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robi1000
20-06-2008, 08:59
Can someone tell me what is this parts for?
This is next to the radiator:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/10833367/T_kIO678cb6OEoEp.jpg
Robi
robi1000
20-06-2008, 09:53
Yeah, I've read somewhere it was oil cooler for the PAS, but can't imagine why would you need one? I'd understand if one would want to cool brake oil or sth like that. But why PAS?
id recon pas cooler too.
pas oil gets hot! on track most 16v's and williams overflow as the pas fuild gets hot and comes out the top of the resevior.
Swervin_Mervin
20-06-2008, 17:42
id recon pas cooler too.
pas oil gets hot! on track most 16v's and williams overflow as the pas fuild gets hot and comes out the top of the resevior.
Yes. Best option is to use a home-made catch tank. You could plumb in a PAS cooler from the R19 though.
robi1000
20-06-2008, 17:45
Gearbox oil cooler
Are you shure? It's definitely more logical than PAS cooler. Especially because I don't believe MAXI did more then 15km per stage at all. And that would be a lot. I'd say more like 5km per stage and I don't believe PAS fluid gets so hot you'd have to cool it?
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g30/speed_bucket/img061.jpg
pas cooler
its a power steering fluid cooler must get hot on rally stages i assume 8)
gets hot 1.4 miling and trackdays lads....heat kills the pumps
Justin..
20-06-2008, 22:33
id recon pas cooler too.
pas oil gets hot! on track most 16v's and williams overflow as the pas fuild gets hot and comes out the top of the resevior.
Yes. Best option is to use a home-made catch tank. You could plumb in a PAS cooler from the R19 though.#
any picS?
Swervin_Mervin
20-06-2008, 23:36
Of the catch tank or R19 cooler?
Cooler looks like the Maxi one but without the kinks in one side. Sits behind the rad.
When I was investigating cooling I was going to heat wrap the return pipe to the PAS reservoir as that runs very close to the exhaust manifold. In the end I just went for the catch tank.
its a power steering fluid cooler must get hot on rally stages i assume 8)
now your just showing off :lol:
Gearbox oil cooler
Are you shure? It's definitely more logical than PAS cooler. Especially because I don't believe MAXI did more then 15km per stage at all. And that would be a lot. I'd say more like 5km per stage and I don't believe PAS fluid gets so hot you'd have to cool it?
no lol, it was a guess!
robi1000
21-06-2008, 23:15
Ha ha! If I had to bet my life on one option or another I'd always choose gearbox cooler. I know gearbox gets quite hot, but PAS. I guess I'll have to drive a trackday or two. But I can't see any logic in this. Ok, for you people that go to a track and trash your car for the whole day I can understand that it may be bad for the pump if it gets too hot. But if pump on a MAXI broke down couldn't they just replace it? Or is it too dangerous if it fails (but than again, odds for that are the same as tyre blowout)?
Swervin_Mervin
22-06-2008, 01:30
Yeah they could. But that's no use to the driver when he's halfway through a stage. :wink:
Bailey_1260
22-06-2008, 02:42
Yeah they could. But that's no use to the driver when he's halfway through a stage. :wink:
and its an arse of a job to do :P
robi1000
22-06-2008, 09:41
Yeah they could. But that's no use to the driver when he's halfway through a stage. :wink:
That's true. But then again, the same applies to the tyres... Not to mention it's easier to drive with broken PAS then with blown tyre. Well I guess it's pointless if I prove my point of view. They just made it that way and that's it.
Yeah they could. But that's no use to the driver when he's halfway through a stage. :wink:
and its an arse of a job to do :P
not on a maxi as its on the cam cover and a smaller pump maybe thats why it needs a cooler...
plus they had a gearbox cooler too for the oil but i believe this was water rather than air cooled
I might have to get something like that
the maxi exhaust runs over the rack like the 172 does, passing very close to the pipes!
on track yesterday i felt a change in the steering that I didnt like - the coupled with me snapping my dogbone mount bolt is why i retired before i broke something major! :D
how come u got trailed again n all matt lad on way home? got back okay i presume!!
pas cooler is there as a sensible upgrade, rally is hard on the steering, we've all seen incar vids of ragnotti, how much/quickly does he move the wheel? no suprise it heats quickly imo and to be safe rather than sorry its best to run a cooler. tyres are totally different, you cant run solid rubber ones for instance to stop blowouts, its not practical, but a little cooler on the pas is easy to add, no loss except maybe a tiny bit of weight and the benefits for making sure the pas works all the time far outweight that, so hence it was added
sent you a text earlier mate :D - but see here for why:
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30911
on the plus side, my average fuel economy for the FCS trip was epic! :D - only used half a tank ;)
:lol: i felt my pocket vibrate before and never checked, doh just got it! :oops:
yeah feel a bit better on the hung over ness today, but am heatstruck like a goodun, massively sunburnt and that made me woozy again :oops: :lol:
robi1000
23-06-2008, 15:04
BTW where do you people get all these schemes for Maxi? Dialogys?
i collected them all over four years but they came from renault....
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/img008.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/Renaultclio16SKitGroupeANoticedemon.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/File0004-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/Renaultclio16SGrAkit180chcatalogued.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/Renaultclio16SGroupeAcataloguede-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/Renaultclio16SGroupeNNoticedeprprat.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/page1-2.jpg
and a few others....getting them all online slowly...
robi1000
23-06-2008, 16:05
I didn't find anything in Mechanical/clio manuals. Are they somewhere else? I really want to have these because I'm rebuilding my car now and could use some ideas. :) If you've got anything on your PC please email them to me. I sent you my address the other day.
Cheers
there to big to e-mail but i can post them on a disc if you want...
apart from that i'm uploading onto clio16valver as quickly as i can.... :shock:
I have some for sale,that I photocopied etc etc :lol: :lol:
Sold a few but then no~one wanted them :cry: :cry:
Regards
Rod
simonr85
01-07-2008, 16:27
Dont forget there are quite alot uploaded here (http://maxi.36t.co.uk) - courtesy of Maxiboy
Dont forget there are quite alot uploaded here (http://maxi.36t.co.uk) - courtesy of Maxiboy
were? last i saw you was rehosting but never put a link up??
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