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VIPERONE
23-11-2006, 18:06
Had the pleasure of driving through the Trough of Bowland today.. prob best driving route ive been on,, would be awesome in a clio Willy..lol

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the b road in yellow

VIPERONE
23-11-2006, 18:07
its not the b road in yellow-bring back the edit button lol

northy
23-11-2006, 18:33
one for a martin meet is this !

cliorod
23-11-2006, 18:44
Gunner ya pussy :lol: :roll: :lol: ,go on the one from from Slaidburn,next road over to the right as you look at the OS map,lots of drops and things :wink: :cry: :wink: .
There was a guy in the old road rally days :cry: :cry: ,Cyril Bolton/Ian Grindrod in the Mini Sport Mini 1480cc :twisted: I think.Was the fastest ever over there,beat everybody in there BDA Escorts,2300 Chevette Twin Cams ~~ he was just awesome :wink:
Rod

northy
23-11-2006, 18:48
Think we need a Rod meet ! :lol:

McPikie
23-11-2006, 21:03
I am gonna bring my pipe and slippers to the next meet....................



You all drive like uber ghey-lords.

Even my bird wanted to go fast over the hills :lol:

MrAtego
23-11-2006, 21:33
Suggested this route for christmas run but got ignored :(

fasterthanjesus
23-11-2006, 22:13
id be up for meeting at anypoint, im at the lancaster end of the trough.

Coops
23-11-2006, 22:18
willy? what willy? :P :wink:

Coops
23-11-2006, 22:18
dammit dammit we NEED this edit button i just made a fool of myself again! :oops:

2 live
24-11-2006, 09:00
quite few times trough has been put forward for a run.....always gets ignored tho..........fantastic roads too.

northy
24-11-2006, 09:01
sort it out then lads.... :wink:

2 live
24-11-2006, 09:13
u are the leader.......get it organised ;)

northy
24-11-2006, 09:26
ok.

Martin
24-11-2006, 09:49
Me and Si suggested this route for the xmas run but we were ignored :roll: ....I did a recce a while back!

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12022&highlight=

northy
24-11-2006, 10:29
lol, sorry mate. Anychance we could get this in next weekend instead of doing the peaks ????

Martin
24-11-2006, 10:37
tbh it's a bit late to change....and it needs an early start to make the most of it imo

One for next year maybe

northy
24-11-2006, 10:40
ok - a martin run in Feb 07 !

fasterthanjesus
24-11-2006, 12:57
as long as it doesnt clash with "cliorods" navigation run.

Swervin_Mervin
24-11-2006, 14:59
The best road in britain. Feel free to cut and paste fellas.


1. (S) A41 south from Chester,then turn left at a small roundabout, east on the A534 to Nantwich

2. (S) The A494 Mold to Ruthin

3. (S) The Fosse Way heading south from Warwickshire area towards Chester. Also the road between Corwen and Bangor in Wales.

4. A5 west of Telford into Snowdonia – heavily ploddified with some Gatsos. Safer to wait until it gets twisty, or till nightfall. **

5. (S) The A1120 that runs between the A14 and A12 is a good drive. It's about 25 miles and winds through a few villages (lovely pubs!) but also offers challenging corners, steep descents and a few lovely straights. (Near Ipswich)

6. A57 Snake Pass in Derbyshire – superb road, excellent tarmac, but very busy so best done at night or early in the morning. There’s a 50 stretch part way through which is popular with plod and sightseers, so slow down ***

7. (S) A814 ... Helensburgh to Arroch. This is actually a B road by any other name. It
twists, it turns it has up and downs, it's a roller coaster of a road. I drove it more
than 10 years ago, after getting lost, and still fondly remember the number of
times I said " Bloody hell" along it. The crowning feature though is if you
mistakenly take a right turn at the roundabout at the end of it... then you end up crashing through the heavily armed sentries guarding Faslane nuclear submarine
base and being shot to death .. what a thrilling end to a great road!”

8. A483 north from Builth Wells – an excellent Welsh A road with plenty of sweeping bends, a fair stretch uphill, and enough twisty stuff to give some variety. Well surfaced, moderate visibility. ***

9. The B526 off the A509 is not quite as fast but is more twisty, less busy, and has less risk of unmarked plod cars. *

10. B4343 Tregaron to Devil’s Bridge in Wales, also the B4574 near Devil’s Bridge. Both good Welsh B roads, very twisty, very quiet, beautiful scenery, but with nice road surfaces too. ***

11. B660 from Bedford to Peterborough aka “The Nurburgring”. The archetypal English country road, this one is a real challenge for car and driver. A tough mixture of twisty bits, fast ton-up open sweepers with good visibility, off camber bends, and atrocious road surfacing in parts make it very tricky in the wet so take care (see how many cars you can spot stuffed into the ditches). Nice long straights at the north end with perfect visibility, punctuated with tight 90 degree turns which are ideal for low speed oversteer exits – excellent place to just floor it, but make sure you slow down when you approach the buildings at each end of this section. Very bumpy though, and cars with stiff suspension will get airborne quite easily, making this is the only stretch of road where I’ve seen a 911 go slower than a Ford Focus. Plod starting to show up more round here so watch it ****

12. (S) B4525 between Banbury and the A43

13. The B645 St Neots to Higham Ferrers aka “Spa” – an excellent B road with lots of twisties, open sweepers, and the good visibility typical of Fenland roads. Similar to the B660 but a little more busy and not quite as epic. Watch for plod ***

14. B1443 Thorney to Glinton aka “The Mulsanne Straight”. If getting airborne in excess of 120 is your thing (and going fast without endangering other road users), this is the road for you. Once you get out of the villages, the road is straight for as far as the eye can see, giving perfect visibility, and if it’s empty you can go as fast as you dare. Above 100 most cars will start jumping into the air over the very bumpy surface, so wait till the road is empty and put the car in the middle over the white lines to avoid stuffing it into a ditch, then put the pedal to the metal and cling on for dear life! God help you if plod catches you though, and please save any antics for when it is totally empty (best late at night).****

15. (S) B4116 (Atherstone/E Birmingham)

16. (S) A386 scottish highlands, best bit from Thurso to Ullapool

17. (S) Uxbridge to Slough on the (I think) A4020 - turn right off the dual carriageway at Black Park Country Park - that's a nice short 2-3 mile twisty

18. (S) Portsmouth: the best roads near here are those around Droxford, Clanfield, Hordean etc. The road from Chi to Selsey's not bad either.

19. (S) S Wales – between St Clears and Kilgety (the forest stretch) and the old road next to the bypass.

20. (S) Denton/Wallaston (Bedford)

21. (S) Uxbridge area: Bangors lane from Iver to Iver Heath. Pinewood studios to Fulmer (near J2 of the M40).

22. (S) A525 Whitchurch to Wrexham

23. (S) Cardiff to Prestatyn

24. (S) A272

25. (S) A686 Penrith to Alston, Penrith to Heydon Bridge

26. (S) A59 Liverpool York

27. (S) South of France – col de Turini

28. (S) Coast road from Larne up to the North Antrim coast (Giants Causeway etc)

29. (S) A487 west coast of Wales – excellent scenery, a pretty fast road with lots of sweepers, unfortunately usually quite busy **

30. A44 Oxford to Aberystwyth. One of the greatest touring roads in the UK, starting with gentle fast sweepers NW of Oxford, through lovely Cotswolds scenery, then becoming progressively more twisty (but still fast) as you approach Wales. The section from Llangurig going west through the mountains is superb and very fast. In England the road can be quite busy and is difficult to overtake on at times, plod is sometimes on the lookout, and there are a couple of Gatsos in Oxfordshire so best late at night with a good radar detector ****

31. (S) Roads in NW of Scotland e.g. single track road north out of Lochinver

32. (S) Carronbridge to Bannockburn

33. (S) A93 from Perth to Braemar, then either past Balmoral to Banchory and hack to Stonehaven, then down the coast road to Dundee. Or much better up to Lecht, Tomintoul, Grantown and back south on the A9 (watch for Gatsos). (note – this is where Evo magazine did one of their car of the year tests)

34. (S) B1176 between Grantha, and Spalding (be careful at the middle bit to make sure you stay on the B1176)

35. (S) B1145 between King’s Lynn and Norwich which runs parallel to the A47.

36. (S) Road cutting through Thetford forest between Watton and the A11.

37. (S) Norwich to Mulbarton and beyond on the B1113, then turn off onto the B1135 when you see the sign for Lotus Cars. Follow the road till you hit the roundabout (A11) then turn round and come all the way back.”

38. (S) A701 Moffat to Blythe bridge in Scotland

39. (S) Meon Valley in Hampshire

40. (S) A456 from Birmingham, through Hagley, to Kidderminster

41. (S) A448 Halgey to Bromsgrove

42. (S) A4103 from Worcester to Hereford esp Frome’s hill

43. A49 Whitchurch to Hereford. Similar to the A44, but usually a little quieter. Another excellent sweeping, twisting A road with an excellent road surface. **

44. Buttertubs pass in the Yorkshire Dales - a short C road from Hawes to Thwaite – superb and quite challenging with steep climbs & descents. Rated best road in Britain by Jeremy Clarkson ****

45. Cat & Fiddle run over in the Pennines on the A537 Buxton to Macclesfield – a superb twisty road with lots of short straights punctuated by sharp turns and several hairpins for practising your handbrake turns (j/k). Best done uphill west to east if your car has the power; E to W downhill can be hard on the brakes. Can get very busy. Unfortunately now very heavily plodified - including a plod spotter plane! So watch out and best to go in the small hours. Takes about 8 mins in a quick car ***

46. B6318 from Heddon on the Wall to Greenhead parallel to Hadrian’s Wall in Northumberland. A very fast mainly straight road with LOTS of crests which you can jump off if you are brave/stupid enough to do so (many have poor visibility). When I went up there were about 2 or 3 humps that you could see over and were therefore safe to jump from. It is very easy to bottom out on this road too. IMO, too risky to other people to be a good road to go fast on. *

47. A481 NE of Builth Wells – another excellent sweeping A road, quite twisty in parts, with a few fast sweepers **

48. (S) A590 from M6 J36 to A5092 in the south of the Lake District

49. (S) A595 Carlisle to A5092 in the south of the Lake District

50. (S) A686 Haydon Bridge to Penrith

51. (S) B6232 Ramsbottom to Blackburn

52. (S) A515 Buxton to Ashbourne

53. (S) A6 Chapel-en-le-Frith bypass – a very fast road indeed through the hills & mountains. Good road surface, width and visibility. There is one section of incredibly fast sweepers you can take at silly speeds, there's even a “suicide” shared overtaking lane which comes in useful when the road is empty. Watch out for plod though because this is busy-ish during the day and a major A road in the area. Best done late at night. **

54. C road south alongside the River Towi, past Lake Brianne and down to Ystrad Ffin, on through Cilycwm and finishing at Llandovery – a superb twisty unclassified road, challenging like the nearby Devil’s Staircase, but more open allowing higher speeds to be achieved. This road is full of great corners and extremely atmospheric forest and hill sections, with many climbs & descents to add variety. One of the best roads in the country. ****

55. (S) A52 Nottingham to Boston

56. (S) A429 Warwick to Cirencester – again, a busy A road so law enforcement problems. Nice enough but nothing special *

57. (S) A30 Salisbury to Chard

58. (S) A43 Duddington to Corby

59. Ambleside to Broughton-in-Furness A593 – too busy during the day, otherwise an excellent well-surfaced road ***

60. (S) A83 Arrochar to Inverary, particularly up Glen Croe, then down Glen Kinglas to Loch Fyne

61. (S) Peak District A5004 Buxton to Whaley Bridge

62. B6105 north of Glossop – a tough little B road, very twisty with some fast stretches ***

63. (S) A623 Tideswell moor road between Chapel and Stoney Middleton

64. (S) A7 Galashiels to Edinburgh (note – now reputedly gatsoed and quite heavily policed – I would appreciate more info on this from any locals)

65. (S) A4212 Bala to Trawsfynydd past Llyn Celyn resevoir

66. B4401 just NE of Bala going to Corwen – a good twisty B road with excellent road surfacing ***

67. (S) A272/283 Petersfield towards Brighton

68. A360, A342 around Salisbury plain –quite fast in places, watch out for the tanks! *

69. (S) B4100 Warwick to Banbury

70. (S) Isle of Wight A3055

71. (S) A74 Carlisle to Glasgow

72. (S) A31 Winchester to Guildford

73. (S) Unclassified from Ambleside to A592, then A592 to Ullswater

74. (S) B1098 in the fens behind Chatteris

75. (S) B1104 north of Newmarket

76. (S) A6121 Bourne to Stamford

77. A15 Bourne to Lincoln – fast road, can be busy & plodified, good visibility and a fair amount of twists and turns. Quite tricky at night so be careful. **

78. B4027 just north of Oxford – can get busy at rush hour, but otherwise a typical twisty English B road **

79. (S) A66 across the Pennines, Scotch Corner to Workington – very fast, and likely to attract law enforcement.

80. (S) B6254 (off A65)

81. A684 Kendal to Northallerton – superb Dales road, only marred by lack of overtaking opportunities and too much traffic in places. Superb variety, twisty corners, high speed sweepers, dips, crests, steep gradients and tight uphill turns. Like the rest of the Dales roads, watch out for plod in unmarked Scoobs ****

82. (S) A601 (M) (anyone know where this is?)

83. (S) A817 Loch Lomond to Garelochhead

84. (S) A169 Pickering to Whitby

85. (S) B5035 Cromford to Ashbourne

86. (S) B869 from Lochinver and back to the A894

87. A283 Mousehill to Boxgrove nr Chichester. The roads round here get very crowded and enforcement is relatively heavy, but this is a good local choice when it's quiet. *

88. A624 Peak district nr Glossop - good road, too much traffic though *

89. (S) The small roads in the triangle formed by the A428, A509, & A45 can be fun.

90. (S) A507 west of Buntingford

91. B6479 N of Settle

92. (S) A9 in Scotland

93. (S) A701 from Moffat to Edinburgh is good fun. Going south there's a sign which says. 'Moffat 41 miles' Start the clock

94. (S) A23 Caterham bypass

95. (S) A835 from Cape Wrath to Ullapool

96. A170 Thirsk to Scarborough – this is a very fast road, lots of great open sweepers. Quite heavy law enforcement now, so watch out. *

97. B1176 Stamford to Grantham - a superb B road, not much traffic, listed as one of the top 5 roads in England by Car magazine. Very very twisty, with lots of dips and crests, and a couple of jumps, the only downside is poor visibility. There are a couple of tightening blind bends so be careful. Suggested by Ev from the Evo forum ***

98. A151 from Spalding west to the A1 – a nice A road, not too busy, lots of twists and turns, some nice sweeping bends, no gatsos so far **

99. B676 west of the A1 to Melton Mowbray – a nice twisty B road, fairly good visibility **

100. (S) Basingstoke to Alton A339 - I've received reports of heavy plodding & bikers white-lining here, so be careful.

101. (S) Strathaven to Muirkirk (A723) south of Glasgow.

102. (S) A592-the Helvellyn bit in particular (more details on this please!)

103. (S) A487 up the west coast of Wales to Balmoral and take the A939 (via 5 miles on the A976) up to Tomintoul, Grantown-on-Spey and Nairn

104. A286 Chichester to Mousehill. Another decent road in this part of the country, still suffers from busyness and plod though. *

105. (S) A414 Welwyn garden city to Hertford

106. (S) B5105 between Ruthin and Cerrigydrudion

107. (S) A339 Basingstoke to Alton, then B3006 on to Liss

108. (S) A31 between Guildford, Surrey and Southampton

109. (S) A458 from Stourbridge to Bridgnorth and into Wales ("a fair candidate for fun...although it is more a procession of moderate bends than the kind of entertainment offered further north" - swparks)

110. (S) Inverness. Follow the A835 from there to Ullapool, and then on up to Rhiconich (A894/A838 past Ullapool again go out along the A832 to Gairloch, and follow the loop around to Achnasheen. Turn off down the A890.

111. (S) Hindhead to Farnham in Surrey– 8 miles of A and B roads

112. (S) A422 from Worcester to Alcester. The final bit from the A441 to Alcester is bonkers

113. (S) A153 Horncastle to Louth in E Lincolnshire

114. (S) A529 from Nantwich through Market Drayton

115. (S) A169 Pickering to Whitby

116. B6270 – a superb road with not too much traffic, across the north Dales. Lots of climbs and descents, loads of twisty bits, not as many sweepers but all round a very good and quite challenging road with superb views and pretty good visibility. Quite often gets snow/ice being so high up. ***

117. (S) The Forest Drive through Dalby, N of York just off B1363

118. (S) B1190 Lincoln to Horncastle

119. (S) A488 from Shrewsbury SW to Knighton

120. (S) B4355, B4356 west of Knighton (Wales)

121. Beulah to Tregaron in Wales – one of the most difficult, scary, but exciting roads in the UK, part of it is nicknamed Devil’s Staircase and for good reason! It is all single track road, in many places so narrow that you have to concentrate just to keep the car from leaving the road. Loads of blind bends and crests, steep uphill hairpins, wandering livestock, and 150ft drops to one side. Be very careful the first time you do it – watch out for foot&mouth disenfectant mats which are v easy to skid on in the wet, slow down for the blind crests, and be careful of one sharp left hander where the road appears to be going straight on up a gravelly path. Best done at night or in early morning. Thanks to Rsquire from scoobynet for this one ****

122. (S) just north of Merthyr Tydfil. Cefn Coed to Talybont on Usk then on the B4558 to Llangynidr and back south to Brynmawr down the B4560 (note – not been on it yet but this is another one from Rsquire so look out! He says “Beware the right hand downhill hairpin at the top of the Torpantau.. Unless you like brown car seats. Again watch for oncoming traffic on summer weekends.")

123. (S) A4069, Llandovery to Brynamman

124. A543 NE from the A5 to Denbigh in N Wales – excellent high speed moorland road, with loads of twists and turns, a great long uphill climb near the start, excellent visibility, long straights, dips and crests, one or two nice sweepers, a couple of near hairpins, and to top it off the scenery is lovely and there is a pub half way through to stop off for grub! Some of the corners are quite challenging especially in the wet, it’s common to see a car stuffed into a ditch here so be careful first time round. The second section is a bit more sedate but still a great twisty country road, albeit with less visibility. Best done going east to Denbigh ****

125. B4501 from Cerrigydrudion on the A5 north to the A543 – another stunning road, starting with a fast uphill straight, then a very twisty section with lots of dips and crests, and after this the road opens up into a sequence of extremely fast open sweepers which you can take as fast as you and your car will dare. There are some side entrances though, so it's an idea to scout the road slowly at first to see where they are so you know when to slow down. The road then gets back into a nice short twisty stretch before finishing as it meets the A543, or you can take a right a bit before and stay on the B road. ****

126. A544 Llanfair Talhaiarn to Bylchau – a good twisty uphill stretch of A road. ***

127. A548 from Llanrwst on the A5 to Abergele – another typical twisty Welsh A road. ***

128. B5113 Pentrefoelas to Colwyn Bay – yet another excellent N Wales hill road ***

129. A470 – great in parts, a bit dull in others, this is still one of the best touring roads in the UK IMO, although more hardcore thrills can be found elsewhere. Contains a mixture of incredibly fast open sweepers, long straights, and also plenty of slate-walled twisties through Snowdonia national park where you can open the window and hear your engine/exhaust note reverberating through the forests. Drawbacks are heavy traffic, sections with boring license-losing long straights and plod out in force, but there are plenty of overtaking spots, loads of variety and lovely scenery to boot. A superb road to drive at night. ****

130. B4518 Rhayader to Llanbrynmair – excellent Welsh B road, not heavily used, lots of twists and turns, climbs and descents, the usual stuff ***

131. B4519 Garth to Upper Chapel – stunning & very fast B road starting with a very twisty uphill ascent, then onto an MOD rifle range for some high speed open moorland charging. Great visibility, changing elevation and little traffic – watch out for the sheep. ****

132. B4520 Brecon to Builth Wells. Another excellent welsh B road, with a superb ascent going south from Builth, then across a good moorland section, then onwards to Brecon. ****

133. A40 Fishguard to London – sadly infected with Gatsos and Sunday drivers on a lot of the English stretch, this is still one of the great UK touring roads, crossing almost the entire width of the country and having some superb stretches. Highlights are the section from Llandovery to Abergavenny, and the twisty stuff in Gloucestershire & Oxfordshire (watch for speed cameras). Too busy during the day, but at night or early morning this is a superb road. ****

134. A466 Monmouth to Chepstow – nice surface, twisty road past the banks of the river Wye & Tintern Abbey. Get's busy during the day though **

135. A4086 Capel Curig to Caernarfon (Pass of Llanberis) – another great Welsh A road through the mountains of Snowdonia ***

136. Fish Hill on the A44 near Broadway just E of Evesham. A very steep hill with a wide road and overtaking lane on the way up, featuring a long straight then a few bends, and finally a mad stretch with several tight bends and hairpins which you can take pretty quick especially if the road is empty and you use the full racing line. Be careful of the last two bends though, as the right hander tightens deceptively, and the final left hand hairpin is very sharp. There’s a roundabout at the bottom making it convenient to turn at the top, go downhill (be careful) and swing around to do it again. Watch out for plod. ****

137. B4035 Evesham to Banbury. Superb Cotswolds B road, lots of twists and turns, exciting bends, crests and dips. Only marred by weekend traffic and lack of overtaking places in parts. Road surface is quite poor making the road quite scary in the wet (aquaplane city). ***

138. B4437 from the A44 through Charlbury. Another cracking Oxfordshire B road, the west section in particular is a riot of fast straights, sharp dips and blind crests, with loads of twists and turns along the way. Be careful coming up to the crossroad junctions though and slow down. Can be a bit tricky in the wet ***

139. B4022 north of Witney. Another good B road with dips, crests, and twisty stuff along the way. ***

140. B4026 and A361 south of Chipping Norton. More good country roads. **

141. B 4030 W from Bicester, B 4031 running parallel a few miles north. Yet more excellent B roads. **

142. B4507 Wantage to Ashbury. A pretty challenging B road, this one has a great mix of big dips and crests, winding sections with blind corners, short straights and a rough surface which puts a premium on grip especially in the wet. Very tough to overtake on, so best to go when it’s quiet. Slow down for the junctions ****

143. B4494 Newbury to Wantage. Another good B road, reasonably good visibility, pretty fast in places. **

144. B4000/B4001 just north of Lambourn – nice B roads featuring some fast sections, with good visibility and not much traffic. **

145. B4009 Newbury to Wendover. A good stretch of B road, marred by several 50 zones and too much traffic. Best at night.*

146. B480 Oxford to Henley. Can be busy at times, but another nice twisty B road. Try the nearby B481 too (watch for Gatsos as you approach Reading though) **

147. A4155 Henley to Wooburn. Nice twisty A road, busy though so go at night or early in the morning. *

148. A355 Beaconsfield to Amersham. Good high speed sweeping A road, too busy so go at night. *

149. B4389 Llanfair Caereinion to Newtown - nice hedge-lined country B road **

150. B485 Great Missenden to Chesham. Another good B road near London *

151. B489/B488/B4506/A4146 between Aylesbury and Dunstable – good twisty country roads quite near to N London & Milton Keynes **

152. B1368 Puckeridge to Hauxton nr Cambridge. A nice high speed B road with lots of fast corners and pleasant scenery – makes a great alternative route from London to Cambridge avoiding the overcrowded A10 and boring M11 **

153. A54 Congelton to Buxton – good alternative to the A537 Cat and Fiddle nr Buxton. ***

154. B6161 Otley to Harrogate – decent stretch of B road, one nice uphill stretch **

155. B6451 Otley to Summerbridge – excellent moorland B road, with a superb uphill stretch leading up to RAF Menwith Hills (with huge 200ft white “golf ball” listening stations) then a great stretch over the moors to Summerbridge. ***

156. B6160 Addingham to Newbiggin via Bolton Abbey. Superb Dales B road, very tight, very twisty, some nice climbs & descents, lovely scenery, can be busy in parts due to tourists. ***

157. The stretch of the A59 from Skipton to Harrogate has some superb fast moorland sections. **

158. B6265 Ripon to Skipton. Brilliant Dales B road, loads of sharp gradients, twists and turns, reasonable visibility and superb scenery. ***

159. B6255 Ingleton to Hawes - one of the best B roads in the country - loads of visibility, sharp twists and turns, open sweepers, high speed straights, climbs and descents. ****

160. A683 north from Kirkby Lonsdale to the A685 - excellent A road, not usually too busy, loads of tight twisty bits, enough straights to overtake on. Watch for plod ***

161. Almost all the roads in the Lake District are good, but the place is so busy they are often hard to overtake on and huge convoys can build up. Go at night and you'll have a great time (can't be bothered writing down all the road numbers!)

162. B6413 Brampton to Penrith is a super B road, pretty quiet and resembles a rally stage in parts ***

163. B6318 Langholm to Greenhead. Superior to the Hadrians Wall section IMO, a good quiet B road with plenty of twists and some challenging uphill/downhill sections ***

164. B6320 Chollerford to Old town. Typical entertaining country road, not too much traffic. **

165. B1363 York to Oswaldkirk. Lovely Yorkshire B road, nice scenery and plenty of good sweeping bends with enough twisty stuff to keep you entertained. Can be busy. **

166. B1257 Helmsley to Stokesley. Frequently busy, but if you can find a quiet time, this is a superb road. Lots of entertaining twisty stuff, and some very fast sequences of bends and short straights with crests and dips that can be quite challenging. ***

167. B6278 Eggleston to Stanhope - an incredibly wild 12 mile stretch across isolated moorland. Superb visibility and 12 foot posts marking the side of the road for guidance, there are fast bends, straights and also very slow challenging sections with up and downhill hairpin sequences, tight S bends and blind crests which make it look as though you are going to disappear off the face of the earth. Stunning. ****

168. A689 Bishop Auckland to Brampton. Fun and very fast long A road ***

169. B6277 Barnard Castle to Alston. Superb visibility, loads of challenging twists and turns, fast sections, tricky slower bits, massive variety, lovely scenery, and isolation all combine to give one of the best roads in Britain. ****

170. A68 Corbridge to Edinburgh. An excellent A road, marred only by traffic and the risk of plod. Great way to get up to Edinburgh, otherwise I'd stick to the quieter roads. **

171. A82 Glasgow to Inverness. Quite possibly the best touring road in Britain, this has stunning scenery, plenty of overtaking opportunities, some incredibly fast sections, but also excellent variety e.g. a very twisty section as you go up past Loch Lomond. Some of the highland sections almost beg you to test the top speed of your car, others will test your car's brakes and handling to the limit. Loads of fast open sweepers, superb visibility. An amazing road ****

172. A87 Invergarry to Uig on the Isle of Skye. Similar to the A82, but not quite as stunning, this is still a fantastic high speed road. ***

173. A850, A863, A855 all on the Isle of Skye. More high speed roads, but with slower more challenging twisty stuff too, and amazing scenery. ***

174. B4391 SE of Bala - excellent Welsh B road with lots of variety and great scenery. Has twisty forest sections and a great uphill climb from Bala (including a nice hairpin) to the moors where the road changes character again and speeds up, before coming back down into more normal (but still entertaining) country road sections. ****

175. A4069 Llangadog to Brynaman - typical twisty country road, heading south into an even twistier steeply ascending hill road with a hairpin and excellent visibility. Suffers from narrowness and an unclear verge, short corners, too many sheep on the high speed sections, and you have to do repeated heavy braking from high speed on the steep downhill section, which is both dangerous and not much fun. Good but not great, and make sure your brakes are up to the job. ** (originally suggested by Nigel for this suggestion, he rates it as one of the UK's best roads, and swparks likes it more than me too)

176. A65 Kendal to Ilkley. A really superb A road, loads of twisty bits, fast open sweepers, dips and uphill stretches. Unfortunately very busy during the day, but late at night it is superb and very quiet. Watch for plod. ***

177. A39 Minehead to Barnstaple. A great road going through the north part of Exmoor, with lovely scenery and some challenging parts esp the steep climbs and hairpins at Porlock and Lynmouth where you need a bit of power. ***

178. B3223 from Dulverton through Exmoor National Park. Another great road over the hills, this one a bit quieter and just as much fun, classic B road stuff. ***

179. B3224 E from Exford across the Brendon Hills. Another Exmoor classic with all the usual fun B road ingredients. ***

180. B3190 Watchet to Bampton. Not driven this one but I can tell it's fun just looking at the map! I'd appreciate a report, otherwise I'll drive it sometime soon and give my own verdict

181. B3135 Cheddar Gorge, just E of Cheddar. Very twisty and hard to overtake on, with nimbleness counting for more than outright grunt. Stunning scenery with massive cliff faces on either side of the road, and you can pop into the cheese shop half way through if you fancy a bite ***

182. B4407 past Ysbyty Ifan - an excellent Welsh B road, starting with typical twisty country lane stuff in the NE section, then progressing into a superb isolated moorland section which twists and turns before joining the B4391. ****

183. B4406 to Penmachno, then S on a C road through Carrog onto the B4407 - if you like an adrenaline rush this is your road, the sort of place you can imagine Ari Vatanen pushing the throttle to the floor and scaring his co-driver senseless. Best to leave that to the pros though, as a one or two foot deviation off line will result in some unintentional and costly off-roading. Fun but a bit scary in places. ***

184. B4391 E from Ffestiniog to the A4212 - another really excellent moorland road, the usual array of twists and turns, short dips and crests, really puts a grin on your face. ****

185. (S) B4518 and C road from Staylittle to Machynlleth.

186. A4067 Ynyswen to Defynnog. An excellent fast road across the Brecon Beacons, lots of very high speed straights and long sweeping corners, with decent visibility. ***

187. (S) B5053 north from Froghall (suggested by Ben from the Evo forum)

188. (S) Single track road from the A5004 NW of Buxton

189. B5470 - another good Peak district road, can get a bit busy at times, but nice and twisty with plenty of dips and crests to entertain. ***

190. (S) Rhayader to Cwmystwyth

191. B4011 Bicester to Thame, including C road detour via Brill – a really pretty country route which is a delight in the summer, not too far from London, fairly quiet, with several excellent S bends, up and down sections and twisty most of the way. Start at the north end of the 4011, head south and take the turning signposted left to Brill then onto a C road climb up Muswell Hill. Stop off at the windmill in Brill and admire a stunning view (you can see 5 counties on a good day), then carry on to Thame where you can turn round and do it the other way. This is the road where TE Lawrence was killed after crashing his motorbike, and it can be tricky in parts so take care and remember to slow down for the villages. ***


192. (S) Hirnant Pass unclassified road from Rhiwargor to Bala.

193. (S) The B6047 from Market Harborough to Melton Mowbray in Leicester

Swervin_Mervin
24-11-2006, 15:08
BTW, I've probably only driven about 1% of those routes, if that. :P

VIPERONE
24-11-2006, 17:28
Gunner ya pussy :lol: :roll: :lol: ,go on the one from from Slaidburn,


I was under tuition at the time so had no say on the route... i wast allowed to use thr brakes lol.

just learning about limit points and principle of cornering/car control lol .

BigBoreBri
24-11-2006, 18:19
Ha Ha, some of my favourite roads in that list! LOL

Although if u feel the need to experience No. 117 i would advise it at night if its not been locked up... try going fast round there during the day and there will be a few dead ramblers, he he :rally:

VIPERONE
24-11-2006, 18:30
cant believe the settletomalham moorland road is not on that list..thats another belter

cliorod
25-11-2006, 01:54
What about THE classic RALLY road the "25 miler" on the Tour of Mull, :twisted: :roll: :twisted:
Usually the first one on the Saturday night actually 21:94mls ~~ Loch Tauth/Calgary Bay :wink: :wink: ~~~ 25 pages of notes to read :lol: :lol: The winners time this year in a WRC Impreza 20:26secs :twisted: :twisted: .
A guy cycled it for charity in 1hr:7:33secs at an average of 10:94mph!!! :twisted: :twisted: ~~ mad people these rally drivers :twisted: :twisted:
Agree about the Malham/Arncliffe road ~~ lovely drops on the run in to Arncliffe :twisted: :roll: :twisted:

Our Clubs Navigation /Scatter is booked for the 7thFEB ~~ got to get a permit etc.