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Zollo
07-02-2007, 10:04
Anyone else heard rumours of this? Clio 197 with a Megane 225 engine, and a limited-slip diff' too. Would be :twisted:

...or is it just me...

J o n
07-02-2007, 10:08
apparently it's bollox

Zollo
07-02-2007, 10:21
What, the rumours or the car?!

Would be very surprised if they did do it to be honest. Although I did read it in Autocar so it must be true :roll:

Flan
07-02-2007, 10:32
Didn't Yozza have a look into puiing it in a 182 shape but the mounts were totaly different and the box was to big. Maybe the 197 is totaly different...


But remember you can fit "anything" in a clio with enough time and money :wink:

matty w
07-02-2007, 12:47
it would probably go straight in the 197 as it uses the same wide face block as the 225 and the gearboxes are probably the same,nissan gearboxes i think

Smudger
07-02-2007, 13:03
im sure they showed a pic of a clio on Top Gear on sunday with the the F1 drivers standing round it??

that looked like something a bit more special than a normal 197

rob16v
07-02-2007, 13:04
yeh they said it had a stiffer chassis than the normal one poss new trophy??

Chris n`nic
07-02-2007, 13:05
That is the new one with the diff. Renault have said there will be other changes to be announced but seeing as they have just released the Megane version I can't see them bringing this out

Chris

Zollo
07-02-2007, 13:18
im sure they showed a pic of a clio on Top Gear on sunday with the the F1 drivers standing round it??

that looked like something a bit more special than a normal 197

That'll be the Renault Clio Renaultsport 197 F1 Team R27... Renault F1 Team World Champions Special Edition Cup Version 1. Or something :roll:

Same power, but with different springs, dampers, wheels. Plus sexy Recaro seats and some natty F1 graphics.

A turbo version will be a loooong way off, if at all...

clowo16v
07-02-2007, 13:38
I'd rather have a new 197 cup racer lol they're stunning cars cheap as chips too.

Matt

wavy
07-02-2007, 13:54
That'll be the Renault Clio Renaultsport 197 F1 Team R27... Renault F1 Team World Champions Special Edition Cup Version 1. Or something

:lol: just off the top of your head :lol:

J o n
07-02-2007, 14:04
What, the rumours or the car?!

Would be very surprised if they did do it to be honest. Although I did read it in Autocar so it must be true :roll:

both lol.

they wont bring out a turbo until they see a drop in sales and unwillingness to upgrade to newer models... so maybe the next (Mk4?) Clio will have a turbo, but they wont do it on this chassis platform, it makes no sense, it would totally eclipse the current 197 and how would the insurance work, it would have to be group 18-20 with a big power increase... not to mention it would cost more to buy as the engine would be newly developed and not just an F7 with make-up... then there's traction issues... yet more costs... aint gonna happen basically.

TriO`
07-02-2007, 14:08
but the clio's nearly as big as the megane now anyway... and they've turbo'd that

Zollo
07-02-2007, 14:27
then there's traction issues... yet more costs...

Autocar said it would use the LSD from the R26 Megane.

Don't see why it definately wouldn't happen. The Megane will be due for replacement at some point, so will probably get more power/weight then. Which would provide an opportunity for the Clio to move up a notch in terms of performance and price.

It would eclipse the current 197, yes. But then the Williams eclipsed the Valver. And the Focus RS totally eclipsed the ST170. And the Cooper S eclipses the Cooper. And in some peoples eyes the R32 Golf totally eclipses the GTi. So there's room in the market for two versions of the same hot hatch it seems. And people are willing to pay a very large premium (£4k, in the case of the Golf). Insurance? Well, the Willy was Group 17 back in the day when insurance premiums were completely overblown.

Not saying it definately will go ahead. But I wouldn't rule it out completely.

Swervin_Mervin
07-02-2007, 15:16
Only reason I can see it wouldn't happen is if there's a desire to keep it N/A.

Other than that it should drop straight in.

J o n
07-02-2007, 16:50
then there's traction issues... yet more costs...

Autocar said it would use the LSD from the R26 Megane.

Don't see why it definately wouldn't happen. The Megane will be due for replacement at some point, so will probably get more power/weight then. Which would provide an opportunity for the Clio to move up a notch in terms of performance and price.

It would eclipse the current 197, yes. But then the Williams eclipsed the Valver. And the Focus RS totally eclipsed the ST170. And the Cooper S eclipses the Cooper. And in some peoples eyes the R32 Golf totally eclipses the GTi. So there's room in the market for two versions of the same hot hatch it seems. And people are willing to pay a very large premium (£4k, in the case of the Golf). Insurance? Well, the Willy was Group 17 back in the day when insurance premiums were completely overblown.

Not saying it definately will go ahead. But I wouldn't rule it out completely.

Willy is a fairly big step up, but a 197 turbo'd would be a monsterous step up from the current NA engine lol. Like you say, wont be until the Meggy becomes fatter and more powerful, I think the next true Mk4 will possibly be boosted, not on this shape though... it would be nice though, I'd possibly consider one... providing the engine and box are all made by Nissan and not Renault... 6 speed Getrag box out the R34 would be nice :D

nyk
07-02-2007, 16:57
you gotta consider the car class as well.

The clio 197 is in the same group as the Fiesta ST 170, the 206 GTi and such. Its one of the leaders in its class performance wise, so they have no need to upgrade it further.

The megane on the other hand is competing with the likes of the Golf R32, the Focus RS/ST whatever its called these days.

I cant see them making a 225 hp clio tbh, that would be a direct threat to the megane.

The 197 special edition jobby they showed on top gear on sunday is a glorified cup, special edition for the consecutive F1 wins. Same as the Megane F1 special edition.

Zollo
07-02-2007, 17:44
The 197 special edition jobby they showed on top gear on sunday is a glorified cup, special edition for the consecutive F1 wins. Same as the Megane F1 special edition.

Like wot I said :) :wink:

Swervin_Mervin
07-02-2007, 19:03
mk4 probably won't need boosting. Weight on modern cars should start to come down in teh next few years, especially given today's announcament on CO targets by the EU.

All sorts of more sophisitcated construction techniques are being investigated in order to keep cars large for safety but light for economy.

richy
07-02-2007, 19:26
renault wont turbo a clio, will proberly be a long time before they do!

chamanne
07-11-2009, 18:17
Maybe...

But, here, in France, we are doing it :

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/51304/00c49d9717aa8aeaadb482ccfd0cfe0a.jpg
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/51304/dsc02593ti6.jpg

And an other one :

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/51304/photos005165d660.jpg


:wink:
Franck

schakal
07-11-2009, 18:24
nice work frank 8)
friend of mine in cyprus is trying to fit one of these
into a R11 also :twisted:

1995clio16v
07-11-2009, 18:28
Are those wheels off a Laguna? I like! 8) :o

volymmannen
07-11-2009, 18:40
Are those wheels off a Laguna? I like! 8) :o
yes 17" silverstone

chamanne
07-11-2009, 18:48
nice work frank 8)
friend of mine in cyprus is trying to fit one of these
into a R11 also :twisted:

It's not my job.

I'm doing the swap in an Express pick-up :roll:

midge
07-11-2009, 19:26
isnt that engine basically the same as the volvo t4 unit?

Matty86
07-11-2009, 20:19
oh my! :oops:

I want that purely for the win gearbox!!



any more info on it? is there a build thread?

robi1000
08-11-2009, 23:02
This is the thread from Chamanne. My French is only slightly better then Google translate...

http://www.clio-williams.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33091&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

If I understood correctly, he wanted to put it into Express or Clio, but then he gave up. This yellow/grey clio is from someone else, but they could not find the project thread.

white16valver
03-12-2009, 14:05
That's awesome!

Wouldn't it be a bit front-heavy though?

chamanne
03-12-2009, 14:35
All is there now :


http://www.clio-williams.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35749


Chamanne

robi1000
03-12-2009, 15:59
\:D/

I'll be following your thread so keep it updated! :D

chamanne
04-12-2009, 08:37
\:D/

I'll be following your thread so keep it updated! :D

Ok, friend. 8)