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Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 12:13
*Vids* hehe same result every race :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ2drS3vR0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F16ttkLmZ9w

jay s
09-04-2007, 12:17
lol, pretty much owned :D

Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 12:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6S272azsM

nuva vid

Daz.
09-04-2007, 12:28
As you'd expect really

GeeUK
09-04-2007, 14:53
Valver looks far from Standard.

cliolord
09-04-2007, 14:54
the valver was up pod awhile back. Stripped, buckets and thats it lol no engine mods except decat i think

GeeUK
09-04-2007, 14:57
Do standard valvers beat 172's standard for standard then?

cliolord
09-04-2007, 14:58
no, not if both are standard to my knowledge, the 172's have the upper hand. But on another note, a Standard williams and Standard 172 cup are the same from 0-100 with precisious little in it

Coops
09-04-2007, 15:42
depends on the valver n all, thats a bloody good engien in that one! :twisted:

Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 15:49
my valver is a beast. ran a 14.7 at pod wit shit 60ft time.

only mods are ik and magnex cat back had a gay IK on therr but it prob slowed me down a bit, usually have itg with fog scoop.

look after the engine and thre sweet :)

Gav
09-04-2007, 16:24
pah

172 driver is a novice

get someone who knows what he is doing to race ya!

CHEAT! ;)

Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 16:30
hehe 172s are slow :twisted:

cliolord
09-04-2007, 17:08
172 cup's are pretty swift though mate ;) driving by someone that doesnt hit the limiter alot :lol:

Jamie.
09-04-2007, 17:16
172 beaten by a valver post on cs please.

Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 18:21
naw i m only playn bout but ive nad no problems beating 172s all i have come up against.

Andyvalver
09-04-2007, 19:00
We had this one before in the driving tales section. Imo there is not alot between them until 70-90 mph but others have different opinions.

Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 22:12
ahh but this is no tail no story its prooooof of pure valver ownage. byut will be a shame we i go f7r sum 1 will have to continue the valver ownage legend! :P..

GeeUK
09-04-2007, 22:29
If a valver loses to a stock 172 when both are stock, then whats the big deal if a modded one which is made even lighter and decated etc beats one?

Its modded after all.

Ali
02-05-2007, 20:38
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!

Gav
03-05-2007, 01:15
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!

i wouldnt say incredibly slow, but i am yet to come up against a valver that can beat my 172

Ive also raced my valver against my 172 and my valver at the time was running sweet, and still 172 owned it

summeh
03-05-2007, 09:55
my valver is a beast. ran a 14.7 at pod wit s**t 60ft time.

only mods are ik and magnex cat back had a gay IK on therr but it prob slowed me down a bit, usually have itg with fog scoop.

look after the engine and thre sweet :)

It was stripped to the bone wasn't it??? Also, did you run slicks?

Therefore only mods are not just IK and exhaust :wink:

summeh
03-05-2007, 10:11
Stripping will by far be the best "mod" you can do (out of those), for example, a 16v weighs 980kg standard:

137bhp x 1000kg / 980kg = 139.79 bhp/tonne

Lets assume you get it down to 850kg (including your cage - this is generous as the figure for mk1 cups is 850 with dash/sound deadening).

137bhp x 1000kg / 850kg = 161.17bhp/tonne

So that's over 20bhp/tonne extra, not including your IK+decat/exhaust.

Now lets assume your 16v is making 145bhp with a strong engine, IK, decat and your exhaust:

145bhp x 1000kg / 850kg = 170.58bhp/tonne


Quite a difference wouldn't you say!

Figures for a standard 172...

170bhp * 1000kg / 1060kg = 160bhp/tonne


So anyway, my point is, stripping the interior out to such a degree is a massive modification! As you have effectively "gained" 30bhp over a standard valver.

Zollo
03-05-2007, 10:25
As Summeh and others have said - not really a surprising result to be honest!

Chris n`nic
03-05-2007, 10:33
I need to get down south when my 172 cup comes out this weekend ;)

Chris

Mr.AdamB
03-05-2007, 18:08
ill have a play with anyones 182 \ 172 in my vavler i love it but its soon going hybrid = near 200 bhp \ ton

Mr.AdamB
03-05-2007, 18:09
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!

my valver is a freak, can run 14.7s and prby can get it lower.

should come find me and see if u can beat it :P

Ali
14-05-2007, 23:38
Care!!! 1/4 mile is pointless! 30-110 etc...

Everyone knows 172's are sluggish off the line!

Strip a cup to silly lengths then do your maths again!

Your tryin to compare apples with pears.

Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 17:32
jog on mate, u and ure "cup"

Andy P
15-05-2007, 18:54
Care!!! 1/4 mile is pointless! 30-110 etc...

Everyone knows 172's are sluggish off the line!

Strip a cup to silly lengths then do your maths again!

Your tryin to compare apples with pears.

I though 172's are quick off the line then fade away after 80mph?

Nothing freaky about that valver Bish. You ran a 15.1 on road tyres as did your last one (which had a dash).

So you have either had 2 very freaky valvers, or you are good at 1/4 miles. Strip a valver, give it to Bish and it will run low 15s all day :P

Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 20:35
actualyl it was 15.0 on road tires.

and 14.9 on sliks which was still slower than my average 60ft times.

Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 20:35
i means 14.7 lol stupid no edit :|

FlamingMonkey
15-05-2007, 21:34
I wouldnt mind seeing some of these quick valvers, I've had 3 myself and love them but a Valver with basic breathing mods is not much competition to a 172 in a straight line, sorry to say, throw a few corners in and there will be **** all in it, and I'd be tempted to sway towards the valver being quicker on a decent lap.

But I know **** all, like most folk on here, I do know which looks better though 8)

Valver for the Title!!!!!

Ali
15-05-2007, 22:27
jog on mate, u and ure "cup"

I don't have a cup...Fanny.

Taylor
16-05-2007, 14:10
there is a vid somewhere of me in my 172 anhialiting a valver, in everysingle gear!!

Lee Keefy
16-05-2007, 17:02
to whom it may concern

can i have my joining fee back if my posts are going to be deleted all the time!!!! :?: :?: :?:

Mr.AdamB
16-05-2007, 17:05
taylor i fully expect a 172 to beat a unstripepd valver!

end of.

Lee Keefy
16-05-2007, 19:37
^^^^^at least you get to express your opinions :roll:

Danbz123
30-05-2007, 16:41
it all boils down to the driver, if the guy in the 172 didnt bounce it off the limiter on the first two changes then it would of been closer but i still think the mk1 would of had him,
BOY RACERS BOUNCE OFF THE LIMITER, RACING DRIVERS DONT, NUFF SAID