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AmDaMan
25-12-2006, 20:58
Hey peeps, hope you had a merry Christmas!

Right then, Ronsvalver is coming to help me swap the engine over on Wednesday! Just a few questions though:

1) What's involved in the wiring side of things?

2) Can I use the 1.4 fuel pump?

That's basically it, is there anything else I should know about this conversion?

cliolord
25-12-2006, 21:18
Hey peeps, hope you had a merry Christmas!

Right then, Ronsvalver is coming to help me swap the engine over on Wednesday! Just a few questions though:

1) What's involved in the wiring side of things?

2) Can I use the 1.4 fuel pump?

That's basically it, is there anything else I should know about this conversion?

alright mate. personally i havent done this conversion before but im guessing you will need a 16v loom, ecu and a jb/jc3 gearbox. Engine mounts obviously. I'm sure the 1.4 fuel pump will be ok as its not a forced induction setup (i.e; turbo). You WILL need a 16v bonnet as the standard bonnet wont close unless you slam it which causes a big dent in the bonnet and scratch's the inlet manifold lol

Lunner
25-12-2006, 21:19
i think you may well need the 16v fuel pump mate

Also 16v front springs unless its lowered as the 1.4's wont' take the extra weight

Winston
25-12-2006, 21:27
Pump should be fine ....if it's a 1.2bar?

92-93 valvers use a 1.2bar fuel pump

Later valvers have a 3bar

cliolord
25-12-2006, 22:04
Pump should be fine ....if it's a 1.2bar?

92-93 valvers use a 1.2bar fuel pump

Later valvers have a 3bar

why the hell did they change it for? :lol:

AmDaMan
25-12-2006, 22:49
hi folks, I have the complete donor valver sitting on my drive ready to be butchered, luckily.

It's a 91 Valver, mine is a 94! So the fuel pump is the all-in-one pump/sender unit.

How does the valver loom connect?

AmDaMan
27-12-2006, 16:59
anyone?

Lunner
27-12-2006, 17:00
Engine and ECU loom is seperate to car loom, all plugs in under a black box in the n/s wing, just infront of the suspension turret

Lunner
27-12-2006, 17:01
Shoudl just be plug and play, AFAIKall the clio car looms were the same, my 1.2 certainly had valver temp sensor plugs etc on it

AmDaMan
27-12-2006, 20:45
yup cheers mate, found out today when we were butchering the loom :D

AmDaMan
27-12-2006, 20:50
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/918/img3456kn6.jpg

wait, hang on where is the engine? ha ha.

Few questions:

How hard is the head gasket to do, is it worth doing when the engine is out?

Can the valver gauges be but in the 1.4?

Is the 1.4 speedo cable compatible with the valver engine?

cheers.

stan
27-12-2006, 20:53
Car looms vary...if it doesnt start, it will be the fuel pump feed from the ecu, or the ign live to the ecu not being connected. either is reaonably easy to resolve.

Winston, you sure about that fuel pump quote, earlier ones being 1.2bar? EFI requires circa 3bar to operate.

AmDaMan
27-12-2006, 20:55
God damn lack of edit button!

4) Do I need the power steering rack and pump and reservoir off the valver too? Bearing in mind mine already has power steering but is mounted a bit differently!

Lunner
27-12-2006, 21:18
Pump will be on the engne, but you'll need the res and piping

Winston
27-12-2006, 22:23
Car looms vary...if it doesnt start, it will be the fuel pump feed from the ecu, or the ign live to the ecu not being connected. either is reaonably easy to resolve.

Winston, you sure about that fuel pump quote, earlier ones being 1.2bar? EFI requires circa 3bar to operate.

I shit you not!!!!

All Ph1.5's ive removed the pump from ...have been 1.2bar :?

lewis_willy2
27-12-2006, 22:45
yes i think u will need the power steering rack. depending if you want powersteering. the colomns i think are the same. correct me if im wrong tho someone.
im currently doin this conversion for a m8. taking ages due to not having enough light after work tho. its an easy conversion. best thing to do is get a donor car drop the subframe and swap all of it!!!

AmDaMan
28-12-2006, 11:28
next question.. this is where the loom connects isn't it? Look opn the valver though it has more connections on the white plug.. what are they for?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6666/img3457xc6.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3705/img3458om6.jpg

theres only 2 black wires on the 1.4?[/img]