3rd too short? chip & remap for 7k?

[Jamie.]

something that i am going to consider very carefully over the next few weeks as i just feel that 6.5k comes around far far too quickly. 2nd feels too short, but i just feel that 3rd should open up a little more than 80 ish. i also feel that the performance would be much enhanced by this mod as i feel that it would power right through to 7k. 60 must come around in high 6's after this.
however what is everyone elses thoiughts and feelings regarding this? does it make as much diff as i am expecting. how much will it cost and what would be the best option BB or k-tec. heard a few people say BB.
cheers Jamie

[Daz]

You can hit 60 with a 6800/6900 limit I think.. (HillPower chip)

[Martin]

Hillpower. nuff said

[Slithers]

Chipwizards is a pretty good bet iirc

[scotte666]

jamie i thinmk this 2 was gunna look at bb as its so much closer 2 me

[Martin]

Chipwizards is a pretty good bet iirc

350 notes though...so better for the finishing touches after cams. imo

[Winston]

Chip wizards cost roughly the same as BB/Ktec chips :shock:

Hill power for rev limit increase

C/W for a remap/chip

Not sure which route to go down myself?

[Martin]

Chip wizards cost roughly the same as BB/Ktec chips :shock:

Hill power for rev limit increase

C/W for a remap/chip

Not sure which route to go down myself?

Cams+ Chipwizard+ Euro Slag = 13s!?? :shock: :wink:

[Winston]

Chip wizards cost roughly the same as BB/Ktec chips :shock:

Hill power for rev limit increase

C/W for a remap/chip

Not sure which route to go down myself?

Cams+ Chipwizard+ Euro Slag = 13s!?? :shock: :wink:

Mwwwwhahaahahaha!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: maybe with next years student loan :wink:

[2 live]

lol.

cams..chip wizards re-map...lard arse compared to the yellow beast.....13s this year hehe


think the 2 results speak for themselves tbh

quickest clios behind ours is adis old un/matts old un...which is same spec maybe a l'il higher, off gas that only ran a 14.2....on a hil power chip iirc

[Martin]

Aye for mapping after serious mods it's got to be chipwizard...I was'nt that impressed with the mapping at hillpower when I had my cams retimed...good for a simple rev limit raise on a stnd(ish) car though imo.

[Jan]

Agreed - i've got a stage 1 hill power chip which raised the limit to 7k and improved the torque a bit... still found myself bouching off the limiter on sunday :twisted:

[scotte666]

does the hill power chip just raise the limiter or map the car as well. i want a chip that will raise limiter and hopefully give me some power. i got full s/s scorpion decat and a ktec viper induction kit would like cams but cant afford them so think il just get a chip as my only other engine mod. what doe people suggest?

[Martin]

The hill power chip based on a car with breathing mods....but not your car obviously! Therefore it won't be nearly as effective as a chip mapped using your car on a r/r...but it 'should' give more than just a few revs to play with. I was certainly happy with the hillpower chip I had on my willaims when it was near standard. Mods were fully stripped with buckets, Exhaust, Viper and Hp chip = 14.97 on my first ever 1/4 mile run and 14.90 on my second! :)

[Jan]

the hillpower chip should give you around 5-10 bhp

[2 live]

in gear speeds are roughly.

63 in 2nd instead of 55

90-95 in 3rd instead of 80

120-125 in 4th instead of 110 ish

dunno 5th yet...used to top out at 145 just over on clocks before.....not now tho hehe............still pullin like a train at 145 now

[Jamie.]

cheers for the advice guys. even on my 1st few spins i feel like i have just planted my foot in 2nd and 3rd before changing almost immediatley. although i love 4th and that being fairly short, great fun for the express way, not too much noise, but shit does it pull.

[VIPERONE]

I'm having my limiter set to 8k.. thats witha 2.0l bottom end...

valve bounce occurs at 8.5

[Martin]

:shock:

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

I'm going to have my rev-limit removed and just keep on revving it until it explodes. :twisted:

[2 live]

lol...mines been all the way round the rev counter.passing 8k revs with ease

needle was pointing straight down to the pedals lol...

needless to say i asked wayne to drop the limit a little bit..or at least put a fukkin limiter in there before i blow it up on the way home hehe

[Jan]

lol...mines been all the way round the rev counter.passing 8k revs with ease

:twisted: i think my engine sounds strained at 7k!

[J o n]

I'm having my limiter set to 8k.. thats witha 2.0l bottom end...

valve bounce occurs at 8.5

erm... so whens your cars funeral? :wink:

[scotte666]

what will a standard healthy engine take limit wise should i go up 2 7 or 7.5? :D

[Jan]

i'd go upto 7k with your spec with a standard engine - i'm perfectly happy with mine and would probably start worrying if it rev'd any higher :?

the 16v can take 7.5k no problems, but that's because of the shorter stroke

[scotte666]

i know 7k is the sensible option but surely 7.5k now and then will be ok if not excuse for a rebuild lol

[Steve a]

i know 7k is the sensible option but surely 7.5k now and then will be ok if not excuse for a rebuild lol
Unless you have cams etc then thers no need as peak power is around 6300-6500rpm on a standard/mildly tuned F7R.
The hillpower option is a good bet unless your planning cams etc, pleased with mine.

[scotte666]

steve how much did u pay?does it just raise the limiter or remap the car for settings u got. also is it setup for your car or an off the shelf chip?

[J o n]

it's a pre done map on that engine, so should be pretty good for most cars. if you want a proper chip then your talking more money, but they are tailored to suit your car and it's mods.

[scotte666]

how much is the hill power 1?would i be better off with this and saving my £ over a chip wizards one if i just have decat exhaust and viper induction kit and dont intend getting cams?

[Jan]

i think the hp chip is 175 + vat, and it's probably the best value if you just stick to the basic mods - i'm pleased with mine 8)

[Nick Hill]

Club price for one of our stage 1 chips is £164.50 fitted inc vat. A map set specifically to your car on the rolling road is an additional £195.00 for rolling road and mapping time. Retail price for the stage 1 chip is £205.63.

[summeh]

Nick, can you supply it unfitted??? So I could fit it myself? What would the price be then, or is that not recommended?

[KingStromba]

You could send him your ecu in the post summy

[summeh]

oh right i thoguht it would be a new chip he supplied and u just fit... not a remap of ure existing chip.

[Jan]

the standard eprom is soldered into the ecu. nick cuts the old one out and solders a new carrier into the ecu, then fits the new eprom into that 8)

after seeing him doing it, i would not recommend doing this yourself!

[clean16v]

Just to clear up a few things, the HP chip sets the limit at 6900RPM, and with a williams gearbox you can NOT hit 60mph. Adi and i did many tests with both of our cars running the chips and using an AP-22 set exactly right (it was compared to Yorks timing equipment and came up almost exactly correct) we couldn't hit 60 in second. Running standard cams the cars power starts to tail off VERY quickly after 6600ish RPM. Even with a HP chip some of my fastest 1/4 mile times came from shifting at 6700rpm, the raised rev limiter just makes sure you dont bounce it on changes.
For that sort of money you can't relly go wrong though. I'd be tempted for chipwizards if i wasn't running OMEX.

[scotte666]

if i go for the stage 1 chip how much extra bhp am i looking at (4/5bhp) over a remap one specifically for my car.beaering in mind i only have full s/s system inc decat and viper induction kit

[clean16v]

are you running 2l or not? On a 1.8 i wouldn't bother mate, even on the 2l the difference is not fantastic unless running cams....

[scotte666]

its a wiliams 3 covered 60 k miles. u thionk id see any diff with the stage 1 chip £160 odd seems to good to resist dont just wanna throw money at it though it its not gunna make a difference

[Jan]

you'll be pleased 8)

i did some in gear timing before and after the chip and to be honest it was exactly the same, but it drove much better, pulled cleaner and reved higher - so still worth the money IMO

[scotte666]

jan did u get urs fitted or was it already on the car?so u think its defo worth doing for the price?did u go hillpower or send them ur ecu?

[Jan]

i drove up to hill power 8)

[scotte666]

how long did that take mate?did u notice a power difference at at ?

[Jan]

takes about an hour to fit... like i said pulls cleaner & feels faster

now give nick a bell and book it in :wink: (i should be on commission here?)

[scotte666]

how long it take u 2 get 2 hill power mate

[Jan]

i think it was about 1.5 hours to get there, but it's quite a nice drive once you get off the m/way :wink: