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Winston
15-02-2005, 00:26
Well impressed with willy power, the torque is every thing I could of hoped it would be and more.....1st gear is extreme, wheel spinning at the top of the revs in the dry, 2nd is like first in a valver.

Could do all my favourate roundabouts and corners in 3rd rather than second. excellent. well more speed!!!

Spotted my mate in his alfa 147 1.8 twin spark, at a set of lights started of in 2nd and still smoked him good style.

Handling is awesome with the 15's, wide track and manual rack. car feels very light and nimble, with loads of feedback through the wheel. corning as fast as the valver on limit with out even trying!!

Just can't wait to compare it to the other willys :wink:, to see how the extreme light weight diet and losing the P/S set up have afected the performance.

winston*

PS anyone with a 1.8 valver, get a 2.0, It transforms your valver in to a total animal :twisted:

richy
15-02-2005, 00:37
hehe nice one glad to hear u like it!

Craig
15-02-2005, 00:37
yeah, big improvement on the 1.8 mate! like u say the torque alone makes it all that much better! sod the 4k kick, it pulls like fuk from 2k then again at 4k!!

Winston
15-02-2005, 00:43
1.8's suck :wink: lol < thats just for dannyt

Yeah craig, The torque is unreal

hopefully we can have a little battle when I come to pick up the cage :twisted:

KingStromba
15-02-2005, 00:59
Cage :shock:

Extra weight :shock:



:wink:

Winston
15-02-2005, 01:02
Only half cage tho

Sold my old one because it was to heavy lol

KingStromba
15-02-2005, 01:03
So your happy with the results of your hard work?

Winston
15-02-2005, 01:07
Hell yeah!!!!!! :D

Can see why the willy is loved so much. wider track complements the 2.0 perfectly.

Purple
15-02-2005, 03:32
Well impressed with willy power, the torque is every thing I could of hoped it would be and more.....1st gear is extreme, wheel spinning at the top of the revs in the dry, 2nd is like first in a valver.

Handling is awesome with the 15's, wide track and manual rack. car feels very light and nimble, with loads of feedback through the wheel. corning as fast as the valver on limit with out even trying!!


I have always felt the low gearing in 1st gear for this car is quite impractical with all the available low-end torque. I typically change out of 1st very quickly. 2nd to 5th is where all the action is at.

Do you get more or less torque steer in powering round corners compared to the standard 16V with assisted steering?

Winston
15-02-2005, 03:44
I'll get back to you on that, after I have got used to it again not driven it for 6months.....

dannyt
15-02-2005, 09:16
Without them 1.8's winston there would have never been a 2.0ltr....you think about that!!! :wink:

Craig
15-02-2005, 15:06
winston, my 2.0 might have a new owner by then mate!!!

getting a different car for 6 months or so till im 25!

northy
15-02-2005, 15:21
hows the steering then withg out pas ?

KingStromba
15-02-2005, 15:25
This is not the first real hybrid test. The first real test of the hybrid is when you race a chav in his 182 and hand him is balls back on a plate :wink:

Winston
15-02-2005, 16:47
Steerng is heavy as you could imagine, But as long as the car is rolling its not bad at all, loads of feel through the wheels. parking is a work out lol

Anyone won't to race me in a 182 :twisted:

Craig
15-02-2005, 18:46
This is not the first real hybrid test. The first real test of the hybrid is when you race a chav in his 182 and hand him is balls back on a plate :wink:

yes thats what i did 3 days after i got the car! he didnt look impressed and wouldnt let me past the cheeky git! was taking 2 lanes up!

the funniest part was when we first booted it and he pulled out to overtake me then i started to pull away so he had to pull back into the inside lane muhahaha! a bit shocked me thinks!

im gonna miss this car!

KingStromba
15-02-2005, 20:21
So dont sell it? :wink:

Martin
15-02-2005, 21:58
Don't worry stromba I've heard it'll be staying in the club....

KingStromba
15-02-2005, 22:05
Are you buying it Martin?

Winston
16-02-2005, 02:20
cool!!!!

Im working my way up to a 182 race

Been racing my mates 2.0 8v pasat engined Mk2 Golf <My mate that helped me fit the engine)...Tryed each others cars out. It was a Nice torquey beast.....But no match for the beast at all lol.......Also totally smoked 4 scrotes in a 106 quicksilver.

Just the big race left......beating my mates G40 Polo....Mwohhahahahaaaa!!! At york, but will no doubt have a banter with him tomorrow...

One thing I have noticed, Like u33db said there is a lack of engine braking , what are willy's like for engine braking?.....Anyway, better without!!

York anyone?????Meet??

Purple
16-02-2005, 07:43
One thing I have noticed, Like u33db said there is a lack of engine braking , what are willy's like for engine braking?.....Anyway, better without!!


Do you have the Williams gearbox and drive ratios? I find engine braking to be quite strong. Lift-off oversteer is always at the ready for mid-corner corrections. It won't feel like a Williams, if you can't throttle steer a corner. Good fun.

2 live
16-02-2005, 09:57
yep i have no probs with engine braking either..........but it tends to lead to gearbox breakin too hehe......spesh if u do it regularly

big hp
16-02-2005, 10:13
I'm looking at doing a engine conversion this year. Is there any advantage of fitting a 16v box to the 2.0? Or is it best to stick with the williams package?

dannyt
16-02-2005, 11:02
Jon why's it bad engine braking pal, and why's it reck the box i thought that was cos you were just a bit vishush with yours!!!lol :wink:

2 live
16-02-2005, 11:07
lol.thats wot i mean mate.knockin it down at a speed a little higher than it limits at ...i.e. knock it down to 3rd at 100.......will slow it down rapidly...but is a little too much for the poor box lol

Purple
16-02-2005, 11:45
lol.thats wot i mean mate.knockin it down at a speed a little higher than it limits at ...i.e. knock it down to 3rd at 100.......will slow it down rapidly...but is a little too much for the poor box lol

Is that 100kph or 100mph?? It's fairly brutal to change down to 3rd at 100kph. But at 100mph (160kph) into 3rd, I am guessing a few cogs missing after that. Is that even within 7000 rpm? That way too fierce engine braking for me. Heh, does everyone drive like this here?

northy
16-02-2005, 11:59
i dont. But have recently started to hit the limiter when i had a few doo's with the jesus last week.

2 live drives hard no matter if he's going to tescos or oulton park. heehee

Purple
16-02-2005, 12:13
Heh, and you guys called your cars "mint"? :) All these shenanigans in the most heavily traffic-policed country in the world - demerits points must be worth their weight in gold there.

dannyt
16-02-2005, 12:35
lol at 2live 100 into 3rd, no wonder you go through so many boxes!!!

mind you they still must be strong little bu**ers to cope with that and much more that 2live throws at it....i think you should test drive for reno jon....that make help them to build a better car in the future head back more towards the r turbo 2's and willys!!!lol

Danny

2 live
16-02-2005, 12:46
lol.thats wot i mean mate.knockin it down at a speed a little higher than it limits at ...i.e. knock it down to 3rd at 100.......will slow it down rapidly...but is a little too much for the poor box lol

Is that 100kph or 100mph?? It's fairly brutal to change down to 3rd at 100kph. But at 100mph (160kph) into 3rd, I am guessing a few cogs missing after that. Is that even within 7000 rpm? That way too fierce engine braking for me. Heh, does everyone drive like this here?


lol.well indicated on clocks...redlines at about 7100-7500 and it will do 90 ish in 3rd before limiter cuts in .. but have been known to need to slow down rapidly so using the box to its fullest lol....the cars revved to over 8k for quite few seconds while gettin remapped.so i know it can handle it in short doses lol

i do have a pic of me latest box in northys capable hands....when he gets round to puttin up lol

northy
16-02-2005, 13:54
on it now mate.

Winston
16-02-2005, 14:25
Its well mad without engine braking (some, but not alot), finding it quite cool.

Got a willy box btw

J o n
16-02-2005, 16:09
brakes are for girls!

...and people that like to stop... :roll: