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Matty86
15-01-2007, 00:50
a while ago my temp display stopped lighting up, so i replaced the bulb, whilst i was there i saw there was no bulb for the abs. i plugged one in and sure enough it just stayed lit.. but only for 2-3 days. has been perfect ever since...

now I did a test the other day and just slamming the brakes on stops me from 70mph in about 25m. Now to me this is excellent and i couldn't see myself stopping quicker if i tried (without abs) and i can obviously control the car better with it too

so why do I always hear people slating the mk1 abs system? I've never had it cut in unexpectedly either.

Running standard (afaik) brakes and Eagle F1 tyres

Bayliss
15-01-2007, 01:02
i love abs, it's traction control i hate

MatBrown
15-01-2007, 01:45
so why do I always hear people slating the mk1 abs system? I've never had it cut in unexpectedly either.


Give it time.



Mat.

Matty86
15-01-2007, 01:49
it's had 14 years ;)

Purple
15-01-2007, 06:16
In my case, I only hate ABS when the other car I own does not have one. My brain don't work fast enough in sudden emergency braking to remember whether to slam on the brakes (abs) or to pump the brakes (non-abs). Other than that, I reckon abs has saved me twice (in a scooby) in situations where I would not have time to react and pump in a non-abs car.

Martin
15-01-2007, 06:24
abs on the road = good

abs on track = poo

Danlp6
15-01-2007, 08:27
ABS is what killed my 172.

I would have stopped intime if the abs hadnt kicked in.

Swervin_Mervin
15-01-2007, 09:04
ABS is fine in that rarest of situations where you need to swerve to avoid something when you can't stop in time. It doesn't help you stop sooner. In fact it actually prolongs braking distances in most cases.

It also doesn't help on track and I was lucky I happened to be pointing at a gap in the hay bales at Cadwell when mine cut in and I sailed off teh track.

MAXIBOY
15-01-2007, 12:59
good abs can half your braking distances avoid lock ups and means you can avoid things while braking. the clio abs system is pants

Swervin_Mervin
15-01-2007, 14:45
Since when does it halve braking distances? I suppose the very latest expensive systems might be able to but I doubt it.

MAXIBOY
15-01-2007, 18:45
did a project on abs for my degree. abs on the bmw,s was shown to halve breaking distances on damp and wet roads over normal breaking. that does not mean with a good driver using the cadence technique just stamping on the stop pedal

Swervin_Mervin
15-01-2007, 19:00
Ah, on wet roads. I was assuming dry, soz.

MAXIBOY
15-01-2007, 19:28
wet roads crap driver abs= good otherwise abs= pants

bill.
24-01-2007, 16:56
so how easy is it to diconnect abs? is it possible to disconnect it and reconnect it say for trak use?

Swervin_Mervin
24-01-2007, 19:07
Yes. Just remove the fuse from the fusebox under the glove box.

bill.
25-01-2007, 15:45
cheers bud, i'll bear that one in mind :D

Swervin_Mervin
25-01-2007, 16:22
I tend to leave it in when on track, until the brakes are warmed up and it starts cutting in.

When it starts cutting in (ie when you start piling straight on at corners!) then it's time to remove teh fuse. :P

BRUN
29-01-2007, 19:54
mine sometimes cuts in when braking over grids/bad bits of road, and means you nearly go into the back of the car in front, have to be careful when braking over a grid :shock: