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cliorod
14-12-2006, 19:47
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture437.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture436.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture435-1.jpg.
Just thought I would show you this :lol: :lol:
It is as near a replica of the "Works" Gp A gearbox mount :wink: :wink: .
I bought a R19 mount,a couple of bottom arm bushes,some machining and welding,and there you have it,I supplied the bits :wink: :wink: .My mate did the rest £50 :wink: :wink: ~~ a snip considering the "Proper" one is in the region of £300/400.
To mount it,you need to have a coulpe of "L" shaped brackets welded on top of the subframe, ~~ Then forget about gearbox mounts for good.
Not sure,whether it clears the Power steering rack :cry: :cry: ,but it could be modded if required.Mine has no power steering

stew
14-12-2006, 19:54
nice one rod

let us know the results.

snowman
15-12-2006, 15:13
hmmm,you beat me to it,was gonna weld one up myself,looks good,keep us informed with the results matey

Hulio
15-12-2006, 15:46
Nice.

northy
15-12-2006, 21:44
very nice.

can u show me where its fitted please... ? :oops:

cliorod
15-12-2006, 23:08
Ok,will bolt it onto the gearbox and take some pictures,also I will take one of the modification to the subframe :roll: :wink: .
Be sometime this weekend.
Rod.

MAXIBOY
16-12-2006, 00:14
can someone confirm that the renault megane has some thing similar with a damper fitted to it

northy
16-12-2006, 10:21
oh no - not rolley eyes Rod.

Carnt work out where this would go....least im being brave asking :o

MAXIBOY
16-12-2006, 11:05
where the dog bone bolts to the gearbox. between there and the subframe.

stan
16-12-2006, 11:08
I cant say i remember a damper Maxiboy....may be mistaken tho.

Good effort Rod :D

northy
16-12-2006, 11:08
8)

MAXIBOY
16-12-2006, 17:14
well just looked it up to make sure.megane rear mount has a lower dog bone mount like the clio but has a damper from the top to a bracket on the subframe. might see if i can find one and mod it to fit a clio

cliorod
16-12-2006, 21:36
Carn't be arsed watching X~Factor,now Ben has lost out to the Little Scouser :cry: :cry: ,So after a HUGE Jameson's "n" ice or two (hic) :lol: :lol: decide d to try and put some more pics up for you.
Two are from the Grp "A" catalogue ~~ showing the bracket,that bolts/welds on the top of the subframe :wink: :wink: ,easy to do,
The next two are the ones fixing it to the gearbox,apologies if they are not too good,but I think you clever people will get the gist of where it goes
.http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture438.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture439.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture440.jpg

In the last picture the hole in the box is where the speedo cable goes I think,This is a JB3 014 box,I have just had rebuilt,and is for my spare car (Irish Tarmac Racer :wink: ) :wink:

MatBrown
17-12-2006, 02:13
So it bolts on in place of the black bracket we have.



Mat.

cliorod
17-12-2006, 02:34
Hi Mat,
Just had look at my Haynes manual,the dogbone,looks to bolt below the subframe,whereas this arrangement bolts above it,so effectively you can get rid of the old mount :roll: :roll:
If it stops P**sing sdown during today,and I aint too hung over :oops: :oops: ,I will take a picture of the actual subframe in situ on the Irish car :wink: :wink:

stan
17-12-2006, 11:54
Matt,
This mount actually supports the weight of the engine, rather than stabalising the engine.

david932
19-12-2006, 18:53
^^ isn't supporting it and stabilising it the same thing? :?

Justin..
19-12-2006, 19:05
no. supporting means it has weight downward/pushing force on it , where as stabilising means its just holding it steady

david932
19-12-2006, 23:29
surely in that respect it's better to support than stabalise isn't it?

Justin..
19-12-2006, 23:31
not realy i would have thought when that mount isnt designed for support i would say. might be wrong tho.

cliorod
20-12-2006, 01:06
Whether it supports or stabilises :o :o ,It worked quiet well for the Grp "A" Rally Clios,Maxi Clios and the MAXI Meganes :lol: :lol: .
I have an original set,which has a cast aluminium piece,instead of the steel one used here.To get the best results,it needs the other two R19 engine mounts as described in "Gunners" thread elsewhere.

Justin..
20-12-2006, 01:07
true they wouldnt use it otherwise, get fabricatingand make a mint :wink:


where this pic of your subframe ?

dimkais
20-12-2006, 07:50
These are the mounts.They are definetely not for a daily car as you are shaking all the way.The set of those three mounts is more than 1k but they are no longer available.If you have any questions of how they fit or anything else i can take some fotos to see how it fits...

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/25112254396.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3353562)

MAXIBOY
20-12-2006, 20:01
the main reason for the mounts though is that the group A cars were able to be worked on easier as they had no top mountings allowing cams and head etc much easier access for repairs etc

cliorod
20-12-2006, 23:19
As DIMKAIS says,not really for daily use :cry: ,as well as costing £1400 plus vat :oops: ,if you still want power steering you need this little set up,unless you modify the rear mounting http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/Cliorod/Picture442.jpg.
The pump alone costs £1600 plus :cry: :cry: so not a really cheap conversion.

Maxi ~~ In International Rallying,you are not allowed to alter/change the internals of an engine,once the event has started ie cams/valves/heads etc.only the ancillaries,Transmission is ok :wink:

Winston
21-12-2006, 03:24
^^Thats cooool!!!!^^ :shock: :shock: :shock: :P