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Dancliovalver
21-03-2007, 16:08
They are saying on the radio that this car tax bracket is now going on Engine size and 4X4s, and thety are saying that 2.0ltr and up are the top of the price bracket meaning we will be paying £400 a year to tax our ****ing cars!!!!!!!!
looks like those bunch of pricks are gonna have their own way again!! :roll:
I knwo I heard this also. Hopefully with mine being 1.8 it wont go up that much.
But I ahve heard that for my class it will be an extra £100 a year, and the 2ltr and above will be £400 a year.
anyone wanna buy a Williams 2
i really cant justify paying that much tax to run a car like the williams for a few thousand miles a year
Im not sure if this applies to older cars. Only to ones registered after 2001 ?
bluenose
21-03-2007, 16:22
But you can insure a williams on classic insurance and i thought classic cars were tax exempt?!
£400 a year is disgusting! Fair enough if you have a 4.5 v8 that spews out more crap than Gordon Brown himself but not on a clio!
bluenose
21-03-2007, 16:28
That came out wrong! lol. I should have worded it differently, sounds like i dont pay tax now! what is the criteria for a car to be a classic anyway? I've heard the word 'classic' in the same sentence as 'williams' on a number of occasions.
Im not sure if this applies to older cars. Only to ones registered after 2001 ?
yea thats true, all to do with the emissions the car produces and they only started noting emissions on cars made from 2001.
well remembered
Andyvalver
21-03-2007, 16:54
arnt williams 1998cc or somethin :P Try claiming its not a true 2.0 lol
classic for free tax is 1971. but this should roll on but doesn,t. should be any car over twenty/twenty five years old. but as it stands 1971. same year as the black plates etc.
luckly mine is 2000, if i had to pay £400 i would be selling it, dont drive it enough properly to justify the amount im spending to keep it on the rd
Dancliovalver
21-03-2007, 17:32
arnt williams 1998cc or somethin :P Try claiming its not a true 2.0 lol
lol thats a pretty good idea :twisted:
i think its also something to do with the tax bracket aswell isnt it, like group G is gonna be the highest or something, what group is a willaims/valver just out of curiousity?
Dancliovalver
21-03-2007, 17:33
oh and a 172/182 for lauren
Thats absoluty wank!!
u all droping down to F7Ps :twisted:
and me dad uses his 4x4 not just for the school run, to tow there Caravan. its fookin silly slags driving 4x4s gettin tax up.
classic for free tax is 1971. but this should roll on but doesn,t. should be any car over twenty/twenty five years old. but as it stands 1971. same year as the black plates etc.
yes that is true! it was meant to be a rolling thing but that stopped in 1996... anything 1971 and before are classed as classics..
They are saying on the radio that this car tax bracket is now going on Engine size and 4X4s, and thety are saying that 2.0ltr and up are the top of the price bracket meaning we will be paying £400 a year to tax our f***king cars!!!!!!!!
looks like those bunch of pricks are gonna have their own way again!! :roll:
it goes on emissions mate, 182 ect is in the same price band. doesnt affect cars pre 2001. its to stop mums buying 4x4's for the school run.
wont be any different for us
just been on the dvla site
The rates of vehicle tax take effect for vehicle licences taken out from 22 March 2007.
Private/light goods TC11
Not over 1549cc
115.00
63.25
Over 1549cc
180.00
99.00
yeah we wont be payed £400 a year, but what takes piss is the 4x4s still have to meet emissions laws and alot of them are just as clean as some normal cars!
btw i mean newer 4x4s as in 2001 onwards, this goverment takes the piss, i klnow lets waste 13billion on an olympics event and close more hospitals n leaves holes in roads and lack of police etc, muppets! :roll:
tis a piss take...altho the mrs dci has dropped from £50 a year to £35 ...she keeps reminding me how cheap her car is....
now she does a lot more miles in her dci than i do in the willy...wont be long before ppl are crying out for the new road tax plans, taxed on distance driven etc.
theyl get what they want one way or the other ..they always do....give it to ya with one hand, take twice as much away with the other.
Just checked it out on the DVLA as well, our golf is coming in at band G, which is £300 a year road tax.
lol
what are we looking at paying? still the same as it is now?
read my last post above mate!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
from whats been said here ours will stay the same(probably raise a few£ anyway)
after 2001 with larger engine or 4x4 = lube up time
Lee Keefy
21-03-2007, 23:46
£400 for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B**ST*RDS :x
Swervin_Mervin
22-03-2007, 01:24
I'll remember that Lee when I'm billowing smoke and unburnt fuel out the back of ULF. :lol:
Obviously I pollute much less than you, you fvcking planet killer. :wink:
It's all a load of wank really isn't it?
BTW the classic thing was frozen at 1973
so for all cars made before 2007 the tax for 6 months is 99.00?
clowo16v
22-03-2007, 12:45
Reason they've done it is because everybody opposed been taxed by the mile, so they stick the big price hike in and people think "well it could have been worse" so they'll pay it
Matt
Swervin_Mervin
22-03-2007, 14:30
so for all cars made before 2007 the tax for 6 months is 99.00?
Errr, no. Pre 2001 there's a fixed rate depending on whether you're under/over 1549cc. Post 2001 you'll be taxed based on emissions.
Reason they've done it is because everybody opposed been taxed by the mile, so they stick the big price hike in and people think "well it could have been worse" so they'll pay it
Matt
the man speaks sense............give it another couple years and the expense then will have ppl begging to be put on the pay per mile scheme i reckon... 1 way or the other.....theyv got u by the bollox.
no the pence per mile taxing will come into play soon. they held it off as it would have had an effect on the elections
once the elections are over they will begin implemeting it.
It was on the news the other day, someone over heard that Ladyman bloke talking about it
clowo16v
22-03-2007, 16:49
They'll never get everybody to fit the black boxes to their cars and if they fit em in new cars everybody will just keep their old ones.
Matt
thinking about it tho, if the whole global warming thing is so bad and they are so worried about the effects that carbon is having on the weather why dont they introduce more drastic measures now rather than putting tax up and hoping ppl just stop using cars more.
just doesnt make much sence on their part which makes me think its just bollox
^^^^^^
global warming/carbon emissions are a load of bollox mate. just another way of the govt taxing us stealthily.
0.005% is what the human race emits in terms of carbon....cattle etc make more than us.
as for the global warming/cooloing debate...its a natural thing.the earth has been heating up and cooling down again for millions of years. its no biggy.
Dancliovalver
22-03-2007, 23:07
^^^^^^
global warming/carbon emissions are a load of bollox mate. just another way of the govt taxing us stealthily.
0.005% is what the human race emits in terms of carbon....cattle etc make more than us.
as for the global warming/cooloing debate...its a natural thing.the earth has been heating up and cooling down again for millions of years. its no biggy.i missed that program that was on TV but i heard bout the scientists saying it was all bollox, liek u say just another excuse to rip us off for more tax!!!!
Robbing Bastards!!
We should do what the americans do, when prices of fuel goes up they all rebel.. so thats why nothing goes up by Much or so my Business lecturere at college says lol :lol:
Dancliovalver
22-03-2007, 23:18
lol that would be nice but no-one seems to have any backbone now!!!!
PUBLIC- thats it we're goin on stike!!!
MUPPET BLAIR- NO GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!
PUBLIC- OK mr blair please dont tell me off :twisted:
Reason they've done it is because everybody opposed been taxed by the mile, so they stick the big price hike in and people think "well it could have been worse" so they'll pay it
Matt
the man speaks sense............give it another couple years and the expense then will have ppl begging to be put on the pay per mile scheme i reckon... 1 way or the other.....theyv got u by the bollox.
id rarther pay £400 tax a year then pay per mile....i duno about everyone else but i do about 8k miles a year.....wasnt they goning to be charging £1 per mile?
clowo16v
23-03-2007, 18:41
All you need is a car that'll do 170mph then just run away from the police lol
Matt
lol that would be nice but no-one seems to have any backbone now!!!!
PUBLIC- thats it we're goin on stike!!!
MUPPET BLAIR- NO GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!
PUBLIC- OK mr blair please dont tell me off :twisted:
Thats Correct Dan. I shall start a 1 man Picquet in Barnsley Lmfao!
:lol:
Dancliovalver
23-03-2007, 19:03
:goodposting:
Swervin_Mervin
23-03-2007, 19:06
no the pence per mile taxing will come into play soon. they held it off as it would have had an effect on the elections
once the elections are over they will begin implemeting it.
It was on the news the other day, someone over heard that Ladyman bloke talking about it
The news were talking arse. It won't happen for quite some time yet. No one wants to be the one to introduce it.
So for our old timer cars the tax has gone up by a fiver which isnt too bad, they aim this tax hike at people they consider can afford it. i.e. i know a couple of salesmen at work that own 4x4's and they said it doesnt bother them and wont stop them buying them. Likewise for the people that come in to buy 60k Q7's or A8's theyl just pay it.
The government claims its to stop people buying these cars but they are counting on the fact that the more wealthy people wont care. As said its the people with larger engined cars that are older like 2001 172's, Golf v6's etc that will suffer because they dont have the same sort of money but have to pay the same tax. It should all be relative but it isnt.
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