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cliokongen
13-04-2008, 21:06
I bought a set of Williams wishbones to complete my wide track setup.
Right: 60 01 025 842
Left: 60 01 025 841

The wishbone with the blue cap is the Williams one - the other is from a 19 16v.
The 19 16v part no. is 7700818053 - today replaced with 8200737112.

well...

I did the comparison between the two because it seems like the angle of the ball joint position is very much different from each other.

Has anybody come across this "problem" before?
Pictures?

Michael


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Cliokongen/100-0038_IMGSmall.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Cliokongen/100-0037_IMGSmall.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Cliokongen/100-0034_IMGSmall.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Cliokongen/100-0033_IMGSmall.jpg
northy
13-04-2008, 21:11
looks like the ball joint isnt positioned propally mate....williams also have a reinforcing plate on the top side too.
cliokongen
13-04-2008, 21:40
Positioning - that was my first thought as well.
But there really isn't much space for the ball joint to move in the holes.

aarrgghhh - annoying - help! :?

northy - look closer... :-)
It does have the reinforcing plate...

Michael
Justin..
13-04-2008, 22:00
dude


i noticed my wheels are not central to the arch, they seem more pushed back. this could be the reason as i have r19 16v wishbones
Justin..
13-04-2008, 22:02
actually after readin your post agian it would seem that mine wouldnt have that problem :?
stevie_b
13-04-2008, 22:32
I did the comparison between the two because it seems like the angle of the ball joint position is very much different from each other.


In your pictures aren't you comparing the nearside wishbone with the offside wishbone? You'd want pics off offside and offside together (or n/s and n/s) to be able to see if they are actually placed differently?
cliokongen
13-04-2008, 23:19
True Stevie...

The left (williams) wishbone had not arrived at the time of taking the pictures. When it did i compared it with the 19 16v one.
Unfortunately the result was the same.

Whats really strange is that the angle of the ball joint on the left vs. right williams wishbone is not the same. Really confusing.

Will get a pic tomorrow.

Michael
Purple
13-04-2008, 23:32
Just checked my own photos. The wishbone (with the slanted ball joint) is exactly the same as the ones I had fitted on my Williams. Works perfectly fine.
cliokongen
13-04-2008, 23:41
Excellent.... Thanks Purple :-)
Then i can proceed with fitting my powerflex bushes.

Michael
Purple
14-04-2008, 00:36
To be perfectly clear.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/w1.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/w2.jpg
Purple
14-04-2008, 00:41
Looks like you might be missing the bolt reinforcing plate.
But that's renault parts for you.
Purple
14-04-2008, 00:43
Oops, my bad! Just looked at your pics again under high gamma and saw that the plate is there.
cliokongen
14-04-2008, 08:15
Great - that's exactly what mine looks like :-)

Thank you so much!

Michael
MicKPM
14-04-2008, 13:06
The actual 19 16v/Clio Williams wishbone "Body" and main bushes are identical but for some reason the Clio is fitted with a strengthening plate. Why I don't know but I guess it has something to do with the Clio Williams ARB being thicker than the 19 16v (Again, Why I don't know). The lower balljoint is different between the two vehicles though which is why you're seeing the subtle difference in angles.
cliokongen
14-04-2008, 14:24
The actual 19 16v/Williams clio wishbone "Body" and main bushes are identical but for some reason the Clio is fitted with a strengthening plate. Why I don't know but I guess it has something to do with the Williams clio ARB being thicker than the 19 16v (Again, Why I don't know). The lower balljoint is different between the two vehicles though which is why you're seeing the subtle difference in angles.

I thought the wishbones from a 19 could be used when doing a wide track conversion to a valver.
The difference in angles must alter the wheelbase of the car then.

Michael
number1
14-04-2008, 21:08
Anti roll bars are the same thickness, i know this because im using a 19 16v anti roll bar and powerflex williams bushes, had to modify the arb slightly, took about 5mm off one side as it was slightly too long, again the 19 16v track is wider than that of the williams due to subframe width.

Dave
Justin..
15-04-2008, 01:44
i used a 19 16v arb but didnt have to modify it though :?
Neal 19 16v
19-04-2008, 19:59
The actual 19 16v/Williams clio wishbone "Body" and main bushes are identical but for some reason the Clio is fitted with a strengthening plate. Why I don't know but I guess it has something to do with the Williams clio ARB being thicker than the 19 16v (Again, Why I don't know). The lower balljoint is different between the two vehicles though which is why you're seeing the subtle difference in angles.

The 19 16V wishbones and balljoints are identical in every way to the williams ones.

Including the strengthening plate.

In fact, the ball joints are identical on ALL 19s, clios, 5s, mk1 meganes etc.