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Mark_Ritchspeed
13-05-2005, 18:04
Got me some new cams coming this weekend. Same spec as Jesus is running. Cant frigging wait.
:D

KingStromba
13-05-2005, 18:13
I can tell you are worried by my driving skills so are modifying your car to stay infront at the sprint day :roll:

Mark_Ritchspeed
13-05-2005, 18:25
Tis true. I have been having many a sleepless night recently for fear of being trounced by Stromba and his Willy. :roll:

KingStromba
13-05-2005, 18:27
Haha, i know a worried man when i see one. You think your good with your three wheel action, haha, thats nothing i go to work on two wheels everyday :roll:

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 09:33
If you don;t mind me asking fella, how much did you get them for or is it a secret :D

J o n
16-05-2005, 09:51
good on ya Mark, I take it that your fitting and timing them yourself?

Mark_Ritchspeed
16-05-2005, 18:18
Got the cams yesterday so will hopefully fit them this week at some point. Will be running them on standard timing for the minute, but will get the verniers in a month or two.

Unfortunately cant disclose price, but rest assured I got a good deal. But then we do deal with Ben fairly frequently in one way or another.

Cant wait to slap em' in and see how it goes. :D

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 19:00
you got em from ben? :shock:

Check ur oil pump mate

J o n
16-05-2005, 19:01
yeah yeah yeah :roll:

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 19:08
hehe new cams for moi too :wink: 8)

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 19:10
Monkey you got cams too? :shock:

J o n
16-05-2005, 19:24
AV IT, which ones you go for in the end pal?

Mark_Ritchspeed
16-05-2005, 19:25
Ditto, which camwiches?

J o n
16-05-2005, 19:43
*drool* mmmmmm camwiches....

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 19:45
Went for the Kent RN2002 same as 2live and associates

Should be here for the weekend, hopefully fitted next week.

Can't recommend Dave @ RSM Motorsport enough http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/ he knows his shit and was friendly and polite to deal with

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 19:47
Went for the Kent RN2002 same as 2live and associates

Should be here for the weekend, hopefully fitted next week.

Can't recommend Dave @ RSM Motorsport enough http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/ he knows his shit and was friendly and polite to deal with

Yeah but i bet he cant put a fruit pastel in his mouth without chewing

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 19:48
Went for the Kent RN2002 same as 2live and associates

Should be here for the weekend, hopefully fitted next week.

Can't recommend Dave @ RSM Motorsport enough http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/ he knows his shit and was friendly and polite to deal with

Yeah but i bet he cant put a fruit pastel in his mouth without chewing

Weird he did mention that on the phone :?:

J o n
16-05-2005, 19:50
and...???

well???

can he or cant he?

Winston
16-05-2005, 19:51
wow.......there will be only me without cams :shock:

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 19:51
And me :D

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 19:52
and...???

well???

can he or cant he?

He said it could only be done by inserting the pastel up his bum and forcing it up through his body, thus destroying the sugary goodness, when it arrived in his mouth he didn't feel much like chewing :twisted:

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 19:53
LOL.


Fruit enema :shock:

FlamingMonkey
16-05-2005, 19:53
wow.......there will be only me without cams :shock:

You don't need cams you have an extreme weight loss setup to counteract and cammage :D

Winston
16-05-2005, 19:56
*Goes outside and rips out the dash* lol

N/W battles are going to be very close indeeeeeeeed!!!! AVE IT :D

VIPERONE
16-05-2005, 20:21
also my cams are here,,,lol

as well as my ported and polished head...oh and chip..

VIPERONE
16-05-2005, 20:29
you will be pleased to know that all and i mean all my mechanical parts are here for my 2 litre conversion!

mech specs:
2.0l megane bottom end
1.8 head.
ported and polished
fast road cams
new lifters
new oil seals
full gasket set.
new dizzy cap
new clutch
40k jc 5 gearbox
splitfire blue silicone leads
new water pump
new sensors
blue water piping set
decoked and refurbed inlet manifold (also port matched)
uprated clutch kit
decoked and de rusted exhaust manifold + respray.
rocker cover undergoing refurb.

subframe mounting kit, radiator mounts, exhaust gaskets, loctite, oil, oil filter...

cosmetic:
6 willy wheels all refurbed
engine spray (t b done - illuminous yellow)

work begins weekend....

Winston crane required..... ;-)

Winston
16-05-2005, 20:53
Nice thread steal dude :wink:

"(also port matched)" .........Is it? I didn't sell it with a inlet .....lmao... it came with a 19 one which i threw in the bin.

Come and get the craine :roll: ....and bring me my T/B :wink:

Martin
16-05-2005, 21:02
And me :D

You sure...?? :P

KingStromba
16-05-2005, 21:04
:shock:

Martin
16-05-2005, 21:06
Nice one Monkey :D got to keep up with the Northrop's :wink: . RSM is up my way... go there quite a bit Dave is a sound guy he got me some decent pads for Oulton. Apparantly he still holds a lap record there for formula ford or summut...

Martin
16-05-2005, 21:10
Think it's gonna be a 172 wrecking crew in the N/w soon! :D
The Nana is back to it's best now after I re-set the ecu :D
2live's Legendary 1 in Front
Winston's Euro Slag with no cams :shock:
Gunner's and TheJesus' megg engined beasts
and Northy & Monkeys ongoing battle goes to cams!

Watch out now!

VIPERONE
17-05-2005, 00:30
Nice thread steal dude :wink:

"(also port matched)" .........Is it? I didn't sell it with a inlet .....lmao... it came with a 19 one which i threw in the bin.

Come and get the craine :roll: ....and bring me my T/B :wink:

yes..

i placed the gasket on the in let//.. marker pen'd it and dremmeled it :-)

northy
17-05-2005, 07:50
Think it's gonna be a 172 wrecking crew in the N/w soon! :D
The Nana is back to it's best now after I re-set the ecu :D
2live's Legendary 1 in Front
Winston's Euro Slag with no cams :shock:
Gunner's and TheJesus' megg engined beasts
and Northy & Monkeys ongoing battle goes to cams!

Watch out now!

Oh yes...Me and monkey have had some good doo's over the last year. Only now ive got a full stainless system on can i manage to get a nose infront of him.

Just hope these cams see the right gains and we can keep on going...heehee

Andy
17-05-2005, 08:16
shit forgot about them (not as confident as i once was about beating you and handing you your arse on a plate lol) :cry:

J o n
17-05-2005, 08:24
yeah come on Northy 2, think you've had the car long enough now... time for schmams now fella ;)

Andy
17-05-2005, 08:25
richys are sat here in a box wonder what it would say

fitted them to wrong car soz lol :twisted:

Andy
17-05-2005, 08:26
richys are sat here in a box wonder what it would say

fitted them to wrong car soz lol :twisted:

J o n
17-05-2005, 08:27
richys are sat here in a box wonder what it would say

fitted them to wrong car soz lol :twisted:

DO IT!!!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andy
17-05-2005, 08:30
waying up the options might get a few beats though

and possibly losing my engine

J o n
17-05-2005, 08:36
lol, yeah, i'd imagine a kicking would deffo be administered! hehe

wait til he gets his cams in and then get better ones, everyone knows Willy 2's are the fastest ;)

Andy
17-05-2005, 08:53
rekon i will be up there now mine does seem very quick skinted my self buying it need to recover for a whuile before anything major :cry:

2 live
17-05-2005, 09:02
lol, yeah, i'd imagine a kicking would deffo be administered! hehe

wait til he gets his cams in and then get better ones, everyone knows Willy 2's are the fastest ;)


lmfao.gotta get past the '1 in front ' first mate hehe

J o n
17-05-2005, 09:15
you cheat tho... by way of having more mods... :lol:

Andy
17-05-2005, 12:03
quite happy to sneak up behind you and waste you mate and then retire as champion the 2 in front then 2 lives

Martin
17-05-2005, 12:10
hehe if you can't win fair and square.....CHEAT go on 1! lol 2live will still be past 2 secs later though.

northy
17-05-2005, 12:11
hey u.

Keep your sticky mitts out of my box of cams....you can help me fit them thats all lado.

big hp
17-05-2005, 12:14
Send them to me Northy 2, i'll deny all knowledge and you can profit from the deal and buy your own. :wink: :twisted:

J o n
17-05-2005, 12:23
Send them to me Northy 2, i'll deny all knowledge and i'll sell them back to you... :wink: :twisted:

hmm, sounds like a good deal... for you! ;)

big hp
17-05-2005, 12:26
Send them to me Northy 2, i'll deny all knowledge and i'll sell them back to you... :wink: :twisted:

hmm, sounds like a good deal... for you! ;)


Even better :D

Andy
17-05-2005, 13:02
might have to think about this lol :twisted:

BRUN
17-05-2005, 13:07
ive got cams on mine, now either there crap or summat else is wrong

dannyt was edgin past me on a little motorway blast the other week, he was on his own and i had the mrs in with me, but surely the extra weight cant account for it, i mean the mrs doesnt weigh much

Piper 270 i think they are, with Kent pulleys

WeZ01y
17-05-2005, 13:09
cams for me next too... as soon as i get the gearbox fixed that is!

northy
17-05-2005, 13:11
come on guys...you all carnt get cams...at this rate we will all be stuck at the same level.

In fact balls....im going the full monty. Carnt be having a rare car with common mods on.

2 live
17-05-2005, 13:32
lol......guess they just listen to good advice, well nearly....


seeing the results has kinda made a lot of ppls minds up tho. i think lol

J o n
17-05-2005, 14:06
Brun, it's prolly the fact your running 270's mate, too agressive imo, than and Danny's freak valver is a rapid one, it made 120AWT on the RE performance RR day.

Swervin_Mervin
17-05-2005, 14:08
Cams are soooo last year. :P

BRUN
17-05-2005, 14:14
the cam spec seems to be this

Inlet duration - 264
Exhaust duration - 256

Inlet lift - 9.9mm or 0.39"
Exhaust lift - 9.2mm or 0.362"

Timing

22-62
58-18

it lists full lift @ 110degrees

lift @ TDC with clearance
Inlet - 1.27mm or 0.05"
Exhaust - 0.86mm or 0.034"

that all means nothing to me but it might mean something to you lot

how much does it cost to have cams timed ?....might get Andy@GDI or BenR to have a go at timing them for me, but ive spoke to u33db and he said they are timed as they should be to the spec sheet for the cams

J o n
17-05-2005, 14:52
where's JonnyBeGood when you need him... he'll know for sure.

big hp
17-05-2005, 15:01
how much does it cost to have cams timed ?....might get Andy@GDI or BenR to have a go at timing them for me, but ive spoke to u33db and he said they are timed as they should be to the spec sheet for the cams

:roll:

Martin
17-05-2005, 15:33
ive got cams on mine, now either there crap or summat else is wrong

dannyt was edgin past me on a little motorway blast the other week, he was on his own and i had the mrs in with me, but surely the extra weight cant account for it, i mean the mrs doesnt weigh much

Piper 270 i think they are, with Kent pulleys

Danny probably weighs the same as your missus...lol so there will be a fair difference in weight 2 up to 1up.....and his is a quick un' but yours should deffo be quicker with cams in!?

2 live
17-05-2005, 18:41
could be that the cams are too aggressive.but could also be poor mapping.etc etc etc etc lol

J o n
17-05-2005, 19:18
yeah get the timing checked out pal, it's prolly something simple...

Martin
17-05-2005, 19:21
hmmm yeah it COULD be something simple :shock: ...try re-setting the ecu lol worked for me!

richy
17-05-2005, 19:23
cams schmams! :cry:

BRUN
17-05-2005, 20:58
well ive had the battery off tonight, and strangely it does seem quicker afterwards ??

VIPERONE
17-05-2005, 23:20
has the ecu been altered to account for the increased lift/fueling?

BRUN
17-05-2005, 23:37
yup its chipped

y0z2a
18-05-2005, 03:12
Think it's gonna be a 172 wrecking crew in the N/w soon! :D
The Nana is back to it's best now after I re-set the ecu :D
2live's Legendary 1 in Front
Winston's Euro Slag with no cams :shock:
Gunner's and TheJesus' megg engined beasts
and Northy & Monkeys ongoing battle goes to cams!

Watch out now!

stop being so soft...

not a chance in hell ;-)

/y0z

J o n
18-05-2005, 10:12
hehe, we'll soon see Mr Hughes! You done much else since you ran the 14.5???

I'm aiming for 14.0 or faster once timed and mapped :lol:

J o n
18-05-2005, 10:25
dunno mate, 14.5 is still VERY fast and I think that was with usual breather mods and stripped out with an R-Sport ECU... still more than a match for some of the lower powered Scoobs etc and on the road it would be faster. Yoz will correct me if i'm wrong i'm sure, although he still knows Williams are faster ;)

y0z2a
18-05-2005, 11:22
dunno mate, 14.5 is still VERY fast and I think that was with usual breather mods and stripped out with an R-Sport ECU... still more than a match for some of the lower powered Scoobs etc and on the road it would be faster. Yoz will correct me if i'm wrong i'm sure, although he still knows Williams are faster ;)

he's correct.


14.5 is a bit pants based on the amount of money youve spent on that car surely?

I only got 3 runs in 14.9, 14.7, 14.5.

Only "mods" to the engine are Rsport ECU, PiperCross Viper and Exhaust, so not a lot of money spent on it.

Standard iit ran 14.9 at Pod as its best time.

Back On Topic - Cams...

Mine hasn't got them yet ;-)

/y0z

J o n
18-05-2005, 11:48
so Yoz, you think you'll take 'the one infront's' title??? what sorta times you gonna be aiming for?

I take it your gonna be using your own cams?

can you post the specs up of em if so?? (all the geeky tech stuff and numbers bit)

2 live
18-05-2005, 11:54
same as me stromba i think.lol


experience beats textbooks and qualifications hands down in my experience lol

y0z2a
18-05-2005, 11:56
so Yoz, you think you'll take 'the one infront's' title??? what sorta times you gonna be aiming for?

I take it your gonna be using your own cams?

can you post the specs up of em if so?? (all the geeky tech stuff and numbers bit)

don't know mate, not been 1/4 miling since pod last May/June. In all honesty it is just too far to go anywhere for the day. York - 200 miles Pod - 120 miles.

Will get down to pod more than likely, but do want to come up to York one weekend soon.

:-)

/y0z

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 11:58
Look whats just arrived boyos

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/cams1.jpg

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/cams2.jpg

Swervin_Mervin
18-05-2005, 12:01
Look whats just arrived boyos

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/cams1.jpg

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/cams2.jpg

Schweet! What did you go for FM, the 2002 like 2Live? Are they replacement hydraulic tappets?

2 live
18-05-2005, 12:03
but if ppl want a car that works after its been modded....they are always welcome to pay me to do the mods mate...if they choose not to its their choice lol

a lot of other so called performance specialists and tuners u dont get that service lol

northy
18-05-2005, 12:03
ACE....they look great mate.

CArnt wait to get them fitted....MMMM cam's

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 12:03
Yeah mike thew RN 2002 ones, no idea what any of it does in the box, but it includes cams,lube,timing disc, followers , I know nothing, just gonna hand them over and let him work his magic

Swervin_Mervin
18-05-2005, 12:04
LOL! How much?

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 12:09
£573 from RSM Motorsport http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk

2 live
18-05-2005, 12:11
u broke the box already rob?? lol

J o n
18-05-2005, 12:11
so 2 live's fitting yours Rob??? or have i got it all wrong... lol

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 12:13
u broke the box already rob?? lol
Whats you mean dude?

Jesus, no my mate who does all my car work is doing them

J o n
18-05-2005, 12:17
LOL @ Stromba, you should be a crime investigator mate

good stuff Monkey, cant wait for some doo's with you all! Which reminds me... need to fix me zorst... :(

J o n
18-05-2005, 12:30
i've always said RR figures are bollox too pal, never trusted any of them for an accurate reading, BUT, they do give you an idea and that's what it's all about end of the day surely?

on the road is where you notice it and down the strip comparing against similar cars. dont be too dismissive of their work tho Rob, even you'd be surprised at the stuff they do.

Swervin_Mervin
18-05-2005, 12:31
But if the majority of customers are happy then what's wrong? There's plenty of tuning/RR/etc companies that have shocking reuptations but stay afloat.

I'd rather go somewhere purely by word of mouth myself, whether it's a company or an individual. If I decide to go the 2L route next year I'll prolly ask 2Live to lend a hand with most of it but that's because I've met the lad, trust him, and have seen the fruits of his own labour. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider others though on the same basis.

If it went tits up it's a risk I'm willing to take TBH.

J o n
18-05-2005, 12:36
as Mike says, it's all a risk and most of us have engines with well over 50k on them, so their not as strong as they once were... although some will be stronger... which cant really be explained, but hey, it happens and things can and do go wrong. you pay your money and take your chances.

WeZ01y
18-05-2005, 12:39
Monkey... How did you order these? Did you ring them or order them online?
When i get paid im getting cams so what would you advise?
These them?
http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/shop_details.asp?productID=5032

Swervin_Mervin
18-05-2005, 12:41
Exactly. And you really don't know how cars of this age have been run in etc, which could explain a lot about why some people's cars rarely give people any bother yet others (Jesus) seem to stumble from one problem to the next.

J o n
18-05-2005, 12:44
exactly pal, hopefully this new engine will give me less problems now and be ever quicker than the last one.

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 13:09
Monkey... How did you order these? Did you ring them or order them online?
When i get paid im getting cams so what would you advise?
These them?
http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/shop_details.asp?productID=5032

Yes mate those are the ones, I rang them up Monday and spoke to Dave who I think owns RSM, they arrived today I went for the Kent RN 2002 kit, but since buying them I also need, according to my reliable sources

* Cam Seals
* Cam belt kit (Not cheap £90ish)
* Rocker cover gasket
* Oil and Filter

FlamingMonkey
18-05-2005, 13:15
Oh and by the way the car is booked for cam fitting on Friday, so no doubt will be on here Saturday chasing up a megane block or similar...lol

BRUN
18-05-2005, 18:58
well ive had a look at the cam specs for these RN2002 that you Willy boys are going for, and my cam is actually milder than that, so maybe mine isnt much of a step up from standard

for some reason though, last day or so its felt a lot faster

northy
20-05-2005, 09:10
Good luck for today Flamingmonkey.

Hope the results are good.

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 09:12
Cheers trev, just hope I don't have martins luck :P

Sorry Martin coudn't resist :twisted:

GazTwo
20-05-2005, 09:15
Yep good luck mate hope all goes to plan....I'm sure it will.

Monkey & Northy grudge match @ Ty Croes Friday 29th July.... :twisted:

KingStromba
20-05-2005, 09:17
Cam lube????? :shock:


Whassat for?

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 09:18
It's for when he give me the bill for fitting the cams...lol

KingStromba
20-05-2005, 09:31
I thought that was dry entry

2 live
20-05-2005, 09:31
hehe good luck mate..gunna be miles faster than northys now hehe

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 09:32
hehe good luck mate..gunna be miles faster than northys now hehe

:wink:

northy
20-05-2005, 09:34
only for a month 2live.

Plus monkey has always been faster than me untill i got my exhaust on...heehee

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 09:36
only for a month 2live.

Plus monkey has always been faster than me untill i got my exhaust on...heehee

*cough manifold :)

J o n
20-05-2005, 09:46
i'm gonna smoke both of you tho... :lol:

northy
20-05-2005, 09:47
only for a month 2live.

Plus monkey has always been faster than me untill i got my exhaust on...heehee

*cough manifold :)

Yes its nice isnt it. :wink:

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 09:51
Smells of burnt plastic if you ask me...lol

J o n
20-05-2005, 10:06
Smells of burnt plastic if you ask me...lol

:O

lol

northy
20-05-2005, 12:00
woooo going there are we.

Well ateast my platic burn whilst running 134.5BHP mate.....oh what was yours ???? :lol:

Steve a
20-05-2005, 12:06
May be looking at cams around the end of june, whats the rough price difference between ben's and the kent RN2002?

FlamingMonkey
20-05-2005, 12:30
woooo going there are we.

Well ateast my platic burn whilst running 134.5BHP mate.....oh what was yours ???? :lol:

137 on decent rollers :D hahaha

Martin
20-05-2005, 15:30
Cheers trev, just hope I don't have martins luck :P

Sorry Martin coudn't resist :twisted:

LOL I think you should be fine.... your not getting cams re-profiled with a lump hammer are you? :wink:

Oh and whats the verdict on the shmams then?

KingStromba
20-05-2005, 15:32
What do you do with your old cams?

FlamingMonkey
25-05-2005, 11:44
Old cams are sat at home for when it goes back to standard :lol:

Look what just arrived today

http://www.coates.eclipse.co.uk/picture59.jpg

northy
25-05-2005, 11:47
hope u got two mate :wink:

Go on rob - im well impressed with the current set of mods...once u start - u carnt stop.

FlamingMonkey
25-05-2005, 11:51
Yeah dude they came in a sealed pack of two with a timing disk, allen key and some pin type jobbies

J o n
25-05-2005, 12:22
pah, mine are gold :roll: lol

FlamingMonkey
25-05-2005, 13:14
pah, mine are gold :roll: lol

Yep but mine will be on by weekend :wink:

J o n
25-05-2005, 13:43
LOL :oops:

FlamingMonkey
25-05-2005, 13:57
hehe only teasing mate

2 live
25-05-2005, 14:01
hehe only rubbing it in mate


:shock:

J o n
25-05-2005, 14:04
hehe, i know fella, nothing but love in here!

FlamingMonkey
25-05-2005, 14:10
hehe, i know fella, nothing but brown love in here!

:lol:

VIPERONE
25-05-2005, 15:48
LOL...

bloody hell.... what do i need to do to keep up...
will have to generate myself some overtime .,,,