PTFE Inlet and Throttle Body Gaskets - 16v

[hill_power_clio]

Hi All;

As you may have seen in the Performance Tuning section I am now in a position to offer PTFE Gaskets, both inlet manifold and throttle body. These gaskets act as a heat barrier (due to the properties of PTFE) between firstly the head and the inlet manifold, meaning there is a massive reduction in heat to the inlet thus reducing intake temperatures.
The gasket between the manifold and throttle body acts in the same way but extends this to the very opening of the induction to keep temps as low as possible from the very start.

Please see this thread for full details....

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24964

As these gaskets are lazer machined on a C02 bed as a direct copy of the OE part they provide 100% quality. Photos on the above link speak for themselves.

Prices are as follows:

3mm PTFE Inlet Manifold Gasket - £24 posted
3mm PFFE Throttle Body Gasket - £7.50 posted
3mm PTFE Mani and T.Body Gaskets - £30 posted

Paypal preferred.

Please PM me if you are interested and I will sort from there!

Many Thanks

Any problems then please let me know.

[hill_power_clio]

Is nobody interesterd in these now having gone to all the effort to get them made up properly?!

[AndyFielder]

they seem very expensive to me.

[Scougar]

Think that's a good price for both of them to be honest.

You guys would pay more on a performance filter and clear indicators!

Matthew

[Wobba]

I might be interested, but I have to check my finances after payday next week. So many bills and the car blowing up have cost me £££ this month!

[Justin..]

PM'd out of guilt :shock:














:P

[hill_power_clio]

Sorry lads dont mean to lay on any guilt trip - just there was a lot of interest and now having made them up it seems nobody wants one that is all - should have got orders in advance - my bad!

People on the 106 rallye register are paying 30quid just for the manifold gasket and thats on the basis of 25 people buying them!

If you put into consideration the following:

Artwork @ £25.00 - per drawing
Set-up @ £15.00 - per batch
Each @ £60 per hour - thats £1 per min.


Bearing in mind a clio 16v inlet manifold gasket takes ten minutes to cut with a lazer - due to its high temp properties, that makes it pretty good value!

Plus postage and packaging and paypal fees and so on they are infact very good value!!

[Justin..]

yeah theyre good so long as youre not makin a loss sellin them

[hill_power_clio]

wont make a loss as long as I can shift them all - have whacked one on ebay now to try and help things along!

[Justin..]

cool


i look forward to recieving mine :D

[Wobba]

As I said, I have to think on it, and wait for payday. I spent loads on car this month, and may have to again this month!

[u33db]

Thats not a bad price TBH for the TB one - reno are charging me 4.50ish for a std one!

[hill_power_clio]

tbh its a very good price on both.... any more takers?

have plenty of the throttle body ones which is what a 5minute job to change...!

[Neepdocker]

Bought a pair of these gaskets on E-Bay.Brilliant quality and fast delivery.

Dont moan about the price back the guy up and buy them.

[hill_power_clio]

Neepdocker - thanks very much mate. Glad you approve of the quality and nice to see good feedback!!

Nobody was buying off here so I put them on ebay and sold the only ones I had almost instantly when I put them on!

I am all sold out now but am getting some more made up now!

Cheers!!

[paush]

Damn I was too slow on that one :( Serves me right for not coming on here enough :roll:

Put me down for a full set on the next batch please, i'll even pay up front now if you like to show i'm commited lol

[paush]

Whoops should of read that clearer sorry, assume they are for the 2.0 too?

[hill_power_clio]

yeah no reason why they won't fit 2.0..

no problem will contact you on next batch - got a list accumalating now!

[paush]

Good stuff cheers

[simonr85]

will these give any performance increase?

[hill_power_clio]

Yes mate thats the idea...

Obviously the colder the air going into the engine the better the combustion....

...because there is a lot less heat transfer to the inlet manifold / throttle body from the head because there is a heat resistant barrier it means intake temps are less.

The inlet manifold gasket gives the biggest difference with the throttle body gasket just being seen as a may as well addition though will give some difference as again is another heat barrier - the colder the air at the very entry point the better. The gaskets are reuseable and as the OE throttle body gasket from Renault is £4.50ish anyway and isn't reuseable it is a lot better - if any its an investment lol.

Hondata are famous for making just throttle body gaskets for the civic type-rs so must be worth doing as this is one of the first mods done by everyone on the CTR (civic) forum.

The t.body gasket is a very easy mod to do as well - I'd estimate if you know what you are doing 5-10mins to change. For your first time up to half hour!

Tbh the manifold one isn't a massive task - easily done in half a day can just be a bit fiddily, esp if its your first time - like most things :wink:

I'd personally recommend using these alongside a cold air feed (if you haven't got one already). Together should give a significant difference in performance and will help with heat soak - as you know valver bays can get very warm!

Also they look cleaner :D

[simonr85]

cheers for the reply mate

will invest in a set of both next thurs if you still have them!

is it a noticable increase?

[hill_power_clio]

no problem...

FOR YOU ALL - I HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO THE LAZER CUTTERS AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE CUTTING ANOTHER BATCH EARLY NEXT WEEK.

Well we fitted one to a friends valver and he said he noticed a big difference - obviously you won't notice any difference at first but after driving for say 5mins when everything is heated up thats when the difference comes in.

For what they cost you won't see much more of a gain for the pound. :D

[hill_power_clio]

simonr85, paush and Wobba - you all have PMs.

ALL - These gaskets will be available again as of tomorrow. If they are anything like the lost batch probably won't last too long!

I have x8 sets coming, but about x5 have their names down but pending payment all are available.

Thanks

[cliokiz]

PM'd

[hill_power_clio]

you have reply mate

[broken willy]

anybody whos fitted 1 got any feedback on performance?

[davem]

any left will have a set if you have, only problem is i dont have paypal so can i send a cheque/postal order pm me address if you can thanks,

[hill_power_clio]

x3 sets left - one awaiting payment clear from someone on the forum and another set on ebay... so if you want the last set davem then drop me a PM and we will sort out payment and delivery details. postal order or pref cash sent recorded/special delivery would be ideal.

[hill_power_clio]

All sets now sold... HOWEVER I can get more made up if anyone wants any.

Sure there will be a fair bit of feedback to come shortly from the peeps who have purchased.

Cheers.

[cliokiz]

Received mine today, cheers for the quick delivery!

Quality seems spot on so far, will post up some feedback once i've put them on the engine and got the engine in the car and got the car on the road... :oops:

[hill_power_clio]

no problem mate - all part of the service! lol

[asfb2005]

Mine arrived today to, look excellent. Will be fitting Friday so i'll let you know how it goes.

How easy is it to fit the inlet gasket?

[cliokiz]

Fitted my inlet gasket tonight.

Piece of piss to fit if the engine is out, obviously a bit more challenging if the engine is in the bay.

The only thing i found was it makes things a little bit more exciting when lining up the bolts on the black bracket on the edge of the inlet manifold. Had to use some forceful tactics to get the two top bolts in, the bottom two still lined up OK though.

Think it might make the alt belt a tiny bit tighter as well but don't suppose this will make much difference.

Can't comment on performance as the engine isn't in the car yet.

[hill_power_clio]

You can loosen the alternator belt if it becomes too tight though we never had this problem when fitting.

The bolt holes are in the exact place as a std inlet manifold gasket - its an exact CAD copy so would be just as difficult with an OE item - the thickness shouldn't make any difference to this.

Thanks

[cliokiz]

I meant the bolts on the black bracket, as the inlet manifold is pushed out slightly further so they're just a bit more tricky to line up.

Don't get me wrong, hasn't caused any issues, it all went back together, couple of the bolts were tight though if that makes sense.

[hill_power_clio]

Excellent! as long as there are no issues thats what matters!

Going to say we had no fitting issues when we fitted 3mm one on my mates at all - was getting slightly worried then.

Let us know what cooling difference it makes - people on cliosport seem to be seeing good results on the 172/182.

[hill_power_clio]

HAS EVERYONE WHO ORDERED THEM REC'D NOW - SHOULD HAVE DONE BY TUESDAY...

[Oszy]

Recived the gasket by post in HUNGARY, and in perfect condition!
no damage could happend in the strong packaging. Thanks Chris, I will let you know my experiences soon 8)

[hill_power_clio]

no problem mate!

If anybody else wants a gasket please let me know via PM...

Thanks

[hill_power_clio]

Still available... BUMP

[hill_power_clio]

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[hill_power_clio]

to the top ^ :D

[hill_power_clio]

^^^

[hill_power_clio]

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[hill_power_clio]

These are still available for anyone else interested - still getting a lot of good reviews!

[d-diddy]

send me payment details mate as i would like a full set.

plus let me know where you are in notts as i may come and pick it up if your local enough.

[mossyv6]

Any chance of an inlet mani gasket on its own as i bought a throttle body gasket from your ebay account a couple of months ago?

Thanks

Mossy

[hill_power_clio]

Still available... bump

either gasket can be bought on its own of course

cheers

[hill_power_clio]

bump

[Winston]

Do me a mega deal on both? because its me :oops:

[16v_paddy]

Do me a mega deal on both? because its me :oops:

What sort of mega deal u after winston??? :lol:

I'll ask 4 ya m8, he's my housemate & he won't be on here till later tonight :wink:

[Rexy]

will these fit a williams, I persume they would unless the heads etc differe dramtically? ? ?

[Justin..]

will fit fine

[Rexy]

good good, :D I'll get a set ordered next weekend once i get paid. :D

[hill_power_clio]

Winston mate - you have PM

[hill_power_clio]

Rexy - drop me a PM when you get paid and I will give you payment details. Got a set here which I will keep to one side for you.

Free bump

[Rexy]

Cambelt has snapped on my willy mate, so.... I need to get that sorted before i fork out for some new gaskets :'(

I have the money sat here, but i have no idea what the rebuild is going to cost as yet until the head comes off. I shall keep you posted :D

[hill_power_clio]

ok let me know.

Winston - you too let me know via PM matey

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[hill_power_clio]

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[hill_power_clio]

Rexy - you have PM.

Winston - Nice one mate; yours should be posted Monday, sat here packaged up ready to go.

Cheers :D

[hill_power_clio]

bump for xmas orders !

[Rexy]

got mine the other day, Oh was ment to ask for pressure sale discount lol for say "rexy's having a set" to winston pmsl

I'll get mine fitted after donnington :D

[hill_power_clio]

lol bump!

[Yanoo_]

PM'd :wink:

[hill_power_clio]

You have reply mate! :D

[Tullyvernon]

Iv orderd a set i the group buy along with matched inlets on cs, so more than likely will be looking some for the williams after!

[hill_power_clio]

no problem mate - just let me know :)

[broken willy]

anyone who's fitted got feedback on performance yet??

[Allan]

I have one fiited on my valver, but only done about 3 miles since i fitted it.
so couldn't really tell you if there has been an increase. but they fit fine and are good quality.

[hill_power_clio]

bump

coming very soon - megane inlet gaskets :D

[hill_power_clio]

Megane gaskets: http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34578

Free bump :D

[c110mk]

pm'd :D

[cliokiz]

Suggestion..

How about making a PTFE cam cover gasket?

Perhaps not 3mm, maybe 1/2mm, but at least these wouldn't perish all the time causing the oil to spill over into the spark plug wells, plus makes them re-usable every time you whip the cover off?

[hill_power_clio]

Can do but a hell of a lot of wasted material from my point of view - not a problem to do just means relative expense to you kind people!

I'd recommend 1mm not 0.5mm.

Do you want me to work out a price?

Will obviously need to get a gasket, then get it drawn up and got someone to test it to make sure it doesn't leak.

[cliokiz]

I think it'd be a worthwhile investment, as the cam cover gaskets seem to deteriorate quite quickly and i'm sick of them leaking all the time.

So, if you can develop one, which is an exact fit on the head (always find the gaskets are a bit out of shape), and doesn't leak, and doesn't cause any problems with the .5mm of extra height, i'd definately be up for one.

If it saves oil drowning my spark plugs then it's gotta be worthwhile for everyone.

[16v_paddy]

I've compared the thickness of the std gasket with a 1mm 197 gasket and they're exactly the same

If he get's 1 made up we'll try it on mine & see if it's any good :wink:

[cliokiz]

Get it done.

I could do with one for my engine build.

[hill_power_clio]

I was thinking potentially cork instead? Shall we start a fresh discussion in performance tuning as to not clog up the 'for sale' thread?

[hill_power_clio]

sod it - bumps the thread anyway lol

just working out a price for the gasket - i take it all the internal holes need to be there? cutting would be a doddle without having to do them. Will have to stick to PTFE for now as cork is not nice to work with on a lazer lol

[cliokiz]

I'd prefer a bish bash bosh approach rather than having to cut it myself.

I'm just fed up of standard gaskets being misfigured and it being a bit of an arse to get them to sit properly and line up with the bolts.

Would be great to have a re-usable gasket that was a perfect fit that stopped the cam cover leaking for good. Providing PTFE gives a good seal, which i think it does, as it seals the TB and Inlet well enough.

[hill_power_clio]

Right I can do this but it is going to be expensive due to the amount of cutting and material used. It is literally like twice the size if not bigger of an inlet gasket - bearing in mind these are £25ish - fair enough they are 3mm but here we will also have a lot of lazer time for all the internal cutting, plus wasted material which I have no use for.

Also a lot of drawing up to do in CAD - I reckon we are looking at £50-60 for the gasket.

Is this going to be of any interest? If so I wil get on drawing it up ASAP.

[hill_power_clio]

???

[cliokiz]

Sounds like they're going to be a bit too expensive to produce :(

Is there nothing you can do to reduce costs?

[16v_paddy]

Probably not since so much material will be wasted, the wasted material can't even be used to make anything else as they'll be too small - even for megane throttle body gaskets

[thaijedi]

could i have a set please.. just read bout them and sounds good.

had my williams2 on the rollers to day and made 177.6 BHP but was told more cold air would help.. same old same old.

This is the first i've herd of these and im intrested :D :D

[hill_power_clio]

thaijedi you have PM mate

RE: cam cover gaskets. They are going to be around the £50 mark - as paddy says there is a lot of wasted material here and it is a big gasket.

I am getting it drawn up at the moment so we will have a more definite price available soon. End of the day you pay for what you get. Could do a cardboard one for next to nothing - you can see why Renault didn't make one out of anything expensive!

Will come back with a definite price.

[hill_power_clio]

bump for inlet gaskets - will make a for sale thread once cam cover gasket is sorted following trial

[thaijedi]

all good thanks buddy they look wicked and cant wait to goethem on.

Do you do any for the 5 GGT..?

[hill_power_clio]

no - apparently the inlet shares the same gasket as the exhaust so basically would be way to hot IMO.

[hill_power_clio]

Looks like PTFE cam cover gasket could be a little cheaper than first expected. Still developing the drawing, then will trial on paddys car to let you know it does the job. Fingers crossed!

[Wobba]

Looks like PTFE cam cover gasket could be a little cheaper than first expected. Still developing the drawing, then will trial on paddys car to let you know it does the job. Fingers crossed!

Keep us informed, I am still interested in one and a TB gasket. The idea of a reuseable gasket is appealing. Cheers!

[hill_power_clio]

Now ready! http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36134

All in one price - inlet gasket set (manifold and t.body) plus cam cover gasket - £60 posted.

[summeh]

im interested in a manifold gasket, but would want it made in 5 or 6mm (preferably) PTFE. can you do this?

I can supply the pfte sheet if that helps.

[hill_power_clio]

Can do in 5mm mate but obviously price will go up - drop me a PM to arrange details. Got 5mm material in stock.

[hill_power_clio]

Right - material and additional lazer time means 5mm price gasket will be £36 via paypal or £35 via paypal personal.

let me know chap

[hill_power_clio]

:arrow:

[mossyv6]

PM'd :D

[hill_power_clio]

you should have by now mate :D

[mossyv6]

^^^ Yeah got them this morning, excellent quality, thanks.

[hill_power_clio]

Superb... sunny day bump

[hill_power_clio]

UP we go

[hill_power_clio]

UP we go

[Lukas805]

Any of these left? im keen to get my hands on these beautys. I would like a whole set cheers

[hill_power_clio]

Of course mate - drop me a PM and I will send you paypal details.
Should be with you within a couple of days.

Do you want a full set including cam cover gasket as well?

[hill_power_clio]

^^^