View Full Version : VAG 1.8 Turbo engine in MK1 clio?
I'm sure i can remember reading about this on here a while ago now, either that or i dreamt it, but is it possible? Inparticular i mean the engine used in Audi A3 1.8T/S3's?
If it is possible, is there a place that anyone knows of that actually carry out this conversion?
I'll await the responses then i'll post the reason for asking! :P
If this engine doesn't fit, can you let me know what non-renault engines DO fit in a MK1 clio, APART from Volvo engines?
Cheers.
Flan done one. Do a search or PM him.
Cheers i have PM'ed him!
Tried searching for "VAG 1.8 turbo" but got allsorts of random results :?: :shock:
Dancliovalver
18-07-2007, 07:34
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9364&highlight=
my ears Burning :lol:
Good i miss that car, i should have kept it, made it 4x4 and 430bhp :lol:
Its not the hardest convo in the world it just takes time. Mainly waiting for parts to come, mounts, steel, pipes,intercooler... ect
As you can see from the links thats how i fitted it. Cut the subframe to lower the engine, i could have mounted it higher but wanted the sump the same hight as the original Clio engine. That was probably one of the hardest parts but only coz it had to be accurate. onces the engine was in there the mounts were quite easy to make. and then the fun begins.
Driveshafts, intercooler, rad was easy as the vag pipes almost match up to the Clio Rad and the clio Rad is very good, never had a problem with mine. Also the Evo intercooler i fitted was the Nuts, Sooooooo efficiant and flowed very well.
I have been asked soooooooo many times about how to do this and no1 has tried to do it again (don't take that the wrong way) the parts are cheep but it takes time. It depends on what state of tune you take it too
160-180bhp
225-250bhp
280bhp or more.
if you run it on std engine managment you could use the Golf/tt clocks which would be cool. 8)
Flan i want to do this to my valver hybrid.
I currently have an F7R and i'm just sick of them now, it needs a new head as mine is shagged and i just really can't be bothered with it anymore. I love my car but i hate the unreliability, so i figure having an engine like this running standard power to start off with would be exactly what i'm looking for, as they are fairly reliable engines from what i hear, plus powerful as standard.
Obviously you've performed the conversion yourself and respect for that! What i want to know is if there's a company somewhere that can do this for me? I don't have the space or the skills to perform the conversion myself.
Also, why did you sell yours? Who has it now? I want it :twisted:
I do engine conversions like this....
Stan, i will PM you about this as i'm seriously consdering it. As much as i love the F7R i just need something more reliable and don't have the time nor the funds to keep it running, seems to break every few months!
I do engine conversions like this....
so how much are we talking for a drive in drive out conversion, just out of interest? i'm pretty sure there's lots of people on here would like to know aswell 8)
Me being one of them :twisted:
i've given quotes before but its not cheep guys.
most people wanna spend 1k-1500 which just don't get you very far.
depends what your buget is.
Quote me Flan (PM), i already know it's gonna cost more than £1500 lol i just want to know how much.
Cheers 8)
They do the same conversion into Polo's and it can cost circa £5k iirc. It could cost even more into a renault depending on how much fabrication etc is involved. Companies like JBS Autodesigns and The Phirm are well respected for swapping this engine between VW's...
If you're struggling with searches, its also more often known simply as 'The 20VT' in VAG circles. Its a fantastic engine and has so much tuning potential, i'd imagine it would be fantastic in your car.
Cheers for the info Sambo! Will bear that in mind!
What does VAG stand for? Never have known that...
Clio_GTT
18-07-2007, 17:54
recently put into a renault 5 running good power with the potential for more.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/Clio16v-widetrack/duncan2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/Clio16v-widetrack/duncan1.jpg.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/Clio16v-widetrack/duncan3.jpg
Scoff over on RTOC would do the conversion for you mate, he knows his stuff
white16valver
18-07-2007, 18:19
Smaller than an F7R/P as well, isn't it?
Anything that gives more room in that bloody engine bay is a bonus... lol
Do you know who installed that engine? Looks mint! :shock:
Do you have to lose power steering and convert to manual when you put one of these engines in?
Do you know who installed that engine? Looks mint! :shock:
Do you have to lose power steering and convert to manual when you put one of these engines in?
Scoff over on RTOC
volkswagen audi group
Volkwagon Audi Group
Volkswagenwerk Aktiengesellschaft (Aktiengesellschaft, abbreviated AG, being equivalent to the English Corp[oration] or American Inc[orporated])
wiki is your friend ;)
since when the f**k has wiki been right. look up clio williams
Can anyone get an e-mail address or something for Scoff from RTOC and PM it to me please?
I'm not a member on there so can't contact him.
since when the f**k has wiki been right. look up clio williams
its correct a vast amount of things - think it was recently put on par with the encyclopedia brittanica for errors
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm
. If it's wrong, correct it! - looks fine to me :?
find somewhere reputable that calls it the volkswagen audi group...
its the uk name. i used to work for them
was that just what all the employees called it? or was it that actual official on the letter head name? :D
i,ll check. think i still have certificates :D
i work for npower, which is owned by a german company called RWE AG, and i can confirm that it does indeed stand for what was posted above. Most people use Volkswagen Audi Group as its the most logical, and perhaps Volkswagen UK use it as it fits nicely. However as it is a german company the 'correct', original usage of the letters will be the german translation for 'LTD.'
rob-legend
19-07-2007, 18:39
i read about tht in Practical Performace Car a few months back, the number plate on the car in the feature made me smile like. speaking on conversions, has anyone thought of putting a megane 225 engine in a willy/valver? same sort of basis, but keeping it french and won;t it sit on the same engine mounts?
Clio_GTT
19-07-2007, 18:57
i read about tht in Practical Performace Car a few months back, the number plate on the car in the feature made me smile like. speaking on conversions, has anyone thought of putting a megane 225 engine in a willy/valver? same sort of basis, but keeping it french and won;t it sit on the same engine mounts?
Scoff has put a turbocharged 172 engine into a renault 5 aswell
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/Clio16v-widetrack/scoff-1.jpg
I've pm'd him on RTOC for his contact details mate
Clio_GTT
19-07-2007, 18:59
Do you know who installed that engine? Looks mint! :shock:
Do you have to lose power steering and convert to manual when you put one of these engines in?
The VAG engines has pas pumps on them all i would require would be some custom pipes making up to fit onto the rack
Its easyer to sack of the Pas and fit a manual rack. I found the box was to close to the pas rack.
Good to see one on e R5, bet the flys. I wouldn't go the 225 mag route the box is massive iirc and its french lol
vag lump is smaller and lighter and more potential. But then if were talkin engines, How bout the Honda Lump, or just for a crease, Volvo T5 :lol:
Clio_GTT
23-07-2007, 20:35
Just for shits and giggles what would you charge to do the conversion ?
i read about tht in Practical Performace Car a few months back, the number plate on the car in the feature made me smile like. speaking on conversions, has anyone thought of putting a megane 225 engine in a willy/valver? same sort of basis, but keeping it french and won;t it sit on the same engine mounts?
Scoff has put a turbocharged 172 engine into a renault 5 aswell
I've pm'd him on RTOC for his contact details mate
Cheers,
That looks mint as well!
Clio_GTT
23-07-2007, 22:12
i read about tht in Practical Performace Car a few months back, the number plate on the car in the feature made me smile like. speaking on conversions, has anyone thought of putting a megane 225 engine in a willy/valver? same sort of basis, but keeping it french and won;t it sit on the same engine mounts?
Scoff has put a turbocharged 172 engine into a renault 5 aswell
I've pm'd him on RTOC for his contact details mate
Cheers,
That looks mint as well!
Scoff is taking a break from working on cars unfortunately mate :(
The 20vt conversion looks more and more appealing everyday
i recon it can be done for 4k including the parts but it depends on spec. 225 for example will be more as it has fly by wire :roll: then it depends if you want a custom rad or the std one, used intercooler or a new one. Black std hoses's or samco, full exhaust or downpipe to std one...ect
then there's stopping it :lol:
think i'd rather spend 4k on a 20v turbo conversion than throttle bodies, Mmmmmm, wonder whens best time to get a loan :twisted:
Flan if you can do it for 4k, including all parts, engine, custom mounts, everything etc, then you might just have £4k in your hand lol
It would need to be a confirmed £4k though with everything totalled up etc.
Lemme know because if you can do it for that price i'm very interested...
as might a few other people be i reckon :wink:
white16valver
25-07-2007, 11:12
Excuse me, I must just nip to the bank.
Now, where did I put that sawn off... LoL :lol:
Clio_GTT
25-07-2007, 18:55
4k is a bargain, the bb turbo kit costs something like that but doesn't have the same amount of potential.
The vag engines have good boxes that can take the power, theres the possibility of going 1.9 steel bottom end and running silly power or even 4WD with the right box and setup
£4k is very much a bargain...
4k??
i was gonna buy a whole new car - but im tempted the VAG the clio now!!
is that roll in roll out? you source all the bits etc?
Yeah as above! let us know!
think 4k would be the labour not parts as well. 8)
Its cheap because he doesnt have the overheads to worry about,....premises, insurance, bills etc etc etc
still i would want 4k to do one properly with the engine/gearbox supplied. i know the amount you have to spend on little bits to get it right.
who's got flans old car and how come we never here anything of it? is it still up and running fine?
looks like you have a new business venture here flan :wink:
Clio_GTT
26-07-2007, 20:37
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-S3-V-W-TURBO-ENGINE-APY_W0QQitemZ330150087039QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10372Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Clio_GTT
26-07-2007, 20:40
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-2-LITRE-20-V-TURBO-GTI-BARE-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ280081917004QQihZ018QQcategoryZ988 9QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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