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1995clio16v
28-11-2007, 00:11
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/300472.htm

sure ive seen this on here/owner at somepoint?

This a straight forward conversion or very tricky?

MAXIBOY
28-11-2007, 00:22
yes mate its belongs to ........ sorry can,t remember

1995clio16v
28-11-2007, 00:30
yes mate its belongs to ........ sorry can,t remember

Its the wheels that seem to ring bells, not really interested in who's it was tbh but more the spec.

Interesting conversion.

This conversion has confused me even more now, as i am wanting to do something with mine, but not sure what yet!

Your comment has sent my head spinning maxi!

MatBrown
28-11-2007, 00:30
Danlp6 or something like that.


Mat.

DaveH
28-11-2007, 00:48
I think mats right he's on cliosport iirc remember reading about it and he said it was quite an easy conversion but iirc had lots of problems ECU/immobiliser wise due to the newer models using decoder rings etc- best bet is aftermarket management/loom.

MAXIBOY
28-11-2007, 02:29
yes mate its belongs to ........ sorry can,t remember

Its the wheels that seem to ring bells, not really interested in who's it was tbh but more the spec.

Interesting conversion.

This conversion has confused me even more now, as i am wanting to do something with mine, but not sure what yet!

Your comment has sent my head spinning maxi!

theres a couple of guys on clio 16valver doing this conversion at the moment. ask on there for details mate. lots of info available.

Matty86
28-11-2007, 02:43
lots of people doing the conversion atm

that one is 'Dan' 's one on clio16valver (Danlp6 on cliosport)

Matty86
28-11-2007, 02:44
oh, been in it on an airfield day (the one pictured)

bloody rapid

geesus
28-11-2007, 11:24
i'm doing it aswell

my thread is in the projects section :D

stew
28-11-2007, 12:15
interesting conversion, but looking at his thread on cliosport, it looks like its been a bit of a bodge.

been done on a budget, so means corners have been cut and some parts look questionable i.e downpipe is half 172 and half valver welded together.

looking foward to see some more of these conversions from the likes of geesus.

:twisted:

schakal
28-11-2007, 12:34
have not this danlp6 dude mess a few people
about selling dodgy stuff etc in the past ??? :roll:

drsmith1979
28-11-2007, 14:30
i cant see why you would put the 172 engine in the clio, simply tune a willy engine with head work and cams and surely it will be cheaper and better?

schakal
28-11-2007, 14:54
Your chance to own one of the quickest N/A mk1 clios in the UK! I carried out the engine conversion myself(im an ex-renault specialist mechanic).

that made me chuckle :lol:
the guy is 18year old or something like that but forget about
being a renault mechanic or an enthusiast
he is allready an "ex-renault specialist" :shock:

:lol:

geesus
28-11-2007, 15:01
well mine started out as a budget track car but it has sort of spiralled out of control lol

the downpipe is one of my next jobs to do, any good welders out there who can make me one up on site? :roll:

drsmith1979 - people have said the same, alot of it for me came down to age, finding a low mileage willy lump is getting very difficult, and if you do find one you'll pay through the nose for it!

white16valver
28-11-2007, 15:05
i cant see why you would put the 17poo engine in the clio, simply tune a willy engine with head work and cams and surely it will be cheaper and better?
Greater power but standard therefore more reliable?

I know that's my main reason for not modding mine from standard - I can cope with niggly things that need fixing once in a while that you can drive round, but you can't drive a car that doesn't go! lol (I loved the Escort RST but it was always poorly :()

Martin
28-11-2007, 15:43
Calculated stats:
Power to weight: 232bhp/tonne(Skyline R34 gtr is only 200bhp/tonne!)
0-60 5.22sec
0-100 12.99sec
drag strip 1/4mile - 13.4

Hmmm, I smell something....

schakal
28-11-2007, 15:56
The reason the car is CAT exempt is because the engine series was never fitted to these cars from the factory

N reg(1996/97) clios were all fitted with a cat from the factory
for sure :wink:

BS it is indeed :?

Matty86
28-11-2007, 18:24
I know Dan

I've been in this car

the power is not unsual with the mods and it has been weighed so the calculated bhp/ton is accurate

as for the downpipe, how else would you make one?


and he used to work at a renault specialist (where I took my car) so that is true as well

stevie_b
28-11-2007, 18:24
N reg(1996/97) clios were all fitted with a cat from the factory
for sure :wink:


Yes, they were indeed. But I thought that if a car was fitted with an engine that was never originally on the car, and therefore target CO2 emissions have not been published, then rather than the tester going with the CO2 table for that model they go with a more general emissions target that it should easily pass without a cat anyway?

I wonder whether the V5 engine number is now the 172 one though, as I'd think you'd need this updated before you could persuade an MOT man to test it as such?

alex_blue16v
29-11-2007, 09:40
The reason the car is CAT exempt is because the engine series was never fitted to these cars from the factory

I think hes saying its exempt because the f4r series was never fitted to valvers etc in the factory.

1995clio16v
29-11-2007, 10:38
The reason the car is CAT exempt is because the engine series was never fitted to these cars from the factory

I think hes saying its exempt because the f4r series was never fitted to valvers etc in the factory.

Cheers for all your responses. I do think if this is for sale £2700k then whats the point of doing something like this conversion, might as well buy the car, could prob get it for £2.5k. This must cost ££££££££'s

So your quote above mate, i dont have a clue whther your accurate (does seem logical from the guys quote), you could therefore say that a 16v with a williams engine with everything 'unstandard' could be classed as cat exempt due to it not being fitted from the factory as standard tackle?

Just a thought?

Maybe?

stevie_b
29-11-2007, 13:14
So your quote above mate, i dont have a clue whther your accurate (does seem logical from the guys quote), you could therefore say that a 16v with a williams engine with everything 'unstandard' could be classed as cat exempt due to it not being fitted from the factory as standard tackle?

Just a thought?

Maybe?

Indeed. That is exactly what I do. Don't know if it is just my MOT man but I've not had to put a cat on my car to get it through for years.

AndyFielder
29-11-2007, 13:27
i like the sound of this!

geesus
29-11-2007, 14:03
Cheers for all your responses. I do think if this is for sale £2700k then whats the point of doing something like this conversion, might as well buy the car, could prob get it for £2.5k. This must cost ££££££££'s

not if you do the work yourself, if you were to pay someone to fit it then yes it would cost a fair bit more, but then half the fun is actually doing the work yourself

1995clio16v
29-11-2007, 14:33
Cheers for all your responses. I do think if this is for sale £2700k then whats the point of doing something like this conversion, might as well buy the car, could prob get it for £2.5k. This must cost ££££££££'s

not if you do the work yourself, if you were to pay someone to fit it then yes it would cost a fair bit more, but then half the fun is actually doing the work yourself

I agree, but its a serious time consuming thing.

Plus i suppose theres the immense satisfaction of doing it urself!

1995clio16v
29-11-2007, 14:35
i like the sound of this!

If it does turn out to be true then where do they draw the line?

Does a filter, re-chip, performance suspension etc, come it to it then.

It would be interesting to know if it is true, but surely not?

AndyFielder
29-11-2007, 14:51
no... as its the same engine!

geesus
29-11-2007, 15:20
Cheers for all your responses. I do think if this is for sale £2700k then whats the point of doing something like this conversion, might as well buy the car, could prob get it for £2.5k. This must cost ££££££££'s

not if you do the work yourself, if you were to pay someone to fit it then yes it would cost a fair bit more, but then half the fun is actually doing the work yourself

I agree, but its a serious time consuming thing.

Plus i suppose theres the immense satisfaction of doing it urself!

it is time consuming, but it beats being bored lol

bill.
29-11-2007, 15:31
I reckon fair play to the fella for doing the conversion and being different, and i bet its a quick little ****er! :twisted: well done!

1995clio16v
29-11-2007, 15:51
no... as its the same engine!

Good point, hadnt thought of that one!!

:oops:

dan-hipgrave
29-11-2007, 19:03
If it does turn out to be true

Yes i can confirm this is true and its not just Stevie B's MOT man - mine said exactly the same thing about my old Hybrid. Doesnt need to pass strict emissions tests as there are none for that car with that engine. Limit for a valver was something like 0.7% and with an engine swap this was raised to 3.5%!

Dan

1995clio16v
29-11-2007, 19:32
If it does turn out to be true

Yes i can confirm this is true and its not just Stevie B's MOT man - mine said exactly the same thing about my old Hybrid. Doesnt need to pass strict emissions tests as there are none for that car with that engine. Limit for a valver was something like 0.7% and with an engine swap this was raised to 3.5%!

Dan

Good one. You can almost say what is the point of cat laws then if you can get around it as easy as that. Its ridiculous!

Not for us tho!

:o