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cliolord
24-04-2007, 14:10
Power Output 160.8Bhp at the wheels

Power Output 182.1Bhp / 165lbft at the flywheel

8) good stuff! Idle's nice and quiet now, a trained ear will be able to tell the cars been cammed but doesn't sound like a mustang on drugs anymore :P

northy
24-04-2007, 14:28
Very good....please update your garage buddy

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=rollingroad

stan
24-04-2007, 15:15
13.5% losses is abit low. usually say 17%, making calculated fly power 188bhp.

Waynes dyno uses coast down for losses, which isnt accurate, and typically lower, as proven in this case.

cliolord
24-04-2007, 16:16
13.5% losses is abit low. usually say 17%, making calculated fly power 188bhp.

Waynes dyno uses coast down for losses, which isnt accurate, and typically lower, as proven in this case.

wheel horse power is where it's all at Craig as you said ;) im happy with it. Just want the chance to open it up abit and take advantage of the new map and limiter :twisted:

Martin
24-04-2007, 16:44
What do you think to it...what limiter did you go for?

richy
24-04-2007, 20:54
is it just cams/remap and a rebuild or more??

big hp
24-04-2007, 20:58
Good effort mate.

More importantly, how long was you there LOL

Laine_16v
24-04-2007, 21:01
I look forward to a ride gaz 8)

Daz.
24-04-2007, 23:53
Good effort mate.

More importantly, how long was you there LOL

:D

nyk
24-04-2007, 23:56
Good effort mate.

More importantly, how long was you there LOL

Long enough to go and have dinner in yates's with Lee. lol

My front room never got hoovered as you corrupted him up there all day cliolord!

:D

summeh
25-04-2007, 09:36
thats impressive mate what did u have done exactly on the head?

stan
25-04-2007, 10:23
It was a £400 job from me, and Catcams 5502225 cams.

summeh
25-04-2007, 10:24
is that just labour? can u be more specific :?:

stan
25-04-2007, 10:52
it was modified ports whilst reatining std valves and seats...it cost £400.

stan
25-04-2007, 10:53
i.e thats was for the head alone...he supplied it to me, i worked it, he fitted it. cams are 450, pulleys 200.

cliolord
25-04-2007, 11:28
groovy. Martin, I dont know what the limiter was set to I forgot to say anything. I gave him my valver ECU to map and kept the standard willy ECU to sell. He said he gave it a higher limiter as it makes power past 6,500rpm. I did hit the limiter but my RPM guage doesnt seem to go much past 6,500rpm although it sounds like its rev'in alot higher than it did by far. I was a naughty boy and took it to 145mph on the speedo on private road and it was still going but i backed off :P

It took about 3hours i think? Lee is a good chap for taking me and the miss' to grab some food. I also saw his track slag with the funky polished phase 1 steering wheel :shock:

2 live
25-04-2007, 12:42
good stuff.


now u know why hes the only mapper i recommend ;)

northy
25-04-2007, 13:11
what spec are the cams stan - the page doesnt load for me.

stan
25-04-2007, 13:31
5502225
In/Ex
261 / 258° @ 0.1mm
234 / 230° @1mm
10.90 / 10.65mm
1.55 / 1.30mm @ TDC

northy
25-04-2007, 13:36
little bit up from the RN2002's then

Nice one !

Ali
25-04-2007, 14:48
I want to compare a std williams to a cam'd one!

A/ because my williams feels slow!!
B/ My 172 Thrashes it! - yet everyone on here reckon's they can beat an RS.

Jamie.
25-04-2007, 14:55
mine is standard and not the quickest but i only lose a couple of car lengths to a 172/182 so there must be something wrong with it if it is thrashing yours.

stan
25-04-2007, 15:11
I want to compare a std williams to a cam'd one!

A/ because my williams feels slow!!
B/ My 172 Thrashes it! - yet everyone on here reckon's they can beat an RS.

do a leak-down test. is it standard?

northy
25-04-2007, 15:25
I want to compare a std williams to a cam'd one!

A/ because my williams feels slow!!
B/ My 172 Thrashes it! - yet everyone on here reckon's they can beat an RS.

do a leak-down test. is it standard?

what does your williams do down the 1/4mile ?

Zollo
25-04-2007, 15:34
B/ My 172 Thrashes it! - yet everyone on here reckon's they can beat an RS.

I doubt very few people on here have an absolutely completely standard Williams though. And a few small mods seem to go a long way I've found 8)

cliolord
25-04-2007, 15:56
172....But the willy looks better doesn't it :wink:

cliolord
25-04-2007, 17:06
13.5% losses is abit low. usually say 17%, making calculated fly power 188bhp.

Waynes dyno uses coast down for losses, which isnt accurate, and typically lower, as proven in this case.

8) ...that'll do for me, puts mine at 201bhp if my calculations are correct... :)

:lol: crazy stuff Gaz. When does your power peak? Stick your graph up here. I will do the same

stan
25-04-2007, 17:19
13.5% losses is abit low. usually say 17%, making calculated fly power 188bhp.

Waynes dyno uses coast down for losses, which isnt accurate, and typically lower, as proven in this case.

8) ...that'll do for me, puts mine at 201bhp if my calculations are correct... :)

makes the difference lol....right side of the "mark" :D

northy
25-04-2007, 17:30
your graph should be on here gaz !

:nono:

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=rollingroad

Laine_16v
25-04-2007, 22:41
Gaz was so happy about his Remap results..

He got his super funk daddy dance on!!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/laine_16v/th_dance.jpg (http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q51/laine_16v/?action=view&current=dance.flv)

Joel
25-04-2007, 22:57
Lmfao!

Tune though- Darren Styles- Getting Better 8)

Matty86
25-04-2007, 22:58
lol

he's gonna love you for that! :P

stan
25-04-2007, 23:06
LMAO thats the funniest thing ive seen all week!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Laine_16v
26-04-2007, 07:08
lol

he's gonna love you for that! :P

I blame you for sending me the video! :P

I love the music too :oops:

:colours:

cliolord
26-04-2007, 13:09
lol oh dear year 2004 problems :shock:

Daz.
26-04-2007, 22:46
WTF??!? FAF!

I watched it twice for double shaming ammo :lol:

Laine_16v
27-04-2007, 07:42
Stan watched it 25 times :lol:

stan
27-04-2007, 10:08
Thats gone up considerably...im now on my 47th viewing, and still laughing hard!!!

:lol:

Martin
27-04-2007, 10:40
by lucifer's beard 180 ft/lb! thats not shy :wink:

stan
27-04-2007, 10:54
Torque is where its at 8)

MatBrown
27-04-2007, 16:34
'Power sells cars, Torque wins races.'


Mat.

Laine_16v
27-04-2007, 17:31
What should standard valver torque be?

DaveH
27-04-2007, 19:12
'Power sells cars, Torque wins races.'


Mat.

Another from mats quote book lol

Not bad power there cliolord, 14's now! Is that how the dancing is done down south :lol:

Laine_16v
28-04-2007, 08:58
Meh piece of shit engine, mine only made 108.4ft lb at Hill Power :?

2 live
28-04-2007, 11:55
take it they at the fly figures ;)


at the wheel figures will b less.


think mine was about 125 lb/ft at the wheels on RE's rollers when wayne mapped it...........from 4.5k rpm to redline

Matty86
28-04-2007, 12:04
mine made 10nm less than it should...

but more bhp o.O

stan
28-04-2007, 17:46
Torque at wheels isnt fair comparison...its determined by the gearbox. Best way (the way the best chassis dyno's work) is to measure roller speed versus engine speed to determine ratio, and from that work back to torque at the fly from torque at the wheels.

Zollo
28-04-2007, 19:15
'Power sells cars, Torque wins races.'


Tell that to an F1 engineer :P





:wink:

Laine_16v
28-04-2007, 23:26
Cliolords car is SICK, im F7R addicted, F7P boooooooring :shock: :shock: :? :P :!: :wink: :cry: :lol: