PDA

View Full Version : SADEV gearbox fitted



dimkais
29-09-2006, 08:08
Finally i managed to fit my sadev gearboxon my clio and i got some shots.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102572040.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526352)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571756.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526345)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571983.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526349)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571643.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526341)

Without engine top mount as i fitted GrA mounts

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571913.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526351)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571880.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526348)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571818.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526346)

Exhaust manifold and downpipe

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571871.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526347)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571740.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526344)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/9/27102571647.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3526340)

TriO`
29-09-2006, 08:16
what a beast... :twisted:

Martin
29-09-2006, 08:58
sick! :twisted:

Zollo
29-09-2006, 09:19
Awesome Clio 8)

Bright white shifter isn't very subtle :shock:

northy
29-09-2006, 09:23
Now thats impressive.

what ratios ar u using buddy ? and has improved the 0 - 60 times :wink:

Have you still got a clutch pedal in the usual place ?

stew
29-09-2006, 09:38
Total ****ing weapon.

Wish i had this kinda money to spend on my clio!

8) :twisted:

pat_986
29-09-2006, 10:20
WOW, Love it!

summeh
29-09-2006, 10:42
owwwww that was good.

jay s
29-09-2006, 10:51
=P~

Andyvalver
29-09-2006, 11:29
8)

wavy
29-09-2006, 11:32
total beast im betting
nice 1 8)

dimkais
29-09-2006, 13:48
Awesome Clio 8)

Bright white shifter isn't very subtle :shock:

Im gonna paint it black the soonest :wink:

dimkais
29-09-2006, 13:53
Now thats impressive.
what ratios ar u using buddy ? and has improved the 0 - 60 times :wink:
Have you still got a clutch pedal in the usual place ?


This has the std GrA ratios (if you want more details,just tell me).Do kno about times yet,as i fitted two days ago...The clutch pedal is in the usual place but converted to GrA spec (adjustable)...And is used only in 1st and reverse gear :lol:
I hope to get a video soon...

J o n
29-09-2006, 14:35
one word

"WOW!"

Geezer
29-09-2006, 14:36
Looks pretty mint mate.... let us know what it goes like!

Also, notice your running without the cam cover.... is that just a temp measure?

Craig

jay s
29-09-2006, 15:02
1 more thing your a brave man using them kent pullies :shock: id be changing them quickly...

Winston
29-09-2006, 15:37
Droooooooooooooooooooooooool :P

tony16v
29-09-2006, 16:04
did you have to fit different drive shafts??

also does the speedo still work??

cheers Tony.

GakisClio16v
29-09-2006, 16:53
The speedo doesn't work. The driveshafts are Williams's

I'm expecting about 5sec for 0-60mph an 12,5sec for 1/4 mile not stripped.

stan
29-09-2006, 17:01
Sex wee!!

Whats the spec on the engine? performance figures?

Daz.
29-09-2006, 17:46
Yowzers!

arj256
29-09-2006, 18:38
Quality Setup 8)
Bet thats good fun to drive.

Martin
29-09-2006, 19:29
Gets vids!!!!!!

Some 0-100 runs would be mint

GakisClio16v
29-09-2006, 22:13
We soon going to post some 1/4 mile videos and VBoxIII measurements...

big hp
29-09-2006, 22:17
awesome.

First dibs on your box should you decide you dont like it :lol:

dimkais
30-09-2006, 08:27
Also, notice your running without the cam cover.... is that just a temp measure?
Craig

Craig,i left it that way so i can easily change the pulleys timing...

dimkais
30-09-2006, 08:31
Sex wee!!

Whats the spec on the engine? performance figures?

Engine spec.....the usual :D 14:1comp. ratio with 312 deg cams, 50mm throttle boddies,8 injectors and remapable ECU...
As concerns the kent pulleys,this is the 3rd set im using without problems :roll:

stan
30-09-2006, 09:12
aye i remember that bit! wheres the rev limit? any idea of power/torque?

dimkais
30-09-2006, 09:50
The rev limit was at 9300rpm but due to very long first gear we made it working lower than usual so now the limit is 8700 (but not for long :lol: ).
I uploaded the dyno figures somewhere before the site broke down.It had 243hp but without the last mods :wink:

stan
30-09-2006, 10:21
cool...what lift to the cams give? and what is the spec of the head?

dimkais
30-09-2006, 11:48
the cams have 12,5mm lift.The head is ported and polished.

dimkais
30-09-2006, 12:15
awesome.

First dibs on your box should you decide you dont like it :lol:

All the parts will be for sale soon as a new member has come to my familly and need to get something bigger :roll: :roll:

Dan_mk1
30-09-2006, 12:34
Absolutely awesome, 312 cams?! the idle must be fun! :lol:

Lunner
30-09-2006, 12:36
Absolutely awesome, 312 cams?! the idle must be fun! :lol:

Depends how they are timed in, you can get a lumpy idle on relativly mild cams if they are timed in aggressivly, hance the lack up upper cambelt cover, so he can tweek the timing

2 live
30-09-2006, 13:10
lucky lucky man


shud be a fair bit quicker now too hehe

dimkais
30-09-2006, 13:29
Absolutely awesome, 312 cams?! the idle must be fun! :lol:
When i have time and get a video you will see that my idle is MUCH better (1000rpm ct) than any other williams that has competition cams :lol: :lol: :lol:
The difference is the throttle boddies :wink: Without them ........don't even wanna think about it :lol: :lol: :lol:

stan
30-09-2006, 17:23
yup...the mappable ecu doesnt need MAP reference, so you dont get erratic values going to the ecu on idle. So fuelling is more stable, and idle quality improves.

is she quite "peaky" to drive?

dimkais
30-09-2006, 20:42
is she quite "peaky" to drive?

What do you mean by peaky?

DaveH
01-10-2006, 01:11
quality- some spec youve got there!

stan
01-10-2006, 10:27
is she quite "peaky" to drive?

What do you mean by peaky?

meaning the power and torque is biased to mainly the higher rev's. so when accelerating through the rev range, it only pulls strongly past say 5500rpm.

dimkais
01-10-2006, 14:56
meaning the power and torque is biased to mainly the higher rev's. so when accelerating through the rev range, it only pulls strongly past say 5500rpm.

The car pulls strongly 5000-9000.
Ive got some problems now with fuels or something.I think that the injectors are small and need to get bigger.The mixture is gettin purer and purer as the revs goes higher and i cannot understand why.This happened after i fitted an incar fuel tank,external fuel pump and bigger fuel hoses.Before these, everything was excellent.Now i cannot understand what the hell is going on :roll: :roll: :roll:

stan
01-10-2006, 17:07
Have you changed the fuel pressure at the rail? likely you have, if so, you need to scale the map to suit. If your software doesnt have this function, then the map itself will need tweaking.

Craig
03-10-2006, 14:07
kent pulleys.....SHIT!

rest of car and engine looks amazing tho mate!!! well impressive!

here are my kent pulleys....! cost me a lot of money and time due to this failing!! :(


http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~cadams/images/tbclio/kent/P1020530.jpg

Mr.AdamB
07-10-2006, 14:47
and videos yet :D???

dimkais
07-10-2006, 19:10
and videos yet :D???

Iam trying to resolve the fuel problems ive got.I can get a video now but with rev limit to 8k the most.
Also i haven't got speedo so what do you want to see?Street or tacho?

Laine_16v
07-10-2006, 19:14
and videos yet :D???

Iam trying to resolve the fuel problems ive got.I can get a video now but with rev limit to 8k the most.
Also i haven't got speedo so what do you want to see?Street or tacho?
Both :D

dimkais
07-10-2006, 19:17
I found my previous set up dyno...

http://f5.putfile.com/5/12407533751-thumb.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=2522778)

Ali
07-10-2006, 19:27
Your actually havin a giraffe!

I'd rather buy a faster car!

Craig
07-10-2006, 19:40
why? thats boring!

i had a 300hp scooby, and my 200+ clio is twice as much fun! and faster, better handling, cheaper!

Coops
07-10-2006, 19:46
craig mate, is urs an hactual valver engine or is it 2.0?

Craig
07-10-2006, 19:51
2ltr F7R :)

Coops
07-10-2006, 20:05
thought so, just read ur profile is all n its says t/b'd clio 16 valve not willy engines t/b'd hybrid beast! :P

dimkais
08-10-2006, 08:21
I liked a lot Craig's radiator ....The and car was awesome.Who has it now?Has the same spec as used to have?

Craig
08-10-2006, 13:05
thanks :)

i still have it. it was broken for months, just got it back yday!

the radiator is very good....but a bit too efficient in winter, the car runs too cool. its fine in this weather tho!

dimkais
08-10-2006, 15:49
thanks :)

i still have it. it was broken for months, just got it back yday!

the radiator is very good....but a bit too efficient in winter, the car runs too cool. its fine in this weather tho!

I want if you don't :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ali
08-10-2006, 19:46
why? thats boring!

i had a 300hp scooby, and my 200+ clio is twice as much fun! and faster, better handling, cheaper!

Meh...Yeh i know mehdi's old bus went like shit off a shovel. Shame you have to start it and let it warm up for about an hour! Or so i heard.

but a race box in a road car.....silly.

Craig
08-10-2006, 19:52
it warms up slightly slower than any other car due to a very efficient radiator. extra 5-10 mins tops not an hour. that would be a bit shit!

the sadev box is a nice bit of kit, not ideally practical on a road car, but why not? its an excellent upgrade on the stock one :)

if everyone bought faster cars the car enthusiast world would be a very boring place...

Ali
08-10-2006, 20:49
it warms up slightly slower than any other car due to a very efficient radiator. extra 5-10 mins tops not an hour. that would be a bit s**t!

the sadev box is a nice bit of kit, not ideally practical on a road car, but why not? its an excellent upgrade on the stock one :)

if everyone bought faster cars the car enthusiast world would be a very boring place...

Fair point matey.

What ever happened to coilovers and brakes! ;) I've spent 1200 or so on engine work got just shy of 200Bhp...Wish i'd bought coils and 4 pots instead.

BenR
08-10-2006, 21:28
who uses brakes?

clean16v
08-10-2006, 23:28
what are brakes?

clean16v
08-10-2006, 23:33
Meh...Yeh i know mehdi's old bus went like s**t off a shovel. Shame you have to start it and let it warm up for about an hour! Or so i heard.

but a race box in a road car.....silly.

Mate i really don't know where you get your facts from! start it and let it warm an hour? more like 6-7 minutes!

Race box in a road car, it's hardly a 'road car' given the extensive work it has had. Coilovers and bigger brakes are 'race' derived. Why put them on a road car?

Ali
09-10-2006, 13:46
I was takin the piss! Clearly not going to be an hour! A nasa Shuttle doesn't even take that long.

BenR
09-10-2006, 20:08
yea, in the case of the challenger.......they get pretty warm pretty fast.

Daz.
09-10-2006, 21:40
yea, in the case of the challenger.......they get pretty warm pretty fast.

:shock:

VIPERONE
09-10-2006, 21:55
no dash display???? you can get a gear display on the cheap...datatool do one ;-) and a cheap sequential gear shift light.. which is pi$$ to rig in

richy
09-10-2006, 22:09
lets all go buy scoobys or evos! hmmm nah :discussion:

dimkais
10-10-2006, 06:24
no dash display???? you can get a gear display on the cheap...datatool do one ;-) and a cheap sequential gear shift light.. which is pi$$ to rig in


http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27907271654.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3605330)

northy
10-10-2006, 07:45
Dimkais - KING OF CLIO MK1's :approve:

p.s thats a low idle (500rpm ?)

dimkais
10-10-2006, 10:10
Dimkais - KING OF CLIO MK1's :approve:

p.s thats a low idle (500rpm ?)

Its just the half of std as i have two coil packs running now.I have connected the one wire (of two ) only so thats the half reading.I have an external tacho but you cant see it in this foto.

northy
10-10-2006, 10:24
nice !

can you take a picture of your pedals for me (acceraltro, brake and clutch)

BenR
10-10-2006, 12:26
Dimkais - KING OF CLIO MK1's :approve:

p.s thats a low idle (500rpm ?)

Its just the half of std as i have two coil packs running now.I have connected the one wire (of two ) only so thats the half reading.I have an external tacho but you cant see it in this foto.

why dont you bridge both coils with with 2 diodes and a zenediode?

dimkais
10-10-2006, 13:19
why dont you bridge both coils with with 2 diodes and a zenediode?

I got a system like that from France (as i don't kno anything for these) but it didn't work.It was working properly until 3500rpm and then dropped to 0 :roll: :roll: :roll: So i send it to trash :x

dimkais
10-10-2006, 13:33
can you take a picture of your pedals for me (acceraltro, brake and clutch)

What exactly do you want?They are std.Or do you want to see their attachement with their cables?

GakisClio16v
10-10-2006, 13:36
BenR, do you have the wiring diagram for this?

northy
10-10-2006, 13:38
can you take a picture of your pedals for me (acceraltro, brake and clutch)

What exactly do you want?They are std.Or do you want to see their attachement with their cables?

Thats good enough mate. williams 0001 has a nice special 'extention' to the accelerator pedal you see, just wondered if you had the same on yours ?

dimkais
10-10-2006, 14:32
can you take a picture of your pedals for me (acceraltro, brake and clutch)

What exactly do you want?They are std.Or do you want to see their attachement with their cables?

Thats good enough mate. williams 0001 has a nice special 'extention' to the accelerator pedal you see, just wondered if you had the same on yours ?

I dont think so.....but i can send you a foto......when the rain stops :lol:

northy
10-10-2006, 15:43
:D

stew
10-10-2006, 17:09
northy - any chance you can sort me out with my PM list. Cheers mate.

Why did 0001 have extensions? :?

northy
10-10-2006, 17:37
northy - any chance you can sort me out with my PM list. Cheers mate.

Why did 0001 have extensions? :?

did that weeks ago mate !

ollie16v
10-10-2006, 22:59
Amazing bit of work, its the ultimate go-kart! :D

BenR
10-10-2006, 23:58
BenR, do you have the wiring diagram for this?

nope, but i flog them out for a tenner and they work great.

I use them on alot of older cars which use traditional coil earth triggered tachos.