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titcharoony
24-07-2007, 16:10
when Im driving (and ever since ive had the car - williams 3) ive noticed a kind of 'gate' when putting my right foot down. either hard or gradual, the feeling is the same. Basically, when i accelerate, I feel a kind of 'notch' that the pedal seems too stop on, but unless youre a complete wimp you can go right through it to the point you're flooring it normally. Its never caused a problem, and is easy to pass through this 'gate'. But im wondering, is it a fault with my ar or have other people experienced it? What could it be? Im thinking either the cable sometimes gets caught on sumthing and requires a littel extra force to push on through. Or, i do recall i think it may have been a new clio, there was a gate installed to improve fuel economy and to aid you from flooring it all the time. technically the magazine quoted, there was two open throttles, which was bizarre. It might not have been the new clio, but definately on a uk car I heard of this. Anyway, anyone got any ideas?

Mr.AdamB
24-07-2007, 16:35
yeah i feel it as wlel its because there are 2 "bits" ( not sure wat ther called) in the throttle body a big 1 and a little 1 1st half down is the smallers 1 and wen u put ure foot down it opens the bigger 1 :)

to save petrol i only drive to the notch works as well but most time i cant help putting my foot down :(

Swervin_Mervin
24-07-2007, 16:36
I'd always assumed it was the 2nd throttle body butterfly opening up. Part throttle only opens one.

Mr.AdamB
24-07-2007, 16:37
yea hthats wat its called!

also its there to save petrol!

titcharoony
24-07-2007, 16:45
cheers guys. just wasnt sure. clever stuff eh. if driven well, from £40, or full tank i can get 450miles. im sorry but that is absolutely amazing mileage. i used to think my old r5 raider as good on fuel (bout 320miles to £40). but this clio williams thingy if far better ;) i love it. quick and good on fuel.

summeh
24-07-2007, 16:52
The notch you are feeling is just the second butterfly opening.

Bailey_1260
24-07-2007, 19:59
I call it "The fun barrier" lol.

talkingfish
24-07-2007, 20:27
haha!!! my other half felt it when she drove my new Williams for the first time....

I can't remember it from my first car but it is definately there with this one...

I put some WD40 onto the cable and this smoothed the action but there is definately two "steps"

Laine_16v
24-07-2007, 21:09
When the second stages kicks in the clios warp drive switches on :lol:

titcharoony
24-07-2007, 21:14
the clio willams's warp drive kicks in you mean.
16v pretenders just hope to go quicker

MAXIBOY
24-07-2007, 21:15
race.

titcharoony
24-07-2007, 21:16
race in the place, london.

Matty86
24-07-2007, 23:21
the clio willams's warp drive kicks in you mean.
16v pretenders just hope to go quicker

savage :(


I held my own against some of the (stripped) 2.0Ls at FCS! :D

MAXIBOY
24-07-2007, 23:25
the clio willams's warp drive kicks in you mean.
16v pretenders just hope to go quicker

savage :(


I held my own against some of the (stripped) 2.0Ls at FCS! :D

as above i,ll hold the 16valver flag

Matty86
24-07-2007, 23:41
the clio willams's warp drive kicks in you mean.
16v pretenders just hope to go quicker

savage :(


I held my own against some of the (stripped) 2.0Ls at FCS! :D

as above i,ll hold the 16valver flag

lol, our trump card! :D

talkingfish
25-07-2007, 09:37
despite being in the Williams camp I must say that some of the valvers looked pretty quick at FCS..... but hey, speed isn't everything..... still don't think a valver would see which way a Williams went round some twisty bends..... :D :D :D

MAXIBOY
25-07-2007, 09:54
again i,m up fpr that challenge.

titcharoony
25-07-2007, 13:42
i doubt theres alot in it. A better driver wud kill me in a valver no doubt. i got a williams for the kudos and the legend really, plus re sale value. plus i love those damn wheels. price per bhp or mph, uve gotta take the valver. plus cheap as chips on insurance. Gotta be in the running for the most underratted hot hatch of all time.

Bailey_1260
28-07-2007, 20:01
Had the TB off today so thought i would demonstrate thechange in pedal feel.

the 2 butterflys, closed.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/Bailey_1260/DSC00224.jpg

the smaller fly opens first.
This is the point when the second fly begins to open, whne you feel the change in pressure.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/Bailey_1260/DSC00225.jpg


second fly opening.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/Bailey_1260/DSC00226.jpg

And this is the most fun position :lol:
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p36/Bailey_1260/DSC00227.jpg

Tullyvernon
29-07-2007, 00:31
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