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Imperial_16v
22-05-2007, 15:30
Well after seeing that video of the 106Gti with the 6-speed seqeuntial box and throttle bodies, I fell in love! Looked so quick and easy shifiting gear. I've been in touch with two places, one said they couldn't help me and the other (Quaife) said that they have two boxes, but they are more suited to racing.

Anyway, I looked at the price of these "race" models.... bloody £8k!!! I nearly had a heart attack.

Me and my dad both thought perhaps no more than £3k?

Does anyone have any info or details on if I could get one? Wouldn't be for a good while atm as I have more important things to finish off, but still, nice to know this kinda thing. :)

Cheers. :)

northy
22-05-2007, 15:42
sadev - hand them 6k and one will be on the way to you.

ollie16v
22-05-2007, 16:07
ask cliorod, he will tell you all about them :D

Imperial_16v
22-05-2007, 16:09
sadev - hand them 6k and one will be on the way to you.

Lol well it's a bit less than 8k I guess. :P

http://www.swrmotorsport.com/main/

I see these guys are UK distributors for them.


ask cliorod, he will tell you all about them :D

Has he got one like? Might have to drop him a PM.

Cheers. :)

cliorod
22-05-2007, 17:28
I think the £6k figure is optomistic ~~ not sure,but I think the £6 is just for the gearbox :shock: :shock: .Coupled to that ( excuse the pun),there are the shafts,the gearchange mechanism,plus a "Flat change" ecu,and the figure goes up drastically.
Ring Steve Wauby and ask how much in TOTAL for a Sadev sequential,supplied and fitted to your Williams :P :P
The "197 Cup" racers use them,~~ will they not fit.Although I expect they will not be cheap.Sequentials for most rally cars Mk II Escorts etc, are around the £6k mark
Did that 106 have a sequential ??,I know it was on a straight cut box ~~ or it sounded like it was.

Imperial_16v
22-05-2007, 17:55
I think the £6k figure is optomistic ~~ not sure,but I think the £6 is just for the gearbox :shock: :shock: .Coupled to that ( excuse the pun),there are the shafts,the gearchange mechanism,plus a "Flat change" ecu,and the figure goes up drastically.
Ring Steve Wauby and ask how much in TOTAL for a Sadev sequential,supplied and fitted to your Williams :P :P
The "197 Cup" racers use them,~~ will they not fit.Although I expect they will not be cheap.Sequentials for most rally cars Mk II Escorts etc, are around the £6k mark
Did that 106 have a sequential ??,I know it was on a straight cut box ~~ or it sounded like it was.

Cheers for the reply and PM. A lot of info to think about. Here's that vid for the GTi,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXkrvuRer1s&mode=related&search=

That is a sequential gearbox yeah? What's straight cut?

Cheers.

cliorod
22-05-2007, 18:17
OOP's :oops: :oops: I stand corrected ~~ It is obviously a sequential ~~~ did not look close enough first time :oops: :oops:

Straight cuts ~~ these are as described ~~ straight cut ~~~ Normal gearboxes have what is known as Helical gears,whilst they are more than adequate for road use,they give helical engagement ,because they are made to be quiet when meshing ~ in normal use,but due to the helical design,they lose out out with high power outputs,and with rapid changes ~~ Straight cuts are very noisy ~~ hence the whining in the 106 vid :oops: :oops: .Not a problem,with short journeys,but very tiring etc on a long run.They give a more positive drive,and engagement.and stand a fair bit more abuse :twisted: :twisted: ,~~ clutchless changes etc.
TBH unless you got pots of money :roll: :wink: :roll: ,or are contemplating serious competition,they are a very expensive luxury ~~ But I would get one if funds allowed :roll: :wink: :roll: .
My mate runs a Quaife 6 speed sequential in his Escort Rally car,he has it checked/rebuilt after every 6 events :wink: Preventative maintenance ~~ it is called.
:wink: ~ not a job for the run of the mill DIY mechanic :twisted:

1995clio16v
22-05-2007, 18:54
That gearbox sounds sweet.

That explains the Touring Car sound that you get from an in car camera on Touring Cars, the gearbox is the noise (whining).

Something I always wanted to know, i.e what the whining noise was.

dimkais
23-05-2007, 11:41
I ve got one for sale :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imperial_16v
23-05-2007, 11:43
I ve got one for sale :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you really? Or is that a joke? lol. I couldn't tell with the laughing faces.

dimkais
23-05-2007, 11:47
I have mine for sale as i sold my clio and i no longer need it....

northy
23-05-2007, 11:51
Youve sold your car !!!!! :shock:

Tommo
23-05-2007, 13:06
Really don't see the point in having this gearbox in a road car unless you're running big power or just like fast gear changes. 8k is stupid money, then there's the maintenance costs...

dimkais
23-05-2007, 13:20
I couldn't do fast changes with the JC5 gearbox but now i use full throttle clutchless changes :lol: :lol: :lol: Its a little faster than std 8)