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1995clio16v
01-01-2008, 18:14
Right, pretty sure it getting worse.

At around 70/80mph there is loads of play, id say boardering on the dangerous side.

Anything above that is a bit scary, the car doesnt feel safe. Hard to explain. Sound familiar?

Doesnt feel too bad on play with the steering wheel when stationary.

Any advice?

New one? Welded?

Cheers
:evil:

Lunner
01-01-2008, 18:25
I'd say its your track rods or ends

Bailey_1260
01-01-2008, 19:00
I'd say its your track rods or ends

x 2

sounds like a balancing problem as it only occurs with speed.

1995clio16v
01-01-2008, 19:12
I'd say its your track rods or ends

x 2

sounds like a balancing problem as it only occurs with speed.

Ok, good stuff.

What makes you say these two points?

What are symptoms of goosed steering rack?

Lunner
01-01-2008, 19:49
Because those where my symptoms, at motorways speeds it was really dodgy, car would wander all over the lane of its own accord, when it was stationary there seemed to be no play.

Once the car was in the air you could tell easily there was play.

Disagree with the balancing comment, that would cause vibration at certain speeds, not play in the steering

1995clio16v
01-01-2008, 20:00
ok, so play in track rods or ends?

Do i check those by putting the wheels straight and waggling from side to side and if theres play they need replacing?

Lunner
01-01-2008, 20:13
specifically check these by getting under the car, unbolting them from the hub, and seeing if there is any play,m it will only be fractional, but fractional at 70 makes a big difference.

Dunno if there is an easier way to specifically check these

Twincam
02-01-2008, 00:13
Depending on how badly worn they are you can jack the car up leaving the wheel on then feel for play by wobbling (technical term :D ) back and forth

white16valver
02-01-2008, 13:44
Isn't that only good for checking the bearings though??

Lunner
02-01-2008, 15:44
No, bearings will be movement up and down as well as side to side and a rumbling noise when wheel is spun

LBJ is movement top and bottom as above.

steering is side to side, but as above you'll only notice the movement is its really badley ****ed, couldn't notice any movement on mine unless you moved the arm after it was disconnnected from the hub, and even then it was only a VERY smal amount of movement

white16valver
02-01-2008, 16:06
Ahhh, I seee... thanks for the info 8)

Better stop putting it off and get underneath mine and poke around :roll: lol

katbloke
02-01-2008, 20:05
No ones mentioned column wear?

105epwr
02-01-2008, 20:14
just wot i was thinking,is the steering uj near the pedals ok?

jamesy
02-01-2008, 20:31
just in the process of changing my rack,wot a bastard of a job,its to cold to go back out there at the mo tho!

katbloke
02-01-2008, 21:59
just in the process of changing my rack,wot a B**t**d of a job,its to cold to go back out there at the mo tho!

Rack or column?

jamesy
03-01-2008, 09:36
rack,done the colum a few months ago.

kundi13
07-01-2008, 18:42
mines playing up aswell...the steering wheel feels loose with less control and when im hitting say 60mph the steering wheel shakes abit... what could that be...?

Bailey_1260
07-01-2008, 19:15
Because those where my symptoms, at motorways speeds it was really dodgy, car would wander all over the lane of its own accord, when it was stationary there seemed to be no play.

Once the car was in the air you could tell easily there was play.

Disagree with the balancing comment, that would cause vibration at certain speeds, not play in the steering

:oops: re reading this post ive realised i but balancing when i obviously meant to say tracking. lol

1995clio16v
07-01-2008, 22:24
mines playing up aswell...the steering wheel feels loose with less control and when im hitting say 60mph the steering wheel shakes abit... what could that be...?


Exactly as per mine. Dare not go above 70mph!! :shock:

1995clio16v
07-01-2008, 22:30
Because those where my symptoms, at motorways speeds it was really dodgy, car would wander all over the lane of its own accord, when it was stationary there seemed to be no play.

Once the car was in the air you could tell easily there was play.

Disagree with the balancing comment, that would cause vibration at certain speeds, not play in the steering

:oops: re reading this post ive realised i but balancing when i obviously meant to say tracking. lol

Does any MOT type garage have the facility for sorting the tracking bailey?? Might sound a daft question!!

Ive never had any car thats had the tracking thats needed doing.

Me step dad reckons its more likely the rack than the track rods, but yet to find out.

Gonna take it into me man at the weekend and get it up on the lift. Whats the classic for ****ed rack? Is it something you can see visually?

Ill check the track rods 1st tho!!

:o

Lunner
07-01-2008, 22:31
well check rods and check column, and if they are ok then its either the rod ends of the rack

Lunner
07-01-2008, 22:44
well check rods and check column, and if they are ok then its either the rod ends or the rack

Bailey_1260
07-01-2008, 23:00
Does any MOT type garage have the facility for sorting the tracking bailey?? Might sound a daft question!!



I'v asked dafter. lol,

Most will, as long as they have a tyre bay they should be able to do your geometry and or tell you if your rack or steering UJ is gone.