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peteh
08-04-2007, 11:44
Has anybody heard of this company? Just i picked an engine up yesterday with my williams, and from what i can see it's a 1.8 16v engine bored to a 2.0 :? with this companies stickers all over it :?

Anyway, some pictures -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/peteh/williams003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/peteh/williams002.jpg

what makes me think it maybe a special one, it has a pair of these babies :wink: -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/peteh/williams001.jpg

also a nice oil cooler, these aren't standard are they? :?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/peteh/williams004.jpg

and the engine tag if you look closely, it's had 2.0l stamped into it -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/peteh/williams008.jpg

any ideas, are they still trading so i can ring them? Think it's a leicestershire code.

peteh
08-04-2007, 11:45
sorry :oops: it's hill power :roll:

Dancliovalver
08-04-2007, 11:53
yes mate Nick is still trading

www.hillpower.co.uk

he build my head for me, knows what hes doin, and a really good bloke :lol:

clio_rsi_turbo
08-04-2007, 11:56
nice looking lump there mate.

peteh
08-04-2007, 12:02
won't be going in the williams, that'll staying standard, it's quick enough!!

do you think he'll know the engine from the engine number? or the car reg it was in? just the car was written off :(

16v_russ
08-04-2007, 12:09
he built the engine in my old hybrid,the man is a genuis,give him a bell and ask mate,but if nick did it u will have a vey good engine

16v_russ
08-04-2007, 12:10
oh and it wont be bored mate it will be a gen 2.0

Allan
08-04-2007, 12:11
he might do, but does a lot of clio work.

My clios have all had work done there top garage ;)

MAXIBOY
08-04-2007, 12:50
looks a good buy that. as with piper adjustable verniers you would assume its got a pair of there cams and and an external oil cooler which is not standard that could be a special lump. hopefully with headwork as well. could do with seeeing all the engine number plate as the important bit the engine code is not able to be seen in that pic. then i could tell you more about the original capacity etc.

FATBOY
08-04-2007, 13:35
nick is also a member on here! :D top man.

peteh
08-04-2007, 13:36
looks a good buy that. as with piper adjustable verniers you would assume its got a pair of there cams and and an external oil cooler which is not standard that could be a special lump. hopefully with headwork as well. could do with seeeing all the engine number plate as the important bit the engine code is not able to be seen in that pic. then i could tell you more about the original capacity etc.

is that the plate i should be looking at? Ill get them in a while for you, that pipe was in the way and i didn't wana get dirty :roll:

but the 2.0l bit isn't pushed in like the other numbers, it looks like it's been tapped in my a punch :?

peteh
08-04-2007, 13:37
oh and it wont be bored mate it will be a gen 2.0

but the 2.0l bit isn't pushed in like the other numbers, it looks like it's been tapped in by a punch :?

FATBOY
08-04-2007, 13:37
how much did you give for it in the end peteh??? if ya dont mind me asking?

MAXIBOY
08-04-2007, 13:39
yes mate the right plate. there should be a code starting F7---- something that will tell us where the engine started out its life.

peteh
08-04-2007, 13:39
how much did you give for it in the end peteh??? if ya dont mind me asking?

:wink:

FATBOY
08-04-2007, 13:41
a right bargain then :wink: nice one! welcome to williams ownership! let the problems begin lol :lol:

Andy
08-04-2007, 13:46
if you want to sell the induction kit first dibs


pm me if you want to sell cheers

peteh
08-04-2007, 14:03
a right bargain then :wink: nice one! welcome to williams ownership! let the problems begin lol :lol:

you know it :lol: :lol:

peteh
08-04-2007, 14:04
if you want to sell the induction kit first dibs


pm me if you want to sell cheers

wana sell it all :P

peteh
08-04-2007, 14:05
nick is also a member on here! :D top man.

is that his user name?

FATBOY
08-04-2007, 14:13
Nick Hill

thats his username

peteh
08-04-2007, 14:27
cheers mate, any idea what his engines produce?

FATBOY
08-04-2007, 14:29
dunno mate??? im not the person to ask really... some of our other members know a bit more than what i do... :D

MAXIBOY
08-04-2007, 15:12
each one is different due to customer spec. get me some codes.

16v_russ
08-04-2007, 15:20
with just a chip,that same induction kit,4 brank manifold and exhaust my old one would hit the limiter in 5th from a standing start in half a minute.... :lol:

hope that gives u an idea of his work ;)

i saying its prob a genuine 2.0 mate coz nick has a few of them in stk usually and it would be so much easier to rebuild a 2.0 (like he did with mine) than bore a 1.8


oh and engine plates can be transfered from engine to engine too...

katbloke
08-04-2007, 16:17
Awful company, that induction kit is rubbish ill give ya a fiver for it to save you risking running it.



























Cracking company really only joking :D , thats prob the best IK for a valver/williams

peteh
08-04-2007, 16:54
:lol: :lol: :lol: git, i was worried then!!!

think that maybe finding it's way on to my williams 8)

katbloke
08-04-2007, 17:07
:lol: :lol: :lol: git, i was worried then!!!

think that maybe finding it's way on to my williams 8)

Soz mate, yeh all these k & n kits draw hot air in from under the bonnet where as the hillpower one draws it in from the front using the original feed i believe

peteh
08-04-2007, 17:09
i wondered what that was :roll:

i saw the original feed pipe still on the williams, and the blue casing has the hole at the bottom, see what old hoses i have sitting around to fit :wink:

1995clio16v
08-04-2007, 21:14
a right bargain then :wink: nice one! welcome to williams ownership! let the problems begin lol :lol:


I really am LMFAO at that quote!

Quality!

:o

summeh
08-04-2007, 22:04
nice find, how much did u get the engine for then?

From what I can see of the engine plate "22" would assume that it's an F7P 722 (1.8 16v).

A genuine williams would be F7R 700, or a megane (same bottom end) F7R 710 and F7R 714.

Doesn't mean to say it isn't 2.0l though as it definitely looks like 2.0l is pressed in or something, which isn't standard either. So Nick has some jiggery pokery going on inside.

Oil cooler, piper verniers, probably cammed with headwork as maxiboy said earlier... Do you have the ECU for this as it's probably mapped to suit the engine.

adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and ooooooooooo is that an ECOTEK device I see ?! :lol:

u33db
09-04-2007, 07:39
I wouldn't be certain HP built that engine - you can buy all those bits separately from them or elsewhere.

peteh
09-04-2007, 08:02
nice find, how much did u get the engine for then?

From what I can see of the engine plate "22" would assume that it's an F7P 722 (1.8 16v).

A genuine williams would be F7R 700, or a megane (same bottom end) F7R 710 and F7R 714.

Doesn't mean to say it isn't 2.0l though as it definitely looks like 2.0l is pressed in or something, which isn't standard either. So Nick has some jiggery pokery going on inside.

Oil cooler, piper verniers, probably cammed with headwork as maxiboy said earlier... Do you have the ECU for this as it's probably mapped to suit the engine.

adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and ooooooooooo is that an ECOTEK device I see ?! :lol:

ive had some help from someone on here, and yes it's was originally a 1.8 16v, so means it must have had some work done to the block and main caps for a different crank to make it 2.0l maybe :?

im hoping to get in contact with the lady i brought it off next week and ask if she still has the ecu as her son dropped a clanger when i was picking it all up, apparently they have doors and wheels in the garage, so maybe a box with an ecu in it, worth a call 8)

im going to sell it on so don't really wana say how much i paid, but ive been told what it's worth :shock:

would the exhaust prts have been flowed aswell as the inlet? as that exhaust manifold shouldn't be to hard to take off and ill get some more pics :wink:

peteh
09-04-2007, 08:03
I wouldn't be certain HP built that engine - you can buy all those bits separately from them or elsewhere.

gong to ring next week and find out for sure, was hoping he'd come on and give his opinion :?

u33db
09-04-2007, 09:27
Best to ring him, don't think Nick is exactly computer literate and he doesn't frequent the forums.

16v_russ
09-04-2007, 10:12
could still be a 1.8? if it is i bet it revs like fook lol

peteh
09-04-2007, 10:21
could still be a 1.8? if it is i bet it revs like fook lol

don't think so, the engine plate has had 2.0 punched into it 8)

jay s
09-04-2007, 12:10
ive had all my work done by hillpower ( http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=browse&search=yes&user=jay s ) would'nt worry to much about the engine tag as mine says f7p 722 even tho its a 2.0ltr ( f7r ). if you could get some pics of the back of the block under the exh manifold, we should be able to see if its a 2.0ltr from there......

jay s
09-04-2007, 12:12
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=view_vehicle&CID=180

peteh
09-04-2007, 12:15
ive had all my work done by hillpower ( http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=browse&search=yes&user=jay s ) would'nt worry to much about the engine tag as mine says f7p 722 even tho its a 2.0ltr ( f7r ). if you could get some pics of the back of the block under the exh manifold, we should be able to see if its a 2.0ltr from there......

itll have to be another day mate, im at work all day now :( had a look yesterday but couldn't see much, is there a way of telling from the block or something?

the numbers on the tag under the inlet are as you said f7p e722, and co19234 but inbetween using a etching tool it's had NDHC 2.0l put in.

jay s
09-04-2007, 12:25
have a look at this post mate, will tell u all u need to know :D
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16473&highlight=

peteh
09-04-2007, 12:36
cheers mate, took me ages to find out what i was looking at :lol:

so if mine hasn't got these strengthening veins, it's a 1.8 block, but if it's been converted to the 2.0 with the 2.0 crank then it'll still look the same yeah?

peteh
09-04-2007, 12:40
also another quick one, how do you tell the difference between a williams gearbox and normal 1.8 one? As it's got one attached 8)

Clio_GTT
09-04-2007, 13:15
also another quick one, how do you tell the difference between a williams gearbox and normal 1.8 one? As it's got one attached 8)

they have a plate on them, williams is JC5 16v is JB3

peteh
09-04-2007, 13:18
also another quick one, how do you tell the difference between a williams gearbox and normal 1.8 one? As it's got one attached 8)

they have a plate on them, williams is JC5 16v is JB3

thank you :D

cliolord
09-04-2007, 15:17
LAINE GIVE THE MAN AN OFFER IMMEDIATELY

peteh
09-04-2007, 15:26
yeah come on laine!!! :lol: :lol:

Allan
09-04-2007, 15:43
50 ? offer made ;)

peteh
09-04-2007, 15:47
least i get what i paid for it 8)

peteh
09-04-2007, 16:04
least i get what i paid for it 8)

it was a joke by the way before anybody starts :oops:

Allan
09-04-2007, 16:41
lol :D

peteh
10-04-2007, 18:44
spoken to hill power this morning, seems a real top guy :D

anyway, explained the situation and he has someone interested in a 2.0 engine so hopefully it'll be going somewhere that know it 8)

summeh
10-04-2007, 20:45
More importantly, what was the spec?

peteh
10-04-2007, 21:08
i know, i know :D

summeh
10-04-2007, 22:40
i know, i know :D

lol, not gonna spill the beans then?

peteh
11-04-2007, 09:28
i know, i know :D

lol, not gonna spill the beans then?

no it was a joke, i don't know yet, probably guna start stripping today 8)

Amirclio
13-04-2007, 13:11
ive had all my work done by hillpower ( http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=browse&search=yes&user=jay s ) would'nt worry to much about the engine tag as mine says f7p 722 even tho its a 2.0ltr ( f7r ). if you could get some pics of the back of the block under the exh manifold, we should be able to see if its a 2.0ltr from there......

itll have to be another day mate, im at work all day now :( had a look yesterday but couldn't see much, is there a way of telling from the block or something?

the numbers on the tag under the inlet are as you said f7p e722, and co19234 but inbetween using a etching tool it's had NDHC 2.0l put in.

The NDHC will indicate that its definately a hill power jobby! Nick D Hill.
Could be a special bit of kit!

peteh
13-04-2007, 13:13
ive had all my work done by hillpower ( http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mode=browse&search=yes&user=jay s ) would'nt worry to much about the engine tag as mine says f7p 722 even tho its a 2.0ltr ( f7r ). if you could get some pics of the back of the block under the exh manifold, we should be able to see if its a 2.0ltr from there......

itll have to be another day mate, im at work all day now :( had a look yesterday but couldn't see much, is there a way of telling from the block or something?

the numbers on the tag under the inlet are as you said f7p e722, and co19234 but inbetween using a etching tool it's had NDHC 2.0l put in.


The NDHC will indicate that its definately a hill power jobby! Nick D Hill.
Could be a special bit of kit!


better improve your offer then! :lol: :lol: :lol:

peteh
15-04-2007, 16:19
what does everybody think it's worth, how it is at the mo?

not sure if i can be doing with the hassle of taking it over to leicester, just wana concentrate on getting the williams on the road, ive taken the gearbox off now, so it can go as a bare block/head, and i can sell the oil cooler, fse boost valve thingy and gearbox after, by the way.................................

the clutch is like brand new 8) , so i don't think the engine has been built that long :wink:

bass_direct
16-04-2007, 04:35
tell ppl to make you an offer!

peteh
16-04-2007, 11:06
they all take the piss abit :?

matty w
16-04-2007, 11:17
why not say offers over a certain amount, youve obviously got an idea

peteh
16-04-2007, 11:31
been told not to let it got for less than 500 :?

Amirclio
16-04-2007, 18:27
Pm'd mate

cliokiz
16-04-2007, 20:22
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the valver manifold? Could hold a clue!

Amir, this engine looks a beast! It's about time you got yourself an F7R :P

Laine_16v
16-04-2007, 20:24
Tbh its value is chopped alot by nobody actually being able to confirm it actually is a 2.0! :P

cliokiz
16-04-2007, 20:35
Very true!

But i suppose if it's stamped by hillpower themselves, im sure a quick phonecall would confirm either way!

peteh
16-04-2007, 21:06
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the valver manifold? Could hold a clue!

Amir, this engine looks a beast! It's about time you got yourself an F7R :P

what's the manifold clue mate?

peteh
16-04-2007, 21:08
Tbh its value is chopped alot by nobody actually being able to confirm it actually is a 2.0! :P

it's got neil's at hill power initials on the engine stamp, and straight after has 2.0l stamped, going to give another ring tom anyway 8)

cliokiz
16-04-2007, 21:40
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the valver manifold? Could hold a clue!

Amir, this engine looks a beast! It's about time you got yourself an F7R :P

what's the manifold clue mate?

Well the manifold on that engine is from a 1.8 16v engine (F7P), although they're easily swappable so could still be a 2.0l!

peteh
16-04-2007, 21:43
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the valver manifold? Could hold a clue!

Amir, this engine looks a beast! It's about time you got yourself an F7R :P

what's the manifold clue mate?

Well the manifold on that engine is from a 1.8 16v engine (F7P), although they're easily swappable so could still be a 2.0l!

what's the difference to the williams one, just out of general knowledge soo i can look at my williams one tom, had no idea they were different :?

sorry new to this french car ownership :lol:

MAXIBOY
16-04-2007, 21:45
1.8 16v is a huge piece of cast iron shaped modern art. willy is light weight tubular.

peteh
16-04-2007, 22:01
sorry, exhaust mainfold your talking about :roll:

yeah i knew they were different, thought you meant the INLET.

cliokiz
16-04-2007, 22:15
Inlets are the same AFAIK

VIPERONE
16-04-2007, 22:31
1.8 16v is a huge piece of cast iron shaped modern art. willy is light weight tubular.

true, it would be at home in a sculpture park.

peteh
16-04-2007, 22:38
1.8 16v is a huge piece of cast iron shaped modern art. willy is light weight tubular.

true, it would be at home in a sculpture park.

:lol: :lol: :lol: