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My GF just sent me these pics of my Williams. Some fool tried to park his 4x4 but only managed to wreak my much loved Williams. I’m pretty sure it’s a write off because I have hit the car behind too… :cry:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Pipertron/100_0695.jpg
not too bad from the front mate - whats the back like ?
What number is it ?
Imperial_16v
28-08-2007, 13:12
WTF?! Is this person blind or sommit?!
Its number 317. The back bumper just needs replacing I think but I wont really know until I get back tonight. After hitting my car he reversed into a Golf behind him doing pretty much the same damage again to the Golf .The Golf also hit the car behind. That’s 4 cars damaged trying to park a Landy.
What a retard…..
That almost sounds deliberate. How could he try to park by you, then go past you and NOT see the damage?
Did he give details to your girlfriend or anyone, or did he just drive off? Did anyone get his license number if he did just drive away?
I can't someone claiming off you because they pushed your car into someone else (when you were not even there).
Matthew
titcharoony
28-08-2007, 13:54
i agree mate sounds deliberate..the damage to me doesnt look too bad. I hada similar thing on my old r5. cost 600 to fix, needde slam panel,bonnet,wings n bumper +spraying.
seanofnp
28-08-2007, 14:14
Sounds pissed to me!
Unlucky mate, hope its repairable!
I have seen a drunk guy (and I mean drunk, wobbling all over the place) guy get into a car at a petrol station. My first thought was shock that they let him pay, the second that he was actually driving (i went over to stop him, but he drove off), the third was that one of his tyres was utterly deflated. So yeah, it's a definate possibility that the guy was peed up.
Looks nasty, I hope it's repairable!!
Matthew
what a ****ing wanker, i'd rip his cock off and shuff it down his throat!
Couldn't find this guy and get him to do it to my car could you? Save me having to spend so much on fixing mine hehe.
Relooking at the pics, structural damage looks minimal. Just some cometics such as bonnet/lights/bumper. Still absolutely gutted for you though. My worry woud be the rear of the car. Got any pics of the damage? Doyou have any creasing in the boot?
Matthew
Once again.. lack of edit function :x
Notice your alloy rim is damaged as well :(
Matthew
Who got down and took the bumper off as I notice the socket on the floor.
Matthew
MatrixGuy
28-08-2007, 17:43
what a f***king w**ker, i'd rip his cock off and shuff it down his throat!
I would 2nd that.
What a moron!!
Hope things get better for your car bud.
Swervin_Mervin
28-08-2007, 18:05
That's not too bad really. Your cross member is still straight at least. For your info mine cost about £1200 to get eh front done but that was including new cross member, inner wings pulled and new rad/fan/bonnet/bumper and spraying.
Looks either deliberate or pissed to me. Yo don't do that much damage at parking speeds unless he was trying to emulate Russ Swift and misjudged it a bit.
I've got all his details. And he obviously admits liability.
The rear just needs a new bumper and although the front looks just cosmetic I started her and she sounded horrendous :(
My insurance people seem to think its a write off. The are coming to collect it and just want to send pictures to their mechanics. I guess they don't under stand how rare these cars are becoming.
The landy removed the bumper when he reversed away.
The socket you see got stuck in my bumper when i was putting it back on.
How much do you think they will offer if they write her off ?
She was so pretty
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Pipertron/Car%20Pics/WilliamsNo-7.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Pipertron/100_0698.jpg
Look at the scum trying to remove the evidence from his landy. I can't even see a scratch on his car.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Pipertron/100_0696.jpg :evil:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Pipertron/100_0697.jpg
And the Gold he reversed into !!!
DID HE HAVE A LICENSE or a guide dog. how the hell could you do that.
wtf, thats insane, how in the hell did he manage to do that
i would have beat him to death with the bumper.
**** me
thats made me mad just reading it!!
How fast was he reversing? Like others have said i think that is deliberate, no way someone can be that wreckless.
He looks like a right twonk!
driving in flip flops!!! says it all that does.... so was he going to drive off? can we have some of his details to give him some abuse! feel for ya mate
well if anything, it is a good safety advertisement for Land Rover - smash the shit out of 2 cars - dont get a scratch on your 5 yr guarentee
u dont seem to upset about it dude? Maybe you are but are covering it up well online - but feel for you man, must be gutting.
jesus - hope the police have seen these pictures !
No trust me I'm p1ssed off just trying to laugh it all off at the moment.
I think he smashed into my car. Maybe he slipped or something (not sure how).
Then he tried to make a run for it but reversed straight into the Golf. At which point he gave up and got out as half the street had woken up and were in the street.
He works in the Chip Shop at the end of the road. I went to see him last night after work but no one was in. I'm going to report him to the police because surely this can't be treated as an accident.
Swervin_Mervin
29-08-2007, 09:59
Don't let the ins. co write it off too easily. If they do it's not the end of the world though as you should be able to buy it back off them and just get the work done.
(With reference to your own vehicle being damaged, and not someone elses) >>> I was under the impression if it's YOUR insurance company then they have the right tot write it off, however if it's THERE insurance company then you have the right to demand a full repair.
Matthew
I’m going to have another good poke around the engine bay tonight but it really sounded bad when I started it last night (like a diesel engine that’s done 200k). I’m going to ring my insurance company again and push for it being repaired. Cosmetic damage seems to be:
Rear Bumper
Boot
Front Bumper
All front lights and Grills
Bonnet
Front Wings
New air filter
Windscreen wipers
1 speed line
There are no water (Rad still good) or oil leaks which is why I hoped it might still run smooth but no luck there
Rear Bumper - £100 new Plus paint £80 Or second hand £40
Boot - £70 new plus paint £100
Front Bumper - £100 new plus paint £90
All front lights and Grills - Seond hand £50
Bonnet - New £120 paint £100 second hand £50
Front Wings - £40 second hand
New air filter - £30 max
Windscreen wipers £5 breakers yard
1 speed line - £40+ or New at £170
I’m going to ring my insurance company again and push for it being repaired.
Please tell me your not claiming off your insurance, and your just contacting your company as they are dealing with his insurance for the payout/repair???
Matthew
Thanks Northy.
That’s around 1k to fix the cosmetics. I still need to get a mechanic round really to have a look at the engine.
Unless anyone here passes through Sheen/Mortlake/Richmond area that wouldn’t mind having a look or listen ??
Don't forget the rear of the car. How much damage is there?
Matthew
Matt they are just dealing with the payout/repair. But they treat it as a claim untill the other party accepts liablity
how can he not. you were parked. got to be his fault.
He accepts liability but until my insurance people have that in writing they treat it as a claim.
Not much damage to the rear just needs a new bumper and boot. Although the boot might be able to be pulled out.
The Police have said that no crime has been committed!! Guess its not a crime to be a moron any more.
Well that's good news then about the claim. Make sure you don't loose the photo evidence :)
You may want to check the rear more by lifting the carpet and seeing if the boot is creased at all. Might need the rear section being replaced as well if it has been pushed in.
Gutted for you :(
Matthew
white16valver
29-08-2007, 13:01
What a ****ing idiot. :evil:
People like this make my blood boil as they'll just carry on and not be bothered by the fact you've had what was your pride and joy wrecked :evil:
I'd have got the police round straight off and asked hem to breathalyse him... (but would his insurance pay out if he was drunk? Or do you only invalidate your own comprehensive insurance part when you do that?)
white16valver
29-08-2007, 13:01
What a f***king idiot. :evil:
People like this make my blood boil as they'll just carry on and not be bothered by the fact you've had what was your pride and joy wrecked :evil:
I'd have got the police round straight off and asked hem to breathalyse him... (but would his insurance pay out if he was drunk? Or do you only invalidate your own comprehensive insurance part when you do that?)
Drink-drive I mean lol
Swervin_Mervin
29-08-2007, 13:45
Well that's good news then about the claim. Make sure you don't loose the photo evidence :)
You may want to check the rear more by lifting the carpet and seeing if the boot is creased at all. Might need the rear section being replaced as well if it has been pushed in.
Gutted for you :(
Matthew
This is true. Basically I;ve had nearly the same damage just in 2 separate incidents not 1!
My rear looked fine. Scuffed misaligned bumper and that was it. However, the boot floor was creased. That just got pulled out though, welded where it had split and then new bumper on top.
Crossers
29-08-2007, 18:46
Cops wise, its a damage only RTC so its not reportable.
He's clearly a muppet, but 1 slip and a bit of a panic...a landy can easily cause that sorta damage.
Paul
not surprised there is no damage to the landrover. Similar thing happened to my dads 19 16v (when it was nearly new), transit van backed into it, completely smashed the front end up just like that... was there a scratch on the van?? was there ****!!!
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More pics the boot has crushed a bit
Alternator may explain why it sounds so bad? Has the exhaust cracked or leak now?
The boot doesn't look too bad from what I can make out in those pics (I'm no professional at bodywork). Looks like you may have been lucky with the boot, but will need to be pulled out I think and resprayed back there (as the metal is exposed now).
Any shots of the front subframe area and tie bar (tracking arms?) mounting points?
Mathew
gutted for you mate - any updates from the insurance claim ?
Yeah I forgot to say that I pulled out that part of the chassis and stated the engine. Is sounds much healthier now...
I'll have a look at the sub frame etc tonight.
No progress with the insurance people yet.
looks ****ed to me that tbh. must have hit it at some speed!
looks f**ked to me that tbh. must have hit it at some speed!
Doubt it, that land rover probably weighs about 2.8ton, lot more inertia to do damage with than a stationary clio.
Justin..
30-08-2007, 18:26
Gutted for you mate :x I'd have got the bumper and beat the shit out of him with it.
Is it just me that thinks thats not toooo bad looking at it?
Andyvalver
30-08-2007, 18:43
:shock: Thats ****in shit mate. Id kill the cunt!
Hope you sort it easily with insurance. Did you swap details?
Justin..
30-08-2007, 18:45
Swap??? i would have taken his then told him to **** off
Yeah insurance is all cool they rang me today to say they are going to pay for it. But they still seem to think its a write off. :?
I'm awaiting their engineer to look at it.
thing to remember nowadays mate. insurance companies want older vehicles of the road now. so they will write a any car over 10 years old off for the slightest bit of damage.
Andyvalver
30-08-2007, 19:19
Get some ads printed off of pricey williams and show the engineer when he comes :wink:
Get some ads printed off of pricey williams and show the engineer when he comes :wink:
Already done mate. One on piston heads for 4k same millage etc......
To be honest if its a write off I can't see me buying it back. I ain't got the time or space to fix it up.
Ok.. then if you haven't got the time, then buy it back (for as little as possible) and i'm sure one of the other members on here would gladly take it off your hands for the cost you paid to buy it back. (meaning it wouldn't be taking up that much space or time for very long :)
Refuse their first offer btw.. they ALWAYS try to get away with paying out as little as possible.
Still gutted for you.... (awaits the scavengers PM's to start getting to you).
Matthew
Swervin_Mervin
31-08-2007, 20:38
thing to remember nowadays mate. insurance companies want older vehicles of the road now. so they will write a any car over 10 years old off for the slightest bit of damage.
In a word: Bollocks.
i fought my insurance company for my willy 1, due to rally heritage ect, Matt Brown has a article about it somewhere, i have it at work but it really helped, i have loads of magazine articles on disk somewhere, if you want it i will fish it out for you!! I feel a mission to follow!!
thing to remember nowadays mate. insurance companies want older vehicles of the road now. so they will write a any car over 10 years old off for the slightest bit of damage.
In a word: Bollocks.
you will be surprised mate! my mate works in car insurance! i know of an old XR2(brothers neighbour) that was written off. and all it needed was a new wing...
Swervin_Mervin
31-08-2007, 23:17
I will be surprised given that ULF has sustained over £1ks worth of damage twice now and not been written off. :wink:
titcharoony
02-09-2007, 09:58
daz mate im inclined to agree with you, from what ive seen I dont think thats too bad. ok its not small, but unless subframe is bent, i think thats fine for a repair.
subframe is an easy repair. In this case though subframe shouldn't be bent as nothing has come at it from the side (wheels).
Well the car got a full inspection today and they have confirmed its a write off. :(
They have offered me £1850 for her that I am obviously objecting to. I feel the car was worth £3.5K but need help proving it. I have got two adds off piston heads for Williams 1 100k Miles at £3k & £4K but I need another advert to send to the insurance company. Can any one else help me with a advert. Preferably above £3K :D
Thanks Andy
Good luck :)
How much did you buy her for?
Matthew
Think it was £3250. But I have done a fair bit of work since. New Rad, new steering coloum, coolant pipes etc etc.
She was mint except the stand surface rust on one arch. RR at 156 BHP, 108 K miles, standard except scorpion exhaust, Alarm, Stereo,
Do you think £3.5K is to high?
First offer will nearly always be too low. They try there luck. Just say no and you want more as the car has higher market value.
You may need to say no to the 2nd offer as well lol.
Matthew
white16valver
13-09-2007, 18:05
Don't forget to ask to buy the salvage back ;)
Yeah. Might be a propbem with that. One of Admiral terms and conditions are that they dont sell back. :?
madman1981
13-09-2007, 21:15
admiral also have this habbit of canceling your insurance once they have written your car off, GITS
?? He's isn't claiming off his insurance. He hasn't agreed to any terms and conditions, so how could admiral cancel HIS insurance?
Think you guys getting a little mixed up here.
Matthew
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