggle to keep with my 172 let alone my 182.
My hybrid would whip the 172 but struggles against the 182.
Valver is on par with 172
Williams is on par with 182

Just my un biased opinion of course

Hold on, you've said that your ex-valver would struggle to keep with your 172, but then go on to say that the Valver is on par with a 172?

I've had a go with a few Valvers, and the 172 just pulls away, not too quickly, but pulls on it enough, had a go with my mates N reg valver which has an IK (probably a bad idea?!) and a zorst and my 172 just had a panel filter and from a rolling start I'd reel him in comfortably.. This of course could be different with different 172's/valvers....

Oh and round the track at FCS, on the straights the valvers wern't that difficult to pass.. So valvers aren't on par with any 172 in my unbiased opinion.... I'd say the 172 was more on par with a Williams....

*cue flamage*

I know what i said.
The valver struggles (1 maybe 2 car lengths) which is on par but 'struggling' to keep with it and over twice the distance its 3 maybe 4 car lengths off and so on and so on. Same with the williams & 182.

smokey
25-06-2005, 01:00
you sure they were trying mate :wink:

My ex-valver would struggle to keep with my 172 let alone my 182.
My hybrid would whip the 172 but struggles against the 182.
Valver is on par with 172
Williams is on par with 182

Just my un biased opinion of course


The fact that he was on 3 wheels goin round the island sort of makes me think he was going for it and i was stuck to his arse. Im sorry but there is f*ck all difference between a 172 and a 182 in the real world so Valver on par with 172 and willy with a 182 is shite. I lost about 3ish car lengths to bout 110. Thats about what it would pull on me on the 1/4 mile.

In my 1st post........... what does im my 'unbiased' opinion mean?? It means i love them all and dont have a favourite. So why would i lie?????

Anyway, like you would really know! Own them all do you??????

How do you know he didnt miss a gear change, light a fag or get a fly in his eye?? Exactly you dont, I personally have tested them all myself and know for sure i did not miss a gear change or have a fly in my eye.

But as i said, it was in my opinion, and if you know better then so be it. I must be a lying skanky chav who only really owns a chavved up nova. Innit Bruv *sigh*

smokey
25-06-2005, 01:02
Dont you just love driving tales :P

northy
25-06-2005, 09:05
smokey - you coming on the 1/4mile weekend at the pod ? on the 16th and 17th in a car to challenge us williams boyo's ?

StevieP
25-06-2005, 19:29
In the real world on a dual carriages way there would be very little difference between all of these cars (if healthy and on the same mileage).

You may pull 1/2 a car length on a valver in a 172 cup between roundabouts, but not much. The real differences become apparent in the cars when placed on a B road (not a track as these cars are designed to be road cars).

The results arent scientific, but i think we will all agree that there is only one outcome. The valver would win. The 182 would break down and be taken off on a Renault recovery truck. The 172 would break down, but not be taken anywhere as it is out of warrenty. The 172cup would end up backwards in a hedge. And the Williams would not show up as it would be taking on some proper supercars in the Welsh mountains for the Evo Mag boys.

I concur....

J o n
25-06-2005, 19:45
Smokey, what size are those wheels on the hybrid???

JayR
27-06-2005, 00:57
They were originally 17" Velas iirc but didnt he go back to standard turbs?

smokey
28-06-2005, 00:29
nah unfortuanately the 182 is going, but the hybrid may be there.

She's coming out to play for a cpl of months before i sell her too.

Yeah they were 17's but im running Turbs now. Im in the process of refurbing them white thou :)