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darrenm1eqn
22-04-2007, 23:10
Right guys ive been intouch with a guy that can do Replica Williams 2 &
3 Decalswith the blue insert ..

He's doing them for £5.79 including p&p

Contact him by the following way


Email: sales@decalbox.co.uk
Telephone: 07807 079575

And tell him what you need ... Williams decal with insert

Here is some pics i will order a few to see what there like .. Cheers Darren

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/For%20Sale/williams_3.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/For%20Sale/williams_2.jpg

MatBrown
22-04-2007, 23:28
Here is some pics i will order a few to see what there like .. Cheers Darren


Don't waste your time, i can see from here what they are like.


Mat.

Daz.
22-04-2007, 23:35
In theory if I scanned my gen ones and printed them out could a printers just use that?

Those ^^ don't look right looking at the originals - not a bad effort though!

darrenm1eqn
22-04-2007, 23:40
Yer when you put them next to the original they dont look right but im sure
he could sort that out as these are just examples of what he can do ...

darrenm1eqn
22-04-2007, 23:44
In theory if I scanned my gen ones and printed them out could a printers just use that?

Those ^^ don't look right looking at the originals - not a bad effort though!

If you have the originals and can scan them and send via email im sure
he can get them printed out ...

Daz.
22-04-2007, 23:46
Send him a picture of genuine willy decals and see what he can muster :twisted:

Daz.
22-04-2007, 23:47
aye but I don't want to ruin the new ones - can take pictures of mine on the car, rezize them to match the ones I've got here on my desk and send em to him

darrenm1eqn
22-04-2007, 23:50
aye but I don't want to ruin the new ones - can take pictures of mine on the car, rezize them to match the ones I've got here on my desk and send em to him

Yer thats what i was thinking :wink:

darrenm1eqn
22-04-2007, 23:56
I did actaully send him a picture of an original Williams 3 Decal
but it was on a rear hatch and wasnt to size .. I think what he needs is a
Decal sending in the exact size and shape etc to make copies and print
out ..

darrenm1eqn
23-04-2007, 11:28
Right guys the guy who does the decals has been intouch with the
following info on the Williams Decals


The decals I offer, were a generic set made from a customers very bad photo that he bought in to our sign shop. I can however create an exact replica set for you, this is what i need.

I need a full straight on photo of your actual decals side and rear.
I need the actual length in mm's from the start of the W to the end of the digit.
and also the height of the tallest character, ie, the first straight line on the W.

The process is pretty simple, I import the photo in to the sign software, and i use a series or straight and curved lines to basically trace around the decal on the photo, once done, i colour as needed on screen and then resize to the measurements supplied.

So basically he need the original decal to be able to make replica's

Can anyone help cheers Darren

Daz.
23-04-2007, 16:22
need some good light - clean not discoloured decals and someone with a good natural colour camera :D

oh and a tape measure...

This has GOT to be worth the time and effort.

Infact next time its not raining I'll polish up and take pictures of mine

Purple
23-04-2007, 17:08
Can anyone help cheers Darren
PM me your email and I will send you a 1200dpi TIFF scan of the ph2 boot "Williams" decal made by Dourdin (Renault). It's a about 2.7MB.

Purple
23-04-2007, 17:17
Looks like this on photobucket. The scanner colour is not calibrated, so the actual colour may be off.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/Williams.jpg

darrenm1eqn
23-04-2007, 17:42
Ok its goto be worth it if we can get the replica decals exact as possible

As he says he needs pictures of originals with dimensions as in my above
message ... if you can you can send him an email with the info or email
me on m1eqn@btinternet.com and i will forward it to him .. cheers Darren

Ali
23-04-2007, 17:53
To be fair half the williams on this site are buckets...So what if the grafix are a little bit off. I'm happy with mine!

darrenm1eqn
23-04-2007, 18:04
To be honest ive just ordered a set Williams 2 set of the ones shown , so
im not really bothered as i think it will look ok on mine .. as majority
of people wont notice .. only the people in the know will know .. lol

But if we can get the exact dimensions etc printed out then it has to be
worth it .. for the guys that want a exact copy :roll:

Daz.
23-04-2007, 18:23
To be honest ive just ordered a set Williams 2 set of the ones shown , so
im not really bothered as i think it will look ok on mine .. as majority
of people wont notice .. only the people in the know will know .. lol

But if we can get the exact dimensions etc printed out then it has to be
worth it .. for the guys that want a exact copy :roll:

Like me :D

I'll do the leg work when I've got time - I've got correct genuine ones sat on my desk so I can get the dimensions spot on..

In theory that one ^^ could just be resized to both the small and bigger variants

darrenm1eqn
23-04-2007, 18:40
ok Daz ... let us know when you have sorted something ... and we'll
get tha ball rolling :D

Daz.
23-04-2007, 18:47
aye fuk em we'll do it!!

Willy clio members have to pay a premium :wink:

darrenm1eqn
24-04-2007, 14:53
Yer we'll charge em £25 a set .. :D They get a good deal an we'll be rich
i no time :P :wink:

darrenm1eqn
24-04-2007, 15:08
"in no time" not "i no time" AARGH While were there lets campain for a edit button !!!


http://mazeguy.net/angry/banghead.gif

northy
24-04-2007, 15:20
will be waiting along time for the edit button lol - use the 'preview' button first

fUbAr
24-04-2007, 19:35
Hi guys, my second post but ive been on here since day 1 (i was first :wink: )

anyway, my reason for posting...

i have just finished tracing a scaleable Vector image of the Williams logo. It's completely to scale and 100% accurate, just keep zooming in and it won't loose quality.

all you guys will need to do is send off the file to a printshop with the required size for the stickers.

CLICK ME (http://www.fubarnet.com/williams_logo.pdf)

hope this helps

/Dan.

fUbAr
24-04-2007, 19:37
oh, and i tried to match the colours as best i could... if they're not right just let me know and i'll see what i can do

/Dan.

darrenm1eqn
24-04-2007, 20:37
Nice one Dan thats great ... Just need the dimensions . but i'll email this
tp him and see what he's says .. Also got one off Purple aswell so im sure
we can come up with some decent replica decals ...

I'll let you all know how we get on :D

Cheers

darrenm1eqn
24-04-2007, 20:55
oh, and i tried to match the colours as best i could... if they're not right just let me know and i'll see what i can do

/Dan.

One thing i forgot to ask Dan is can you do a number 3 aswell as i think the template the printer has is slightly wrong to the original Williams one

cheers for now Darren

fUbAr
24-04-2007, 22:33
what does the number 3 look like?

Purple
24-04-2007, 23:30
I forgot to mention, darremm1eqn, that the back of the decal is gold colour. See if you can replicate that too.

Daz.
24-04-2007, 23:34
Excellent!!!

Thats a big big help!

Get cracking on those 2's and 3's though :lol:

darrenm1eqn
24-04-2007, 23:43
Im afraid this is the best pic i have of the number 3

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/For%20Sale/williams3decal.jpg

J_A_R_B
25-04-2007, 08:45
Hi Guys


I well up for helping anyway I can as tried to get some help in getting set done but since then have not been able to get down to graphics guys for them to get some shots. My friend has a professional SLR camera so I could take some pictures direct on if that helps. WIll Try my own camera to see what the colour representation is like. Really keen to help in any way as my stickers have all discoloured badly appart from one of the side ones so keen to replace the whole set.

darrenm1eqn
25-04-2007, 10:39
Great stuff . The main thing we need are the dimensions .. read the post i
put up above were the printer has put info on what he needs to make the
replica's ..

Ive sent the guy a file that fUbAr gave me of the Williams decal in pdf
format ... now if thats ok then we just need the full dimensions of the
decal ..

Also as stated above we need a photo of the number 3 .. i think in the
samples above the number 2 looks ok but any photos of the original
number 2 would be helpfull aswell ...

Any photos need to be spot on as the guy will then trace the image into
his sign making software as stated in an above post ..

Jason the printer has said he can make exact replica's but only as good
as whats presented to him .. in others words the template needs to be
perfect ..

Cheers guys

J_A_R_B
25-04-2007, 12:05
Can take some pics this afternoon from the car and will try doing a rubbing if cant get the pics to resize to correct size.

James

darrenm1eqn
25-04-2007, 18:26
Right chaps just recieved an email from the printer to say he has made
some decals from the original design ive sent him which should be exact
replica's fall all you fussy buggers out there :roll: :P

anyhow should be recieving them soon and will let you know and post a
pic of them on here for you to see...

Recieved a set of the design above but the colour was out , the blue was
to light in colour , i'll see if he can do a navy type dark blue inset ..

I think were nearly there . :D

Daz.
25-04-2007, 19:00
when we get there I'm ordering ten sets for futures sake!!

darrenm1eqn
25-04-2007, 19:04
when we get there I'm ordering ten sets for futures sake!!

What 1 for spares and 9 for ebay @ £25 per set :roll: Yer know your Game ! :P

Daz.
25-04-2007, 19:23
No chance - with the way these arches go on these cars I'll need every single set!

FATBOY
26-04-2007, 21:00
im up for a decent set! if anyone needs any good pics of the 3 or anything else let me know!

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 15:00
Right guys got the decals today and there to the original spec in size etc

Only thing that needs doing is that the blue inset is a bit light in colour
but that would be easily sorted

so here is a pic of the rear Williams 2 decal for the rear hatch ..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/Paint%20Work/PIC_0002-2.jpglet us know what you think

cheers Darren

Purple
27-04-2007, 15:08
99% there, much better than the ebay stickers. The gold is a bit too thin above the "a" and "m" and, I think, should be a touch darker.

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 15:15
Yer they do look darker in real life but i think the flash on the camera
makes them look even britghter than what they are ...

I think all that needs doing is the blue needs tobe navy blue or as dark
as he can get it ... as i think thats all that needs doing ..

At the end of the day they are replica's not original so i think they will be
good enough when the blue colour is made darker ...

so as you say 99% there at last

J_A_R_B
27-04-2007, 18:10
Deffo needs to be a lot darker but as said previously flash washes out colour i personally think that the gold is not quite right if you look at the pdf and other photos need to be a bit lighter i would say a bit more of a subtle gold imo. Its still a bit shiny if you get what I mean.

J_A_R_B
27-04-2007, 18:14
The Picture Purple put up I think is the best colour wise perhaps the blue is tad dark but those are the colours to go by imo.

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 18:47
Yer when you look at the original williams 3 decal on the rear hatch in this
thread the gold almost looks yellow in colour ,

Basically though the design looks ok its just the colours would you say ??

Daz.
27-04-2007, 20:18
shinier gold darker blue then 8)

drsmith1979
27-04-2007, 20:28
any idea when these are going to be for sale and available as a complete set? any ideas on prices too for members?

pm me if you dont want to publically post,

cheers

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 20:28
were getting there dazzer http://mazeguy.net/happy/hyper.gif

katbloke
27-04-2007, 21:37
i like the look of the second attempt, but what i like about the genuine reno ones is the backing is shaped to allow perfect allignment to the renault badge, perhaps picky but what the heck

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 21:51
well yer there not perfect but i suppose that comes with the price ...

at £6.44 including postage there a fraction of the cost of Renault ones ..

but i understand they need to be close to the originals..

These are available straight away .. you need to talk to Jason on 07807 079 575
or email him on sales@decalbox.com or via his website on www.decalbox.com

He's well aware of this forum as ive sent him a link for him to monitor the
reaction of the decals ...

so he knows the score .. ive just bought some for my car but there not
the ones with the blue inset , there just the normal outline ones in the
new template that i sent him .. as im selling my car im not really arsed
that they dont have the blue inset in ..

I have emailed him to say that the blue needs to be much darker as
the decals dont look right on the car with the inset on at the moment ...

So i'll let you know when he gets back to me but you are welcome to get
intouch with him and vioce your interest in the new decals ...

any news i'll post up on here ..

katbloke
27-04-2007, 21:55
ill find someone with a decent scanner and try and scan my set in that way you should get the backing paper dimensions too if that helps

J_A_R_B
27-04-2007, 21:57
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/J_A_R_B/williams2siderightsmall.jpg


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/J_A_R_B/IMGP0624.jpg

These are a couple of pics from my car as you can see the gold is a lot more subtle as you say darren quite yellowish gold then the blue is very dark I have some very hi res images so he can extract the colours from them have quite a few TIFF format can get some RAW ones just need to charge my m8's digi slr.

Having used the dropper tool photoshop says the following.
#384454 for the dark blue
#f8eba9 for the Gold

I really think it is worth getting the colours right as its in the designers best interest cause I am sure if they are really good people from this site will buy them and sure he could put on his ebay that lots of guys on this forum have bought them cause they are very acurate replicas. The other thing is nobody will see the need to better the efforts made in this thread. I know some people aren't majorly fussed but surely if get it right more people will order them and the price will go down. Has anybody got anyold logos peeled off cars that they could send to the deisgner to help with colour match or even a new decal whether is be the number or the williams logo. I am probably wrong but the logos he has done with clear backgraound look to have a better shade of gold probably just me or the fact that not against the blue.

Purple
27-04-2007, 22:02
what i like about the genuine reno ones is the backing is shaped to allow perfect allignment to the renault badge
Are you talking about the backing paper? I can measure that, in relation to the decal's position, so that you can cut it to size before you stick it on.

J_A_R_B
27-04-2007, 22:02
I would not mind paying extra just to get the colour right I am sure I am not the only one.

Have a look at this link


http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19623&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=yacht+decals&start=40

Daz.
27-04-2007, 22:36
to be fair if owners of 1,2,3's with originals took a picture of the decal positions you'd have to be a bit of an idiot to get it wrong!

Half the reasson I reckon they're lined up on gens is because the backing paper covers a good view of the decal and stop you from 'judging'.

mind you this is probably on purpose to stop replicas being made up! They shouldn't have messed with us :twisted:

Purple
27-04-2007, 22:48
Darrenm1eqn, just emailed another picture to help get the correct colour. It's getting a bit anal but we are enthusiast, aren't we? :)

Purple
27-04-2007, 22:59
:shock: Just for the record, I just found out how much it cost now for the original stickers - 204 GBP is ridiculous :shock: And to think I was complaining like hell, when I paid 25 GBP, 10 years ago for my boot decal. I think I will order myself a good set of the replicas when it's ready. This is turning out to be a worthwhile project afterall. :)

Daz.
27-04-2007, 23:23
^^^ I paid that a few months ago - hence super duper replicas would make me happy!

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 23:25
Ok guys it might also be worth one of you emailing him aswell to give him
the info as im sending him emails everyday and i dont want him to think
pestering him all the time if more people email him he the he will see
there is a genuine call for them ..

As im just emailing him with info thats passed on to me , and as im no
photo expert someone who is in the know can talk or email him direct
with info ...

At the end of the day he's running a buisness and i dont want him to think
im just hassling him all the time ... if one of you could also email him at
least he know there's a interest in the product .. if that makes sense..

darrenm1eqn
27-04-2007, 23:36
One thing i can say is atleast the none blue infill ones as in just the outline
are good enough for the Willy 1 brigade ... all we gotta do is sort the blue
out ...

J_A_R_B
28-04-2007, 01:20
I don't mind chatting to him and communicating as I am one of those who has been a bit anal in regards to colours but if we get this right decal box could make a few quid and save us a lot of money. In general its a win win situation for all yes colours aren't easy to match but it is far from impossible and think that extra effort is more than worth even if means paying £5 more. At the end of the day still gonna be a lot cheaper than what reno charge. Its time for us to stick 2 fingers up at reno as what they are charging for the graphics is ridiculous.

darrenm1eqn
28-04-2007, 22:12
Right guys just got this email from the printers

Hi Darren

Thanks for your emails, The one with the sizes was just about correct and only a couple of mm out. Thank you for that.

i saw a clio yesterday actually with the original williams 2 decals on, i now know what colour i need to get to be able to make the blue, i will be visiting my vinyl supplyer next week and will pick some dark blue up.

then i'll send you a free set.
Kind Regards

Jason Bounds

So looking promising

Daz.
28-04-2007, 22:16
Rock on!

Thank him for doing this from us - but I reckon he'll be thanked by the extra few quid in his back pocket also!

VIPERONE
28-04-2007, 22:28
daz my neighbour is graphic designer and she matched up the gold vinyl..i can get the code asap for the gold only..

J_A_R_B
29-04-2007, 00:12
that would be awsome if could get exact match on the gold good work Gunner. Seems to be coming together now which is great.

darrenm1eqn
29-04-2007, 10:44
daz my neighbour is graphic designer and she matched up the gold vinyl..i can get the code asap for the gold only..

Ok if you could sent it to Jason the printer that would be great i thing he
would apreciate that :D

simonr85
01-05-2007, 13:48
how accurate are the willy 1 stickers? as some tw@ scraped all my rear arch and quarter going past my car with either a bike or a pram and am getting it resprayed this weekend

Purple
01-05-2007, 16:11
Just received this email from decalbox.

"I have today received the darker blue vinyl from my supplier for the Williams decals, I have sent a free set to Darren so that he can check the blue and infor all the forum members, the blue is the darkest you can get in vinyl colours, but is the closest match now that i have seen one of the original decals. However all the new decals and newer images are now uploaded to the decal box website (http://www.decalbox.co.uk/ccp6/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=catshow&ref=renault_car_decals&sid=922k0k8u40m39k5573885j6piwar5kf5) for you to view and purchase.
the website does accept international orders Thanks"

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:15
Excellent Stuff , Just received the email .. I'll have a look on his sight as
soon as i recieve them i will put a close up pic on here ..

cheers Darren

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:16
sorry sight = site lol im very tired :oops:

anyway were nearly there chaps :D

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:19
how accurate are the willy 1 stickers? as some tw@ scraped all my rear arch and quarter going past my car with either a bike or a pram and am getting it resprayed this weekend

Very accurate on size and font ... check his website should be some pics on there now

cheers Darren

Purple
01-05-2007, 16:35
Shouldn't the phase 3 decal blue be a different colour? Looks the same as phase 2 blue to me.

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:38
To be honest im not to sure on that one :?

Purple
01-05-2007, 16:41
Darren, can you do bigger jpegs and post it here? His website pictures are too small to see accurately.

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:44
Yer they are revised on the willy 3 but to what extent .. ??

I suppose its whether the vynal is available in the different blue .. i think
there is only 2 blue's available , but i may be wrong...

darrenm1eqn
01-05-2007, 16:45
Yer can do .. as soon as i receive i will post on here , I still have the other
blue ones aswell so i'll post them together for a comparison ..

northy
01-05-2007, 17:13
getting there lads...still a bit off though.

J_A_R_B
01-05-2007, 22:47
The Gold Looks pretty good and the sizes look spot on but the blue imo is still too light. I personally would notice that but I notice things like that. My pictures further up the page were done in brilliant sunshine with no flash so the blue won't look to washed compared to his photos which are probably using flash photography so could be dark enough.
The other thing was I thought all the number are the same size where as back was smaller than side decals? Its just the 2 on the back decal on the website looks smaller should this be the case were the originals like that.
Looking at his Williams stickers which you can order in different colours it looks as if he has used royal blue in new stickers? Should be more of a Navy Blue imo. I hope we can get these bang on as would be shame being has got this far.

J_A_R_B
01-05-2007, 22:58
Using the images could Jason not get a colour match from the photos then get vinyl made specially and just charge extra? I am sure people would be willing to pay probably double if was bang on. It would better than £204 that Purple established was cost of getting decals from Reno. I just fear that most willy owners will stick to buying from reno as most want it to look exactly as the originals.

VIPERONE
01-05-2007, 23:52
lol just the gold outline..then the infill cannot be incorrect.

the infill on original willy stickers looks pearlescent to me,!

Purple
01-05-2007, 23:55
IMO, I think there is virtually no way we can be dead certain looking at standalone pictures. Unless someone local to decalbox, who has an original sticker, take a side by side high-res photo scan. But, as it is, I am already quite happy that the font dimensions are spot on and the gold is almost correct. For me, worse come to worse, if I don't like the blue background, I will just get those without infill. It is "wrong" I know, but at least I won't have two-tone blue on the car.

J_A_R_B
02-05-2007, 00:03
True could go outline only with clear infill but whole point is to get replicas that are spot on then people won't have to be ripped off by reno but at same time won't look at car thinking those stickers are wrong

Purple
02-05-2007, 00:26
OK. I just ordered 2 sets, with and without infill. Should take about 10 days to get here. If no one else does a side-by-side with originals before then, I will post up a comparo when I have them. 14.28 GBP for everything. Cheap, cheap. :D

Matty86
02-05-2007, 10:27
thats not bad!

i'll get some for my valver ;) ;) ;)

Daz.
02-05-2007, 13:15
OK. I just ordered 2 sets, with and without infill. Should take about 10 days to get here. If no one else does a side-by-side with originals before then, I will post up a comparo when I have them. 14.28 GBP for everything. Cheap, cheap. :D


I think I'd be prepared to forgo the infill if the size, style and colour of the williams was correct - at the end of the day when you stand a meter or two away from the car the infill gets lost in the paintwork anyway.

darrenm1eqn
03-05-2007, 16:33
Right guys got the decals today and have took a pic of both colours

The top pic is the old ones and the bottom pic is the new ones

Personally i think its still the wrong colour ... there is a difference but the
camera doesnt pic it up ... so i think its best just getting the out line decals
and using the colour of the car as the infill as i think Jason says this is the
darkest blue they do ...

unless any one else has an idea ..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/Decals/PIC_0001.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/Decals/PIC_0002.jpg

Daz.
03-05-2007, 16:43
they and different? :shock:

Did you get just the outlined new ones? any pics of those?

J_A_R_B
03-05-2007, 16:57
Whats the Gold Like? On my car (pics on previous page) the blue is darker than 449 blue so if we can get pantone of 449 then just go a bit darker or he could just get navy blue which is what it looks like anyhow? Sizes look perfect. Surely he could source from different supplier? We are really close just a bit darker infill please.

regards

James

Daz.
03-05-2007, 16:59
golds still not yellow enough!

and your right my willy decals are deffo darker than the bodywork and in the sun they deffo sparkle too

Daz.
03-05-2007, 17:15
just did this for a laugh with some of the old old decals he did before the new batch - size is totally wrong but has he adjusted the gold at all? if its still the same as these it deffo needs to be lighter but not by much - the camera dilutes some of the gold unfortunately.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/Daz0rz/Daz076.jpg

darrenm1eqn
03-05-2007, 17:17
Probably best emailing him guys to explain ... im sure jason said that the
blue he has is the darkest his supplier has ... Unless we can do a search
for him to try and find some darker blue vinyl also some lighter gold ..

what if the outline was done in a yellow as the original gold decals from
Renault looks almost yellow ... just an idea ...

Really we need someone in the flesh to go to jason in Stoke on Trent with
a original Williams decal so he can see one up close ...

Daz.
03-05-2007, 17:19
Right all you stoke mofos!

northy
03-05-2007, 17:34
That 2 looks quiet good actually daz !

Daz.
03-05-2007, 17:44
That 2 looks quiet good actually daz !

If i'm being realistic as long as the size is correct and the gold isn't far off it'll do - the genuines will always be going on after the full body treatment but in the time between the arches being done and that time rough copys will suffice

Purple
03-05-2007, 17:52
Probably best emailing him guys to explain ... im sure jason said that the blue he has is the darkest his supplier has ... Unless we can do a search
for him to try and find some darker blue vinyl also some lighter gold ..
I had a good chat with a decal maker about colour mix and all that, some time ago. Apparently, they usually represent a particular manufacturer of plastic colour laminate and they can only choose from a range from the said manufacturer. And the available ranges can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Jason's hand could be tied, in that he probably cannot use anything outside of his supplier range.

Now, it just occurred to me that DOURDIN which is printed on the backing paper of the original stickers is the likely laminate manufacturer of the real stuff. I think, it's just blue pieces stuck on gold base laminate. Maybe we can buy the a small roll of gold and a small roll of blue from Dourdin and get some graphic printers to make the stickers for us.

What say you guys? Anyone want to track down Dourdin and make them an offer they cannot refuse??

J_A_R_B
03-05-2007, 18:00
http://dourdin.co.uk/

there we go

J_A_R_B
03-05-2007, 18:04
tried the number under contacts but diverts to france and is person speaking french about opening hours then just says bye. :?

darrenm1eqn
03-05-2007, 18:17
Here's a few pics of the decals i have on my car there the new design
but obviously outline only

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/Decals/PIC_0002-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p47/darrenm1eqn/Decals/PIC_0003.jpg

J_A_R_B
04-05-2007, 14:56
I have emailed Dourdin about the colours used I doubt they will get in touch but worth a try. Also emailed Jason to see if we can get darker infill.

darrenm1eqn
04-05-2007, 17:35
Oh well just sold my car :cry:

But if we get the darker blue sorted i will buy a load incase i get another
clio ... :wink:

Its so fustrating as were nearly there , just down to the vinyl colour ..

Purple
08-05-2007, 13:42
As promised. Done on the same scanner, same settings and resolution.

Renault-Doudin 1
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/W-big.jpg

Decalbox 1
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/WD-big.jpg

Renault-Dourdin 2
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/W-small.jpg

Decalbox 2
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/ppsun/WD-small.jpg

Daz.
08-05-2007, 17:43
At least the font and size is spot on - gold will do I suppose :D

darrenm1eqn
08-05-2007, 20:15
nearly there , its strange how the blue looks almost black on the Renault-
Doudin one ... any news from decal box on the blue vinyl ?

Purple
09-05-2007, 01:00
It's not just the blue that is slightly off, it's also the pearlescent texture/colour on the original. If you over-expose the gamma on both magnified versions, it is very clear that the decalbox blue is too smooth. I guess for now, the no-infill decalbox stickers will have to do. But kudos to decalbox for getting it this close anyway.

Daz.
09-05-2007, 01:07
I've got some on the way non-infill - I'll be quite happy to whack them on the car before the final final refurbs out of the way and the genuines can go on

Ali
09-05-2007, 12:45
You's are such women! Your worried about a sticker and most of the cars are rotten and broken! :roll:

Daz.
09-05-2007, 12:52
Aye but whats the defining visual elements on a williams that makes it stand out from any other model?

The wheels and the stickers! Wheels are easy!

darrenm1eqn
16-05-2007, 10:45
Any news guys on the decal situation ... ?

Purple
16-05-2007, 13:08
Any news guys on the decal situation ... ?
None from me.

J_A_R_B
22-05-2007, 16:02
I emailed decalbox a while ago after Daz got batch off him but didn't here anything back does somebody else want to try?

VIPERONE
24-05-2007, 20:55
nearest pantone to the willy decal gold is code:

457u

G33R7
05-07-2007, 07:53
i just received my pair of stickers yesterday for my williams phase 1. but they are to small compared to the orgininals.

Purple
05-07-2007, 09:17
i just received my pair of stickers yesterday for my williams phase 1. but they are to small compared to the orgininals.
Any comparison pictures?

G33R7
05-07-2007, 09:18
i will make them tonight, i will also give the exact sizes.

G33R7
06-07-2007, 12:47
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/DSC00795.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/DSC00794.jpg

i'm 100% sure these are the original stickers.

Purple
06-07-2007, 13:21
What's your issue with them? That the new stickers are smaller than the existing stickers? Or that the new stickers are not the same size as the boot stickers? The original boot sticker is smaller than the original side stickers.

G33R7
06-07-2007, 15:03
the stickers which i ordered from decalbox are to small. these pictures are from the original. the stickers from decalbox are proximatly 1.5 cm smaller

Daz.
06-07-2007, 16:07
colour coded ruler! :lol:

Purple
07-07-2007, 02:21
the stickers which i ordered from decalbox are to small. these pictures are from the original. the stickers from decalbox are proximatly 1.5 cm smaller
Yup, there is a size error. I just went and measured the decalbox stickers (with and without infill) on my Williams 2. It seems that the bigger decalbox sticker (side stickers) corresponds with the original's smaller rear stickers. Which means that decalbox don't have the correct size for the original's side stickers. Good catch, G33R7!

I will email the decalbox guy and let him know the problem and get him to upsize the side stickers of 16.5cm length.

Daz.
07-07-2007, 14:15
You have to request the correct sized williams stickers - The ones on his website are correct - I recieved them ages ago and they're spot on size wise..

Infact I reckon I'll run around with these on for a while get peoples opinions

Purple
07-07-2007, 14:33
The smaller decalbox sticker size do not correspond to any of the originals on my car. I bought a set of non-infill as well as a set with blue infill. I will wait see what decalbox's say about it.

G33R7
07-07-2007, 18:07
You have to request the correct sized williams stickers - The ones on his website are correct - I recieved them ages ago and they're spot on size wise..

Infact I reckon I'll run around with these on for a while get peoples opinions

i think the word "williams" is smaller in a phase 2. i'm 100% sure the sticker on my phase 1 are the originals from 1993.

G33R7
10-07-2007, 07:46
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/DSC00796.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/DSC00797.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/DSC00798.jpg

northy
10-07-2007, 07:56
is that your car ???

Your 'original' stickers look very very clean still after all this time.

Do you have any more pictures of the car ?

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:08
is that your car ???

Your 'original' stickers look very very clean still after all this time.

Do you have any more pictures of the car ?

stickers are replaced with original renault stickers some years ago.

northy
10-07-2007, 08:10
cool, dont suppose u still have the invoice ???

any more pictures of the full car ? what number is it ?

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:14
last owner told me this yesterday. no dont have the invoice of that. he told me these stickers where really expensive. the car is number 3031. the car is nothing special, just a mint phase 1 williams ;)

northy
10-07-2007, 08:20
left hand drive with that high number though mate ?

I like my pictures :lol: :P

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:22
left hand drive with that high number though mate ?

I like my pictures :lol: :P

yes, car is imported from germany.

northy
10-07-2007, 08:23
Are you coming to the French car show on sunday ?

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:24
no i'm from the netherlands. would be a long journey for me :P

northy
10-07-2007, 08:25
Not if u set of now lol :wink:

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:26
haha but ontopic, the decalbox stickers are not right :(

G33R7
10-07-2007, 08:30
contact decalbox several times with any reply. anyone knows this guy personal?

G33R7
10-07-2007, 09:14
Do you have any more pictures of the car ?

http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb14/G33R7/?action=view&current=DSC00799.jpg

Daz.
11-09-2007, 13:26
Are we all done with this? :cry:

Purple
11-09-2007, 13:40
Think so, I did not get any reply from decalbox about the size issue. It's also interesting that the 2 person (myself and G337) that noticed the difference in sizing lives outside UK.

Daz.
11-09-2007, 13:55
So which are we saying offer the best match right now?

I'm getting a temp set for the arches - having the arches done this year and saving for a mega overhaul next year - don't fancy running round on shit copies for 12 months!

Purple
11-09-2007, 14:33
I'd say just stick on the non-infill decalbox ones. Only the most eagle-eyed Williams enthusiasts can tell that they are wrong. Just think of the money you save not buying the original ones and spend it on proper upgrades.

darrenm1eqn
09-10-2007, 21:52
Hi Guys not been on here for ages :cry: ..

Did you manage to sort anything about the decals ... sizes etc :)

Wobba
18-03-2008, 12:24
Sorry to drag this up again, but dont order goods from www.decalbox.co.uk

They ripped me off, and their system is screwey as it sends goods to some French address, and no one gets back to the letters, emails, phone calls etc.

There is another ebay seller called decalbox, based in the same place, with the same trading name doing the same Williams decals...they claim to not be the same people. I dont believe them, unless jason sold the business and has neglected to remove his payment system online...dubious to say the least.

Not sure what the ebay people are like, at least they got back to me.

Wobba
18-03-2008, 12:34
Seems they have had some kind of split and one part went off to make http://www.uksigncompany.com/ instead.

Still, no goods so far :(

Wobba
18-03-2008, 13:59
Hooray! This has been resolved finally, I got a refund and hopefully Jason will send me some new ones out. There was an error on their payment system.

Wobba
19-03-2008, 13:16
Ok, got money and Jason has sent me some fresh ones out for free! Yay! happy birthday to meee!

rob-legend
26-03-2008, 14:35
so whats the crack here then? has anyone actually managed to get any REALLY good replica's done up or not? :? i'm well confused. also, are willy 3 decals different to the original willy ones? becuase mine look darker in the letters than the cars lovely 432 paint 8) if you get me.

Purple
26-03-2008, 15:03
I think you may gotten the phase 2 blue infill, which should be darker than phase 3 blue infill. Whereas, phase 1 should have their infill cut -out.

Daz.
26-03-2008, 17:14
Only one colour infill both for 2 and 3.

rob-legend
26-03-2008, 17:33
sound,so can anyone make up any REALLY good replica's? 8)

Daz.
26-03-2008, 17:37
I took some samples to the shop to be played with yesterday - I'm not saying anymore than that beacuse if I do people will get arsey and moan that they're not ready yet when I never once said they would be :D

rob-legend
27-03-2008, 10:55
okay,well would you let me know if you do get some good 'uns sorted i'll exchange money for them, but i'm in no rush and i know your a perfectionist 8)

wavy
27-03-2008, 20:09
okay,well would you let me know if you do get some good 'uns sorted i'll exchange money for them, but i'm in no rush and i know your a perfectionist 8)

me 2 no rush