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FlamingMonkey
26-02-2007, 19:05
Looking at replacing all the discs and pads on the williams, which is going to be used solely for track.

Heard people recommend Brembo max discs from GSF and Ferodo Pads, I think I have some DS2000's under the stairs, is this a good combo or are the 2500's better?

I have always experienced brake fade on track, would the above discs and pads reduce the rate of fade or would it be useful replacing the fluid and putting some race type fluid?

Bear in mind I want to use standard calipers at the mo, not 4 pots

Cheers

Rob

2 live
26-02-2007, 21:40
i have the 2500s i believe...not exactly sure tbh, as the box jus said ds series on it, and they were recommended by a local factors. they are all red, the metal, and the outer sides of the pad surface.

iv had this set up on for oulton and brunters...never had a bit of fade at all. well impressed tbh.


have braided lines and dot 4 too.

ur welcome to give em a try if u like.

richy
26-02-2007, 22:14
my 16v came with ds2000 pads, they was ok but not a patch on the 4pots! :wink:

FlamingMonkey
26-02-2007, 22:44
Jon I think mine are those ones, need to clear the shit out from under the stairs to find out :P

Should I be taking brake advice off you, you never use them :lol:

Do the braided lines make a difference then?

richy 4 pots are ideal but im a pez :D

northy
27-02-2007, 09:04
After driving the cup racer rob, all u need to do is remove the fogs and get some ducting to the calipers.....mine run totally standard pads and disks and at cadwell i was locking up with no fad at all....

Im sure you could make them fade if abused....

Get a fog light duct and make something similar to the valver wishbone ducts and thats more or less the set up i run.

2 live
27-02-2007, 10:18
my 16v came with ds2000 pads, they was ok but not a patch on the 4pots! :wink:

tbh........like iv said before.following flan and the nana, and martin who all had/have 4 pots....id say that the std set up isnt as bad as u might think lol. iv pretty much kept with em under braking for corners etc.

J o n
27-02-2007, 10:53
dont get Brembo Max imo Rob, I found them shite tbh and they didn't last too long either.

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 13:16
Sounds a good idea Northy, Im gonna try that.

Now who was it who could get cheap pads and discs from halfrauds ;)

2 live
27-02-2007, 13:53
dunno who that wud b mate.





lol



shudda sed.i was there yest.

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 13:56
dunno who that wud b mate.





lol



shudda sed.i was there yest.

if your going again, i need the full shebang almost, if your not going anytime soon Ill bob down the motor factors at the weekend or summat

2 live
27-02-2007, 15:20
give us a bell at weekend.wel sort summat out.

Martin
27-02-2007, 15:54
only times i had 4 pots was on the nana and tbh I did'nt notice a big difference......to the stnd ish setup i had on my hybrid & willy 2.

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 17:39
give us a bell at weekend.wel sort summat out.

Got a quote for £140 for the lot, front and rear discs, front and rear pads, plus bearings

Might take them up on that unless you know you can get them cheaper Jon?

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 18:06
Just checked the pads I have, they are DS2000's

richy
27-02-2007, 19:24
my 16v came with ds2000 pads, they was ok but not a patch on the 4pots! :wink:

tbh........like iv said before.following flan and the nana, and martin who all had/have 4 pots....id say that the std set up isnt as bad as u might think lol. iv pretty much kept with em under braking for corners etc.

i know what your saying but on every clio ive had the std brakes even with running mintex 1144 pads/ebc greenstuff and ds2000 have never been as good as the 4pots, the ONLY advantage i have found is std dont squeel much!

stew
27-02-2007, 19:40
my std calipers squeal like fook with ebc kevlar pads when cold. and they were well copper greased up when put in.

imo 4 pots are better, chasing gaz round cadwell showed me that. he had much more confidence in his brakes, didnt stop me tryin tho.

would love to get some 4 pots, but need to test out my current setup before i decide. gonna get some decent air ducts to the brakes to try to prevent fade.

Justin..
27-02-2007, 20:18
i have the 2500s i believe...not exactly sure tbh, as the box jus said ds series on it, and they were recommended by a local factors. they are all red, the metal, and the outer sides of the pad surface.

iv had this set up on for oulton and brunters...never had a bit of fade at all. well impressed tbh.


have braided lines and dot 4 too.

ur welcome to give em a try if u like.


i've got ds2500's but theyre not red

2 live
27-02-2007, 21:27
hmmm.....wot bout the ds2000s rob?? they red??



iirc it was about £100 for complete set o discs pads..will bell em tomoro n get a price.

2 live
27-02-2007, 21:29
btw the ferrodos cost me £35 for the front set of pads

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 21:42
Jon if you could fella I would appreciate it, dont forget i need bearings too if they do them.

These are my ferodos got them from fleabay for about 14quid about a year ago

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/flamingmonkey/Williams/DSCF2695.jpg

Justin..
27-02-2007, 21:49
:shock: maybe i have 2000's then cos i got them from ebay for that price :? my mistake 2 live!

2 live
27-02-2007, 21:49
nope.........fuk all like mine lol.

mine are all red, except the face of the pad in contact with the disc..


awesome stopping power tho, altho the pedal does have quite a bit of travel to what it was......yoz didnt like it cos the travel stopped him heel/toeing. but i dont bother wi that shit lol.

richy
27-02-2007, 22:46
rob them ds2000 are exact same as what i had before the 4pots, still got my pads in the garage!

Swervin_Mervin
27-02-2007, 23:26
I have DS2500 and they're not red. :?

My experience of them on track? Same as 2Live. Elvington was the biggest test and I've done that place twice and never suffered fade. Number of cars I've caught under braking is also high. Other than that I use std Renault discs front and rear and std rear pads.

ULF has had the fogs removed now and I just need to sort some trunking. 8)

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 23:26
rob them ds2000 are exact same as what i had before the 4pots, still got my pads in the garage!

Cool any good then?

Cant really complain for the price, gotta be better than standard

richy
27-02-2007, 23:32
there ok, better then the ebc shite! but as said the 4pots are better imo

FlamingMonkey
27-02-2007, 23:38
Yeah 4 pots would be great, im going to see how these go and then make a decision as to whether to spend the $$$

richy
27-02-2007, 23:46
yeah not saying you shouldnt try them, after all it is cheaper to just chuck a set of pads in first off!!

Bayliss
27-02-2007, 23:57
After driving the cup racer rob, all u need to do is remove the fogs and get some ducting to the calipers.....mine run totally standard pads and disks and at cadwell i was locking up with no fad at all....

Im sure you could make them fade if abused....

Get a fog light duct and make something similar to the valver wishbone ducts and thats more or less the set up i run.

you don't drive fast enough northy to get the brakes warm so how do u expect them to fade :lol: :lol:

stew
28-02-2007, 00:44
hehe

expected that from someone...

:P