Rusty arch's fixed

[midge]

my friend works in a bodyshop on a kind of self employed basis, and so me and him took up the challenge of fixing my arch's, we did it in 3 days but we worked long hours, it would normaly take about a week i think, onto the pics -

Arch 1 -

rust cut out

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic1.jpg

plate welded

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic2.jpg

primered and masked for first base coat

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic4.jpg

re-flatened and masked for paint

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic5.jpg

ARCH 2 -

This arch wasnt realy rusty just had 1 or 2 small bubbles, but it had a crack in the paint all the way along where it had been repaired before so we decided we would just rub it down past the crack and paint it, so i was sat there rubbing it down on the crack when it would shift, so i kept going down, and thats when i realised it wasnt a crack in the paint, my heart sank when it became clear it was a crack in filler, 1cm worth across the WHOLE panel :( it had been bodged up with fibreglass and filler :(

The fibreglass/filler/metal falling apart

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic7.jpg

plate

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic8.jpg

primed/flatted/masked

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic10.jpg

painting

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic11.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/pic12.jpg

FINISHED

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/100_0890.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/100_0893.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/100_0894.jpg

colour match

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/52egdim/100_0892.jpg

Yes i know theres compound everywhere but its been raining and ive been far to tired to do anything about it yet, ill give it all a good clean tommorrow, my friend can do this work on anyones car, he said a similar job for members off this forum will cost £200 all in, he will need the car for approx 1 week, if your interested, fire me a pm, but no time wasters please!!

[1fast6]

Did you not blend the door?

[midge]

in the pic where its falling apart you can see the ridge's in the filler :(

[midge]

why would you need to blend the door?

[richy]

nice work, ive gotta chop 1 of my archs back and weld a new section in too!

[Wobba]

Big improvement!

Mine need doing too :(

[eternalife]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

[lewis_willy2]

apparently black doesnt need blending

[Allan]

you can actualy blend any colour on its own panel if you have a decent area to work with, you just need to keep adding more clear to it and thinning it down, keep reducing the colour it will give a gradiant and match by the time you meet the other panel ;D

[MatBrown]

you can actualy blend any colour on its own panel if you have a decent area to work with, you just need to keep adding more clear to it and thinning it down, keep reducing the colour it will give a gradiant and match by the time you meet the other panel ;D

Yes, but at the bottom of the passenger side there is no room to do this as the primer goes right up to the door.


Mat.

[midge]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

so you blend the door, then your need to blend the wing, then the bonnet then the bumper e.t.c e.t.c.

[MatBrown]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

so you blend the door, then your need to blend the wing, then the bonnet then the bumper e.t.c e.t.c.

Not quite.


Mat.

[rob-legend]

my friend can do this work on anyones car, he said a similar job for members off this forum will cost £200 all in, he will need the car for approx 1 week, if your interested, fire me a pm, but no time wasters please!!

where abouts dya live? 8)

[midge]

if your spraying the whole panel you wont need to blend anything, the rest should be the same colour, the only part you need to blend is on the panel your spraying, in this case up above the door.
In this situation why would you even touch the door?

- the door is fresh and has been compounded, the rest of the car hasnt, i will pc it next week.

[eternalife]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

so you blend the door, then your need to blend the wing, then the bonnet then the bumper e.t.c e.t.c.

You blend the region of the door adjacent to the rear quarter to the rear quarter.
The part of the door which is near the wing remains relatively untouched.
The door itself will be two slightly different colours/shades as it will be blended from the colour of the front wing and the new rear quarter.

If done by someone who is good, the blending across the door will be un noticable to the majority.

Hence the word BLEND - Definition: Graduated shades that progress smoothly from one color to another are called a blend. The colors blend together gradually.

[Daz.]

My door wasn't touched and I go to a VERY good bodyshop - I can't tell where it starts and where it finishes - also 449 is a pig to match.

[midge]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

so you blend the door, then your need to blend the wing, then the bonnet then the bumper e.t.c e.t.c.

You blend the region of the door adjacent to the rear quarter to the rear quarter.
The part of the door which is near the wing remains relatively untouched.
The door itself will be two slightly different colours/shades as it will be blended from the colour of the front wing and the new rear quarter.

If done by someone who is good, the blending across the door will be un noticable to the majority.

Hence the word BLEND - Definition: Graduated shades that progress smoothly from one color to another are called a blend. The colors blend together gradually.

There would be no point in painting a panel which doesnt need painting, what your saying is stupid, if you get your bonnet painted you need to blend everything around it? not if you've used the right colour.
Any colour mismatch would be due to Fresh paint against old paint, a polish would sort this fine.

[eternalife]

why would you need to blend the door?

To avoid paint mismatch between panels - I am not sure if black shows it up as much as other colours do (Red is a complete nightmare).

so you blend the door, then your need to blend the wing, then the bonnet then the bumper e.t.c e.t.c.

You blend the region of the door adjacent to the rear quarter to the rear quarter.
The part of the door which is near the wing remains relatively untouched.
The door itself will be two slightly different colours/shades as it will be blended from the colour of the front wing and the new rear quarter.

If done by someone who is good, the blending across the door will be un noticable to the majority.

Hence the word BLEND - Definition: Graduated shades that progress smoothly from one color to another are called a blend. The colors blend together gradually.

There would be no point in painting a panel which doesnt need painting, what your saying is stupid, if you get your bonnet painted you need to blend everything around it? not if you've used the right colour.
Any colour mismatch would be due to Fresh paint against old paint, a polish would sort this fine.

This is the method used by all the Body shops I have ever been to - respectable body shops.
There are multiple mixes of paints, and various other conditions which effect. There are a number of different shades of 449.
Clear example of same colour and the possibility of paint mismatch.

A polish will make a paint mismatch less visible.

By your very use of the word 'blend' you clearly have not grasped what this word actually means (see highlighted statement above).
You asked a question (albeit possibly rhetorical in nature) - i answered, get over it.

[AndyFielder]

willys at dawn!

[samboRT]

To get a good match you need to blend the colour... Black is one of the trickiest colours to match IMO, at night under yellow streetlights you can see the slightest imperfections and the vary in colour depth. Looks like a good enough job, but masking off and painting a single panel is risky!!

Ideally the paint should be blended with the doors/boot lid to reduce the paint matching nightmares!!!!!

Looks minty mint the car does though!

:D

[midge]

see the pic above with the boot and panel next to each other.

[jay s]

all that needs to be done to midges car is a good pc on the parts that have'nt been sprayed, this will take a small layer of the clearcoat off and paint underneith will look as new. when i had my bonnet sprayed i had no other panels blended only gave the car a pc the week earlier. Colour match is 100% am im very very fussy when it comes to colour matches etc

[stevie_b]

By the way, looks like your mate did a good job on those Superleggeras midge - they look great now!

[kj16v]

Hey, several arguments ago someone asked whereabouts your friend is! :P

[rob-legend]

yup 8) cheers matey haha.

[midge]

Ewell is where the work shop is, he lives in croydon.

The legs were done by a friend who does mobile wheel refurbs.

[titcharoony]

how much did they guy in ewell charge to sort both arches?

[MatBrown]

how much did they guy in ewell charge to sort both arches?

Open your eyes! :wink:


my friend can do this work on anyones car, he said a similar job for members off this forum will cost £200 all in, he will need the car for approx 1 week, if your interested, fire me a pm, but no time wasters please!!


Mat.

[titcharoony]

does he have an oven? if not i wudnt expect it to be brilliant

[Daz.]

My car wouldn't fit in my oven - I had to use a hairdryer.

[MatBrown]

My car wouldn't fit in my oven - I had to use a hairdryer.

I find the mircowave quicker. :P


Mat.

[titcharoony]

har har i wud only consider bodywork with someone who used an oven tho

[MatBrown]

Why's that?
The only thing the oven does is cure the paint quicker.


Mat.

[AndyFielder]

thats what i though!

[Daz.]

Its to keep his ass warm while they're chasing all the rust round his car :wink: