Thanks Yoz

[J o n]

for putting on a top show... even though you somehow knew it was the last time the car would run on that engine... still, has to be the most noteworthy way to end an engines life... at 8k on track :lol:

hope to see you back on the road and at the next meet pal!

[y0z2a]

would have been rude not to LOL.

:lol:

you thought she was a bit quick then? :wink:

glad you liked it anyhow.

/y0z

[y0z2a]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/mcshug/IMG_2587.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/mcshug/IMG_2588.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/mcshug/IMG_2589.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/mcshug/IMG_2591.jpg

pop goes the weasel.

/y0z

[J o n]

mate, the car looked fantastically fast on track, especially as we were sat near the hill and just as you go into the corner section where the Arial Attom was mincing around, everyone else backed off there! lol

i'll have to have a do against the 1.2 sl@g when you get her back on the road see how they compare.

saw those on CS... bloody good effort that mate!

[Allan]

well at least u have 3 spare pistons now! look on the bright side ;)

we gave u a little wave on the way out

[Winston]

It was absolutey flying on the track, nice one!!! .....Goes to show engines fly before they die :wink:

[KingStromba]

It was ok. No real corners to test the driver though. Bit like an indy circuit.


Ive seen faster.

[y0z2a]

It was ok. No real corners to test the driver though. Bit like an indy circuit.

Ive seen faster.

very true about the corners.

i doubt you would see faster out of a standard engine to be honest, it seemed to be a quick one, but there you go, all good things come to an end eventually.

/y0z

[Swervin_Mervin]

I couldn't get over how load the fvcking thing was Yoz!

What've you done to the front end BTW, as it seemed to be sat lower than the back?

[y0z2a]

oh you meant loud??

its our custom race exhaust system on there at the moment. 63.5 straight through...

low-wise:

it is on 15" wheels rather than the 16"

erm, it is on bilstein group n 172 coilovers - one of about a dozen sets made.

We are getting more made up - 172 / 182 units at the moment.

:P

just need to get a bit more camber into it and it will be sorted I think.

:-)

/y0z

[KingStromba]

Your exit speed from the corner before the long straight was way down on Marks. He used more of the track too. He was travelling faster out of the corner IMO.

Maybe you need to sort the mid speed corner handling instead of worrying about BHP BHP BHP. You carry more speed through the corners, you dont need the BHP.

The little 106's were cornering much better than all the clio's (except marks) and as a result their straight line speed / acceleration appeared better than it was.

I think Mark proved today also that all this shit about coilovers is just that. a load of shit. I beleive he runs standard heigh spring with poundage, and his car was leaning alot more than other cars, but cornering beautifully.

And what was that massive bump on the exit of that corner? WTF?

[y0z2a]

i think that mid corner speed is about as good as it will get on mine without going for more camber.

I have never bought the bhp bhp arguement, hence running a standard engine, it just isn't worth it unless you go the whole hog.

brakes and suspension is where the biggest difference is between most cars.

the bump is where they have joined two different stretches of tarmac, puts a big kick out towards the outside edge, adds a bit of fun into the corners.

the biggest fault at brunty is that there are grids every 25 metres that really upset the balance of the car.

I have to say I was appauled at the people management there. was very dangerous to say the least with people wandering over the track and things.

i did try to get mark a ticket with us, but matt & jordie had their names down first.

/y0z

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

I thought I was exiting that last corner quite slowly, as by that point every lap the front left tyre had zero grip left and wouldnt turn-in and would understeer on the power.

The track was probably the worst one I have ever driven on and the only way to overtake was to outbrake everything into the corners. I even managed to take about 25m out of the red Peugeot race car on the brakes. Got kind of destroyed on the straights though. :(

There are just too many very fast corners on that track, which arent challenging but destroy tyres very quickly. The first corner after the pits was just flat out in 5th gear at about 125. Not much to do apart from hang on.

Incidentally, the suspension set-up on mine is better for rallying than track work. Its pretty basic stuff, with new standard dampers and standard bushes on the front , but with 220lbs springs (standard are 125lbs) and 20mm ride height increase and the rears just have adjustable Avo dampers at standard height.

Mine isnt the lightest car either with a heavy 17 point cage, underbody gaurding, extinguishers etc, but it does have amazing brakes which will outbrake just about any car on track.

Anglessey should be good fun though, as its just set-up for 4 wheel drifting everywhere.

Yoz, do you think maybe the rev limit was too high on yours and thats why it popped? It was going well until the blow up.

[KingStromba]

I thought a few cars were running very high limits. I was sure a few of the pugs were going to blow, they just revved and revved

[richy]

most of them had 16v engines in which are rev happy in pug/saxo's not like awilliams mate lol

[Fred]

Yoz, do you think maybe the rev limit was too high on yours and thats why it popped? It was going well until the blow up.

he's had the R-sport on for over 50K + now, i think it was just general abuse that cause it TBH

i'm thinking stress fracture on the bottom of the piston around the gudgeon pin area

[KingStromba]

Im thinking GDi is like rust and even driving your car up there causes it to fail :shock:

[y0z2a]

mark,

you were on slicks weren't you?

that bottom corner (start of start finish straight) is very slippy for some reason.

reason it blew - 80,000 miles? might have something to do with it. 25+ trackdays? may be a contributing factor

it has been looked after - oil, parts etc but its an old engine now LOL

/y0z

[KingStromba]

Yoz, if your going to rev the nuts off your cars on track days, why dont you pick a car / engine more suited to it?

Drop a honda vtec engine in your car or get an inetgra type r?

Just a thought

[y0z2a]

Im thinking GDi is like rust and even driving your car up there causes it to fail :shock:

not quite.

GDI did a great job on the car, it was excellent. Hence the reason it has gone back to them for the new engine. :-)

/y0z

[KingStromba]

GDI worked on this engine? Just been stated!!! And it blew up? Now theres a suprise.

[y0z2a]

Yoz, if your going to rev the nuts off your cars on track days, why dont you pick a car / engine more suited to it?

Drop a honda vtec engine in your car or get an inetgra type r?

Just a thought

I know what you mean, but this engine has taken it well for about two and a half years, so I think that it is good enough. 80,000 miles on any engine is enough to stretch it to breaking point in 2.5 years.

i am putting a better engine together for this one. will be a lot more robust, that was always my plan with this. get a strong engine and then improve it. I think the civic lump would have struggled to put up with the abuse I give it. A few of the guys who do trackdays and stuff on the ctr forums have had engine failures (note engine failures, not vtec failures)

the CTR engines are also very expensive, and at the price I bought my engines last year, it would be silly to pay nearly 7 times more for another engine, and then have to enginer it to fit.

I am getting a racer over the summer I hope, so will hopefully be a lot more robust than the cup.

:-)

/y0z

[KingStromba]

What about a megane turbo lump?


What racer?


Personally i think these cars shouldnt be heavily modified in the engines to stupid power. I think you lose what the car is about which is a balance of power, handling and fun, that other cars cant emulate.

Do you think the cup would lose some of its twitchyness if you used 185 55 15 tyres at the back?

[y0z2a]

clio cup car.

GDI are excellent. I have no complaints. I hammer my car, and expect it to break, not rocket science.

/y0z

[KingStromba]

A cup racer?

One of the new ones or are you seeing the light and realising that you need a Mark 1 to be cool AND fast.

[edde]

I wondered what was happening about your cup racer I've not heard anything about it how far along is it ready to run?
Are you sticking the new monster engine in the racer?
I take it the new engine is the ones you've ben saying about?
The Cup racers track legal isn't it?
I so want a proper race car is some ways but the price and the backup you need to run one stop me.

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

mark,

you were on slicks weren't you?

that bottom corner (start of start finish straight) is very slippy for some reason.

reason it blew - 80,000 miles? might have something to do with it. 25+ trackdays? may be a contributing factor

it has been looked after - oil, parts etc but its an old engine now LOL

/y0z

No, not on slicks, well only on the rear (as I have 2 left) which is good for braking. Slicks just dont last long enough to justify the price IMO. Used Toyo T1R 205/45/15's for the first time and they were pretty good overall, considering the surface was so abrasive.

The last corner? Dont know if it was slippy or just the fact the left front took such a pasting for the rest of the lap there was nothing left to turn in.

Incidentally I can thoroughly recommend the Millers CFS 10w/60 if your car spends a lot of time on track. My old Williams put up with 4 years (well over 40odd days) of track abuse and never missed a beat. It was sold with 90k miles on the clock and still had an absolute gem of an engine.

I know someone like the Oilman might not recommend it, but look at what most people put in there Scoobies and Evos? Especially ones that spend a lot of time on track.

[KingStromba]

What if you dont track so often?

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

We use Millers CFS 10w/40 in something like the Willy. For high powered turbo Jap cars we ONLY use the 10w/60 as damage always occurs at high engine temps not wear from cold.

[KingStromba]

Ok, my next oil will come from you (after ive run it in on mineral oil), what do yuo recommend, for max protection with no expense spared

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Obviously that is based on mine and others experiences, dont really know all the ins and outs of oils. Just know what I trust.

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Ok, my next oil will come from you (after ive run it in on mineral oil), what do yuo recommend, for max protection with no expense spared

I would really recommend the CFS 10w/40. I only use the 10w/60 as mine spends ALL its time on track or rallying. I dont mind sacrificing a very small degree of cold weather protection if the engines being looked after at silly oil temps.

[KingStromba]

Cheers Mark.

[y0z2a]

I run mine on Millers.

is the best stuff in my opinion.

/y0z

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Which grade?

[KingStromba]

Hiroshima grade i think :wink:

[BenR]

cost not an issue, run Motul 300v 10w40.

Millers is pretty darn good, but this is pretty much the daddy. Its so pure i swear if you smell it you'll want to take a swig.

Doesnt come cheap though.......but then again you dont have to change every 3k like most people do.

[Slithers]

cost not an issue, run Motul 300v 10w40.

Millers is pretty darn good, but this is pretty much the daddy. Its so pure i swear if you smell it you'll want to take a swig.

Doesnt come cheap though.......but then again you dont have to change every 3k like most people do.

Lol, the stella artois of engine oil

Reassuringly expensive too

[BenR]

i have to stop myself every time i get the bottle out.....smells so sweet and yummy.

[Slithers]

Dya think its just maple syrup in a different bottle?

[KingStromba]

Anyone comment on this oil?

[BenR]

could be, i'd have to try it on some Maccy D's pancakes.

Nobody believes me until they smell it, 15w50 is the nicest.

[Slithers]

Anyone comment on this oil?

Ive certainly heard of it was just checking prices and TBH ive seen more expensive stuff around.

But i dont know shit about the oil though

[KingStromba]

I just want my engine to last as long as possible, i dont care about saving a few pence. I want the best god damn it.

[Slithers]

could be, i'd have to try it on some Maccy D's pancakes.

Nobody believes me until they smell it, 15w50 is the nicest.

Thats it im buying some

[BenR]

its definately some lovely oil.

[KingStromba]

So i can eat it out of the tank warm too?

[Slithers]

its definately some lovely oil.

found 6L of the stuff for 38 quid is that good?

[KingStromba]

Link?

[BenR]

So i can eat it out of the tank warm too?

i like my maple syrup hot! so why not.

[BenR]

its definately some lovely oil.

found 6L of the stuff for 38 quid is that good?

yea, its not bad, as for a total change you'll need about 5ltrs, and sometimes a touch more if you get everything out.

[Slithers]

Link?

http://www.mg-sportcars.co.uk/Opie_Oils.htm

[KingStromba]

5.5 litres johnny


I have a massive sump, to prevent oil flow stoppages on tight corners

[Slithers]

5.5 litres johnny


I have a trained leprachaun that lives in my engine to prevent oil flow stoppages on tight corners

Thats pretty amazing that, where u get it?

[BenR]

in his box of lucky charms?

Isnt a tight corner for you a T junction?

[Lunner]

in his box of lucky charms?

Isnt a tight corner for you a T junction?

A tight corner for him is one of those gradual bends on the motorway, anything else requires 1st gear :wink:

[Slithers]

in his box of lucky charms?

Isnt a tight corner for you a T junction?

I reackon a trained leprechaun in your engine would beat any oil pump

[KingStromba]

The little shit is drinking my maple syrup oil :x

[BenR]

isnt leprechaun pee and poop sweet anyway?

[KingStromba]

No thats FATBOY's

[BenR]

oh, sorry