Bike Racing Cans

[J o n]

okay, was speaking to Ben about these briefly last night and want to know the advantages of these over a normal exhaust. Looking at them they are well cool and look far far less restrictive than the usual exhausts... will it be mega bum rape expensive tho? :?

[Zollo]

Not sure how much it would cost to get one welded on, but an after-market bike can usually costs around £200-£300.

How about a TVR exhaust? May be able to pick up a second hand one?

[Zollo]

Like this.....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/Zollo/05-exhaust.jpg

[J o n]

not keen on the exit on that, I'd want it to be something like the following

http://www.blueflameperformance.com/bike/images/evo_images/3.jpg

[2 live]

back pressure

can loose loadsa power fittin bike zorsts

[J o n]

Jon, would it lose back pressure if I dont have the cherry bomb type center tho, i'd be using 2.5 all the way to the can and obviously that would be the backbox in effect?

[BenR]

back pressure

can loose loadsa power fittin bike zorsts

Thats why you choose the correct one.

Obvioulsy one for a 400 or 600cc bike wont suit, but larger capacity bikes run bores upto 60+mm anyway, so backpressure isnt a problem.

[J o n]

so what do i need can wise then if i'm to get one, what's suitable? Will Blue Flame know, or will they try and sell me any old crap to get me money? lol

[KingStromba]

Whats the point in this? Not having a go just interested, never heard of this before.

[northy]

no they wont do that. they will match the backpressure mate.

Jonny - whats the idea bore and pressure spec jon needs....?

[J o n]

Whats the point in this? Not having a go just interested, never heard of this before.

just wanted to know more about them and if there are any benifits to be had as i've not seen em on a car before and was told by Ben about em. They look very smart anyway and sound the dogs i'm told.

[KingStromba]

Ferrari do an accoustically tuned exhaust for the F550 as an optional extra It was on the car at the Evo shoot (that eventually won). Probably the best thing ive ever heard in my life, except the sound of my own voice. :D

[J o n]

well i'd really like to know what these race can's sound like first, but if the performance is better than a std exhaust i'll be going for one of those... pending price obviously... saw some on the blue flame web site well in excess of £700 :O

[KingStromba]

Is this for sound or performance?

[2 live]

lol..bike cans are old hat on cars mate.......just check out most of the quad tailpipe conversions on the chavved sax s.......



another way of thinkin about it..for a pure free flowing zorst ......u want a 3" downpipe(x2) into a 6" centre section lol



get some back pressure in by dropping it down to 4" ctr section

[J o n]

performance really, mines ****ed, the baffles have gone completely...

i've never seen one on a car tbh Jon, I was speaking to Ben about getting a new exhaust the other night and he mentioned the racing cans as another option. Apparently they sound the dogs on valvers, so should sound just as good on the Willy.

that sounds a bit big :? I'd be Scooby style then, would need a 8" tail pipe! lol

[BenR]

Backpressure is something you really dont have to worry about, you wont suffer from a problem of having too little, unless they have the cr for months and really go to town.

Bike cans sound good but arent loud because they silence really well. THey dont provide anymore restriction than an other type of baffled straigh through silencer as there is nothing technically in the way, they are generally better made. I only have one centre box and a rear bike can of not huge proportions (silencing material) and it really isnt that loud at all, you can dome to listen to it sometime Jon.

Its just another way to do it, it wont loose performance, but it wont make you 'faster' compared to a typical exhaust.

What i like is that is understated and that a small tailpipe just kinks out from my bumper, nothing fancy.

[J o n]

deffo mate, when i next come over get yer valver out and take us for a blast in it dood!

[Andy]

went out for a drive last night mate vts went passed with 6 of these hanging out of his bumper sounded nice


but went no where

but they might be just cheap ones, sounds alot though mate just for a back box dunno will ask bro tonight .... :P

[POWARTEK]

If u want a racing system try looking into the OMP Group N/A stuff.

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Thats what I was going to get for mine, but needed an exhaust asap, which is why I got a Magnex. OMP arent available of the shelf so you need to wait about 4-5 weeks for one.

I really liked the group A OMP system on my old 205 and none of this poncy stainless steel malarky either. Just a black tailpipe.

[POWARTEK]

exactly mark..........RAW!

[BenR]

Had one, poo.

Fell apart in 2 months, welded, fell apart agai a month later, welded, then again........only had it a few months, thought **** this and got a stainless system.........the whole thing was rotten.

Sounds raspy as funk and didnt really do anything.

[2 live]

thing is wi mine....where the collectors are for the 4-1 is always fukkin splitting.....and this with std manifold.


if i go s/s there is a chance that the extra brittleness of teh s/s will cause more probs than it will solve.......hmmmmm

dont fancy bike cans....too much money.too much hassle........probs cause more probs again


£500 for a reno std manifold.....£300 for a s/s one........can get the std one welded up by anyone at any time...but finding a good tig welder thats cheap is hard.......fortunately my mate builds the d/h bikes for stevie peat.......at the orange factory bout 10 mile up the road...so for me a good tig welder isnt a prob........but for some i spose it could be a bit of of a prob


same with systems

go for a mild steel.get 1.2 years later(if that) have to get another......s/s fit and forget....if it breaks its under warrantty.......bike cans........cant say that.....personally id stick wi powerflow....but thats only cos i know the results theyv gained from mine n chris'........fastest williams and fastest cup.......cant argue wi their credentials

[BRUN]

so is it only me who thinks bike cans on cars look totally SHIT

[BenR]

Mine looks great as you cant see it, only the pipe exiting the bumper.

I got a spare willy manifold if you want jon.

And my can only cost me £60, harris racing.....pciked it up off a mate, and thought why not...worked out in the end.

[2 live]

cheers ben.....but ive got 2 willy manifolds n downpipes, and a valver manifold n downpipe..........they in the kitchen at mo...causin grief with the mrs. lol.. lads lovin it tho..somewhere to stick his hands n get filthy lmao

got me s/s manifold comin off mehdi tomoro, and may even invest in a devil one, for comparisons


at the mo tho.......i just break 1...............swap over to the spare, get the broken one welded for next time the 1 thats on breaks lol

[BenR]

lol, no problems!

jons got vids of the bike cans now, trying to get them hosted

[2 live]

like brun tho........im not a great fan of the bike cans....they looked ok 5 years ago...until all the saxo chavs started stickin 16 of em under the back bumper

nicest sounding system iv ever had tho......................was on the mini...maniflow big bore lcb, stright thru r5 s/s centre section, coupled to a scimiter gte s/s back box....sounded mint lol...oh how i wish i still had that lol

will be attempting to fit the willy engine into the mini next weekend lol.....shud be fun

[J o n]

lol, i only was thinking of one tho... dont wanna be greedy :lol:

[BenR]

true, but i've never seen anybody on the road with them.

I like the small exits, i hate stupid trim tailpipes, twin rounds, all that crap, or even normal magnex ones....look rubbish.

[J o n]

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=P1000590

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=P1000591

:D

[2 live]

lol.u wanna get out more mate lol

u also wanna try riding round doncaster/sheffied/london/guildford for a couple nights......then tell me uv never seen em on the road lol


must admit.im not a great fan of huge tailpipes meslf, i wanted a 3" round flush with bumper, but the bastards had jus welded the last one onto the previous customers car, so had to settle for the oval one...which isnt too bad tbh


altho im still fukkin waitin for wez to sort the vids out so i can see the huge flames its sposed to spit out lol :wink: :twisted:

[BenR]

get out?

whats 'out'?.....i dare not, the daleks might get me.

[2 live]

be thankful its only the daleks u have to worry about.....the smackheads thugs robbers and general wankers round here are enuff to worry about lol

[Martin]

Nice vids...