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white16valver
17-04-2007, 12:52
Just a thought really - I know someone on Passionford built a "new" Cossie using a 3-door shell, and it ended up on a Y-plate :cool:

So, given that for it to have a new plate it has to be like 95% new or something, can you buy everything that you'd need?

I'm guessing you'd need:

shell + all exterior lights, plastics etc
all suspension
wheels
engine + associated bits
interior

From what I can tell, the shell's 1500, the suspension is about 1k (going from my widetrack conversion), wheels are 800 if you get willy wheels, interior is probably pretty hefty...

I reckon the only serious, serious outlay would be the engine.

If you did it yourself I reckon you could get one on the road for under 8k?

Swervin_Mervin
17-04-2007, 13:00
Can't get all the required parts new anymore.

northy
17-04-2007, 13:15
I love reading the resto projects on there ! Some good efforts.

white16valver
17-04-2007, 13:22
Can't get all the required parts new anymore.
Arse :(

Swervin_Mervin
17-04-2007, 13:43
Arse indeed. I know they're a fair bit older but I wasn't impressed when I was told they no longer have any ph1 manual sunroof frames etc. :cry:

Swervin_Mervin
17-04-2007, 13:43
Edited to add:

Basically they now winding down non-essential bits. Basically if you were to crash one lightly etc, there's a chance most of the bits can be got, but other items aren't classed as essential.

white16valver
17-04-2007, 16:48
How crap is that? :? :(

snowman
17-04-2007, 17:10
Iread somewhere on a Pug forum that to build a 205 gti 1.9 from scratch using all new bits would cost nearly 50k,now i dont know if thats true,sounds really steep to me but i know how much Peugeot spares can be like Renaults

Zollo
18-04-2007, 08:49
I wouldn't be surprised if it cost 50k to build a new 205, to be honest. I'd be amazed if you could build a new Clio for 8k anyway! However, I'm pretty sure you could source enough new parts for the DVLA to class it as a new car if you really wanted to do it :)

cliorod
18-04-2007, 09:39
I made an enquiry for Northy in similar post ~~ re: "re~shelling" :shock: instead of replacing the rear quarters etc,~~ these were/are about 600 for both,whereas a new shell was only 1100 :lol: :lol: ~~ unfortunately the shells are no longer available :cry: :cry:

white16valver
18-04-2007, 09:43
Not available just in britain? Or everywhere??

It's like the shells for the Escort RS Turbos - just non-existent :(

I have seriously thought about popping across to south of france or germany or something to pick a non-sunroof and non-rusty model up uber-cheap!

MAXIBOY
18-04-2007, 10:07
problem is all the hot places that might have rust free clio,s are left hand drive.

2 live
18-04-2007, 10:15
easy enough to convert to rhd tho....especially when you can source al the bits needed here ;)

MAXIBOY
18-04-2007, 10:16
are all the holes there then like in golf shells.

white16valver
18-04-2007, 12:01
I'd imagine so - I can't imagine them making two different bodyshells, given the stress in doing so.

Though I'm ignoring the fact the Willys and Valvers have flared rear arches LoL

summeh
18-04-2007, 16:51
Cutting the holes in the bulkhead wouldn't be to hard though would it?

Allan
18-04-2007, 22:37
well if you look at that video of the guy rebuilding his clio that northy posted you can see both sides of the bulk head are the same or look very similar so i dont think it would be 2 hard

ae
18-04-2007, 23:03
I think winning the lottery would help. Imagine turning up at Renault HQ with 1,000,000 asking for a 1995 clio williams.

:groupwave:

Andrew

Zollo
19-04-2007, 08:49
Unless you put a lot of time and skill into actually improving the fit and finish, I bet you'd end up with a worse car than Renault built - any time something comes off a car, it never goes back on as well! :x

ollie16v
19-04-2007, 09:52
You could always get a good 16v/ williams shell and have it dipped and treated and then just buy all new parts :D

MatBrown
19-04-2007, 12:16
Unless you put a lot of time and skill into actually improving the fit and finish, I bet you'd end up with a worse car than Renault built - any time something comes off a car, it never goes back on as well! :x

I have to disagree!


Mat.

Zollo
19-04-2007, 12:19
I did say if you have a lot of time and skill. And of course you have copious amounts of the latter :wink:

Though I would agree that the job Renault did wasn't great in the first place!

white16valver
19-04-2007, 13:47
You could always get a good 16v/ williams shell and have it dipped and treated and then just buy all new parts :D
chu-ching!! lol

I'd like to get a new, unstressed shell, cage it properly so it stays still, get it fuly waxoyled or whatever, then build it up to top spec :cool:

richy
21-04-2007, 20:54
fields of hope and glory! lol