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Martin
01-05-2006, 22:06
Oooops!

Not satisfied with some 3 wheels action and maybe even some 2 wheel action...I accidentally got some no wheel action at Anglesey! lol

Anyone got a nice clean valver shell? :wink:

clowo16v
01-05-2006, 22:10
Shit you OK mate?

Matt

arj256
01-05-2006, 22:12
Ouch you alright?
What happened?

Martin
01-05-2006, 22:14
I'm fine....got a bit too enthusistic with the sideways action, tried to correct and dug in....bugger

GazTwo
01-05-2006, 22:15
:shock: .....shit mate u've done a Scott????

clowo16v
01-05-2006, 22:16
Ooops what did the roof cope like?

Matt

Scott-16v!
01-05-2006, 22:16
Fook :shock:
any pics of the damage?

Martin
01-05-2006, 22:19
Ooops what did the roof cope like?

Matt

alright really, looks like scotts when he did his....vids later

Justin..
01-05-2006, 22:22
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(

wavy
01-05-2006, 22:27
oh no thats a bad do m8 :( is it proper terminal for the shell im assuming u can re use engine n most other bits ?
at least u aint hurt tho (did u have the rollcage fitted)

ebay No..4636030111

its a shell its been readvertised for a few weeks
doesnt look to good tho :( but only £25 :)

MatBrown
01-05-2006, 22:40
I have a williams shell going.
No damage, just needs the rear arches doing.



Mat.

Andyvalver
01-05-2006, 22:44
Shit man. Glad your ok :)

Martin
01-05-2006, 22:44
I have a williams shell going.
No damage, just needs the rear arches doing.



Mat.

How Bare a shell... Mat ? I hope it does'nt have a sunlight hole :?:

MatBrown
01-05-2006, 22:47
It can be as bare as you want it! :wink:
Of course it hasn't got a sunroof hole, no proper Williams has! :P



Mat.

Martin
01-05-2006, 22:48
I need to get onto the trackaction photographer too lol He caught me in mid air! :lol:

Dan_mk1
01-05-2006, 22:58
LMAO, respect dude! Dunno how your being so calm, id be pissed! :lol:

EvilJohn
01-05-2006, 22:58
dull un, hope you get it all sorted asap mate

Djw dave
01-05-2006, 23:00
Thast gutting mate :(

Zollo
01-05-2006, 23:00
Ah bugger :(

As everyone else says, though, at least you're ok :)

Which corner was it mate? Where did it dig in? :?



It can be as bare as you want it! :wink:
Of course it hasn't got a sunroof hole, no proper Williams has! :P



Mat.

Has it got the V5 still? Will that mean Martin would own a Williams again?!

FlamingMonkey
01-05-2006, 23:13
Oooops sorry to hear that dude

Martin
01-05-2006, 23:21
Ah bugger :(

As everyone else says, though, at least you're ok :)

Which corner was it mate? Where did it dig in? :?



It can be as bare as you want it! :wink:
Of course it hasn't got a sunroof hole, no proper Williams has! :P



Mat.

Has it got the V5 still? Will that mean Martin would own a Williams again?!

Happened at Douglas Mat....Just looking at the vid..it seems I was asleep behind the wheel lol Had been lifting off round there all day to good effect to get the car pointing down the straight ...but I was very late and by trying to save a lost cause I caused it to snap back and go over...don't think it even dug in just gripped maybe.

Ahh williams no sunroof :)

Andyvalver
01-05-2006, 23:25
:shock: you got vid footage then.

Daz.
01-05-2006, 23:28
cool! lol

Zollo
01-05-2006, 23:35
Happened at Douglas Mat....Just looking at the vid..it seems I was asleep behind the wheel lol Had been lifting off round there all day to good effect to get the car pointing down the straight ...but I was very late and by trying to save a lost cause I caused it to snap back and go over...don't think it even dug in just gripped maybe.



So just by the pit entrance then?! Lol, if you're gonna do it, do it in style and infront of a crowd!

VIPERONE
01-05-2006, 23:40
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/gunnergibson/Grave.jpg

Andyvalver
01-05-2006, 23:42
:lol:

Martin
01-05-2006, 23:45
lol @ gunner

vid

http://media.putfile.com/DohAnglesey

Martin
01-05-2006, 23:50
Looking on the bright side lol the car was feeling spot on all day.....nice lift off oversteer and good front end grip from the avons. A guy came over to chat to me about the car and he said he'd timed me at 54.4 for a lap which is a fair bit quicker than I did in the nana..

Winston
01-05-2006, 23:50
Kin Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sparks n all .....you nutter

stan
01-05-2006, 23:52
good effort lad!

Justin..
01-05-2006, 23:52
i would shit myself if that would happen :shock:

wavy
01-05-2006, 23:52
:lol: @ gunner

8) cool vid tho martin 1st vid iv seen where your light switch has been in place (sort of) :)
good news if your gettin a willy shell so quick 8)

MattyH16valver
01-05-2006, 23:54
nasty m8... :(

arj256
01-05-2006, 23:56
The roof held up well which is just as well.
You recon it could of been the slicks which made it dig in?

Zollo
02-05-2006, 00:03
Jesus Christ, that thing just tipped over :shock: . Why the hell did it do that? :?

On a lighter note, those wheels look great on it!

Martin
02-05-2006, 00:06
The roof held up well which is just as well.
You recon it could of been the slicks which made it dig in?

Think they just gripped mate....which is what they are supposed to do to be fair lol Just I fvcked up....I think road tyres may have washed out or they could folded over and the rims might dig in and get the same result who knows?

Zollo I know what you mean...when it happened I could'nt figure out why I had ended up on my roof lol I was looking for a phantom kerb :?

Wheels do look sweet..think 1 is a little bent now though

Zollo
02-05-2006, 00:10
Most cars just spin in that situation. I'd get on to whoever sold you those tyres... :oops:

Gunner, you know any crash investigators you could pass the video on to?! I want answers!

Martin
02-05-2006, 00:13
lol they do grip well, nearly 2 secs a lap quicker I'd say so I'll let you off....the hybrid was beasting quite a few 'quicker' cars...should be some :twisted: footage

VIPERONE
02-05-2006, 00:14
its obvious:

the wheels were on full opposite lock(overcorrect) that caused it to go over.

the grip was that good on the tyres they didnt slide but keeled it.

1) Martin is still alive
2) Dr Brown the pioneering surgeon, has found an organ donar with a shell.

3) lol LTR can drop the engine in for you..
4) you can use their courtesy car:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/gunnergibson/trotters.jpg

Jamie.
02-05-2006, 00:14
sorry to see/hear that,

1fast6
02-05-2006, 00:19
shit man that is well bad. thank god for that cage just goes to show how important they are for track days.

glad your ok tho.

edit just had a look at the stripped thread and you dont run a cage anyway! lucky the roof didn't crumple surely?

Hutch
02-05-2006, 00:21
:shock: :shock:

glad you're okay m8.

very odd the car just flipped like that, it's going to make me think twice now before any sideways action.

what suspention setup are you running? std springs? ride height?

Cheers
Hutch

Gav
02-05-2006, 00:28
sorry to see it fella :cry:
i like the way u pop ur plastic bit back into posistion when ur upside down lol

1st things 1st :lol:

Zollo
02-05-2006, 00:31
its obvious:

the wheels were on full opposite lock(overcorrect) that caused it to go over.

the grip was that good on the tyres they didnt slide but keeled it.



I reckon there's more to it than that! For a start, the more opposite-lock, the less chance it's going to flip-over as the front wheels are pointing the way the car wants to go. And I've seen plenty of semi-slick shod cars spin rather than roll over.

By the way Martin, you did well to keep quiet! I'd have screamed like a girl :P

Gav
02-05-2006, 00:34
he used his window movie maker skills to edit that bit out :wink:

http://www.cinemademerde.com/satansschool-scream.gif

jay s
02-05-2006, 01:20
:shock: :shock: :shock: oh ****, sorry to see that mate, glad your ok though :D now get that eng swapped on a rapid before fcs....

Mish_16V
02-05-2006, 01:23
Oi less of the screaming like a girl you lot...I'd of been touretting for England!

Glad your ok Martin, cars can be replaced, people can't

I wasn't expecting it to flip where it did though, jesus it just went over so easily :shock:

Martin
02-05-2006, 01:29
:shock: :shock:

glad you're okay m8.

very odd the car just flipped like that, it's going to make me think twice now before any sideways action.

what suspention setup are you running? std springs? ride height?

Cheers
Hutch

It's avo spring & shocks lowered 35mm front stnd back...was feeling very good.


cheers everyone btw was no damage done to me apart from a ickle cut on my hand from glass...was bit scary getting stuck in the harness for a while took me a full minute to get out with fuel pissing out the tank! :shock:

Mish_16V
02-05-2006, 01:32
Just goes to show even someone with quite alot of tracktime can end up having the car facing a way it shouldn't be.

Just watched again, them tyres are TO grippy!! You really just expect it to spin out

BenR
02-05-2006, 01:51
holy crap!

slow corner and ACB10's......bound to happen.

Looked like you had the old hop skip & jump going.

bass_direct
02-05-2006, 02:04
shit man! glad you're ok mate... hopefully you'll have something up and running for FCS

Anders
02-05-2006, 07:34
jeez, those tyres must be really grippy!!!

Any normal car would just slide round and spin....

craig100
02-05-2006, 08:07
s**t man,
glad your ok though.
i expect u will soon be on the road again :wink:

clowo16v
02-05-2006, 08:16
Cool vid mate i'm glad to see how well the roof and the whole car in general has stood up to the roll.

Matt

Laine_16v
02-05-2006, 08:35
Urrrrr unluck mate that must be gutting :(

Hope you get it all sorted out soon.

y0z2a
02-05-2006, 09:06
Saw This last night mart.

glad you are ok.

Notorious - R O O T

I am sure that she will be back together in no time.

two things to add to this Shell - Seam Welding and a Full Cage?

/y0z

Smokey McPot
02-05-2006, 09:13
I challenge you to have something ready for FCS :D

clowo16v
02-05-2006, 09:16
I dont reckon it needs a cage looking at how well the roof as survived, loads of extra weight aswell lol.

Matt

2 live
02-05-2006, 09:28
fukkin ell man....lol


nice flip tho.......i have a valver shell if u intrested.........with v5..cat less model too ;)

stew
02-05-2006, 09:29
Arghhhh disaster Martin!! :shock:

Well gutted for you, even although you seem quite calm about it!

Suppose all you can do is move on, grab another shell, and get to work on it!

Get a cage and stich welded on this one!

RIP L GYW....

dannyt
02-05-2006, 10:14
holy moley martin, you crazy ba*ard!lol

You seemed to take it very well though, u must have done that before!!! :wink:

Car was looking good on those wheels too!

Hopefully you'll have another shell soon though, what number is it matt?

Jamie.
02-05-2006, 10:15
f**kin ell man....lol


nice flip tho.......i have a valver shell if u intrested.........with v5..cat less model too ;)


what 2live is really thinking is..... "nice one, ......... does that make me the one in front again?"

:wink:

2 live
02-05-2006, 10:17
lol.no mate...theres a few as quick/quicker than martins...mine is nowhere near the force it once was lol.



altho tbf........theres not that many willy 1s up to same speed still...so still the williams 1 in front , as it has pretty much always been ;)

dannyt
02-05-2006, 10:18
haha good point Jamie! :wink:

Martin give us a bell when you get in!

Dan

Swervin_Mervin
02-05-2006, 10:29
Good to see you got home ok martin. I'm also glad they didn't dig in like that at School when you were following me and my gearbox played silly beggars. :shock:

J o n
02-05-2006, 10:32
bad news mate... well if you want a shell I'm let my car go very cheap. you can keep the shell and break the rest and sell for parts... some cams in there for you too...

Chris n`nic
02-05-2006, 10:37
****in hell Mart....could believe it when I read this...Glad your ok tho....bastard about the motor but can be replaced. Look forward to seeing the rest of the footage tho

Chris

northy
02-05-2006, 10:53
bloody hell martin - gutted for you.

glad to see that u didnt have to hoover aload of gravel out like scott.

if u need anything just let me know pal.

summeh
02-05-2006, 10:58
crap mate, like everyone else says, the main thing is your ok... could have been a lot worse if one of those sparks caught some leaking petrol.

At least your alive, and at least you can grab pretty much everything off the car aswell.

It's a lot of work to transfer everything across to a new shell tho... being stripped out tho a lot less work :wink:

Lunner
02-05-2006, 11:07
Begining to think wearing a nomex race suit to track days isn't quite as overkill as i first though.

Lunner
02-05-2006, 11:07
bad news mate... well if you want a shell I'm let my car go very cheap. you can keep the shell and break the rest and sell for parts... some cams in there for you too...

££?

.....or is the offer only open to Martin

Purple
02-05-2006, 11:30
:shock: Think you might have found the limit of stripping out the car. Looked like a tail-whip on a motorbike and flipped you. Very, very glad you walked awy from that.

J o n
02-05-2006, 11:44
:shock: Think you might have found the limit of stripping out the car. Looked like a tail-whip on a motorbike and flipped you. Very, very glad you walked awy from that.

anyone who wants it mate, I no longer want or need the car. I've lost interest in cars a lot over the last year, Clio's especially, there crap.

Swervin_Mervin
02-05-2006, 11:47
Clio's especially, there crap.

That's not what my passengers were telling me yesterday. They were giggling quite a lot. 8)

2 live
02-05-2006, 11:52
:shock: Think you might have found the limit of stripping out the car. Looked like a tail-whip on a motorbike and flipped you. Very, very glad you walked awy from that.

anyone who wants it mate, I no longer want or need the car. I've lost interest in cars a lot over the last year, Clio's especially, there crap.


a well maintained one doesnt give as much hassle mate tbh.......dont blame the car for lack of care spent on it.

J o n
02-05-2006, 13:01
it's not for lack of care, I've ploughed shit loads of money into this car, more than anyone else on here has even dreamt about (or been stupid enough). I couldn't give a **** now, but that's because everytime I spend money people tell me "yeah, will be fine now, what else can go wrong".

Heard that far too many times, and guess what? same shit again and again. Fix the breaks, replace the lot, then they **** up a month later... nowt to do with me that, I rarely drive the car hard, rarely bother with meets etc etc... I dont enjoy the car or trust it, so just go a to b, but it still does it's own thing. sorry for hijack, but offer still stands to either of you, the shell is fine as i said, mechanically it's got something wrong, even though most of its new...

Lunner
02-05-2006, 13:11
Tempting, but i'd never insure a williams shell, needs to be a valver one really...unless its going for like £500 lol

2 live
02-05-2006, 13:17
lol

J o n
02-05-2006, 13:29
£500... lol, your worse than the Northrops! :wink:

Martin
02-05-2006, 13:30
cheers jesus but I think yours is too good to break/turn into a slag....

BRUN
02-05-2006, 13:32
f'kn ell !

J o n
02-05-2006, 13:36
cheers jesus but I think yours is too good to break/turn into a slag....

not if it's cheap enough, plus its only a 2, not like you'd be butchering a 1!

Andyvalver
02-05-2006, 13:39
:shock: Just seen the vid. You were pretty looky mate.
Gets some t-cut on it and itl be fine :wink:

2 live
02-05-2006, 13:40
makin a track car out of a willy 1 isnt butcherin it lol.....;)

J o n
02-05-2006, 13:42
makin a track car out of a willy 1 isnt butcherin it lol.....;)

well, there are exceptions... but I bet you'd not let it happen to 159!!! lol

2 live
02-05-2006, 13:59
well no....its too good bodywise for that..others however...arent :twisted:

dannyt
02-05-2006, 16:08
flippen heck, it's a sorry day, martins cars a gonna and now jebus wants rid!!

I remember when we all first went on the peaks run and I first saw it, looked and went spot on Jon, what wrong with it now?

Dan

J o n
02-05-2006, 16:19
flippen heck, it's a sorry day, martins cars a gonna and now jebus wants rid!!

I remember when we all first went on the peaks run and I first saw it, looked and went spot on Jon, what wrong with it now?

Dan

lost interest mate. same things breaking even though they have been fixed only a month ago... **** that, someone else can have the problem, or I'll break it for parts. I'm flatly refusing to spend any more money on it... plus I'm bored of it now anyway, time to get something decent and properly fast.

Zollo
02-05-2006, 16:22
I do feel sorry for you Jesus. I know exactly what it's like to plough money into something, only for it to never be right. So frustrating.

Having said that, I do wish you'd just hurry up and get a new car now :wink:

J o n
02-05-2006, 16:28
I do feel sorry for you Jesus. I know exactly what it's like to plough money into something, only for it to never be right. So frustrating.

Having said that, I do wish you'd just hurry up and get a new car now :wink:

not the only one... finding an M3 GT isn't an easy task... then once you find one it's the condition it's in... they only made 50 so I'm still looking :cry:

might just get a normal one... but I'd set my heart on one of these really...

Swervin_Mervin
02-05-2006, 16:33
Offer evo 50p. That must be all theirs is worth since they ruined it by attempting a 5th gear style track failure attempt. Why the **** they didn't use a regular M3 I don't know.

Zollo
02-05-2006, 16:38
Offer evo 50p. That must be all theirs is worth since they ruined it by attempting a 5th gear style track failure attempt. Why the f**k they didn't use a regular M3 I don't know.

Because Jethro probably isn't paying for it, and it's slightly faster!

I know of two RHD GTs that have been made into race cars, so that's another two less out there! I reckon a normal Evo is better anyway mate. At least you can pick the colour then.

MrAtego
02-05-2006, 17:07
k'nell martin you clumsy bstard!!! ;) Glad your ok though fella :D

Justin..
02-05-2006, 17:18
lol the engine was still running when upside down :shock:

clowo16v
02-05-2006, 17:43
Oh ye was gonna say when you put the engine in another car make sure you drain all the oil out first, refill and then take the LT lead off and turn it over without firing it. That should hopefully get the oil going round a bit as while it was running upside down it may have starved it of oil a bit.

Matt

steveos_16valver
02-05-2006, 17:43
dam mate glad you ok sham about the motor tho

excellent video top marks

good luck in the search of a new beast ! :!:

Zollo
02-05-2006, 18:38
Wheels do look sweet..think 1 is a little bent now though

Hang on, there shouldn't be a bent wheel - all it did was slide and then go on it's roof? This accident is just weird :?

Unless it was damaged when they put it back on its wheels again.

Coops
02-05-2006, 18:43
shit mate, glad your okay! between you and lunner i've had the weirdest read this evening already! mad buggers both of ya!

speed
02-05-2006, 18:45
sun roof intact.!!!!!!!! light and strong

richy
02-05-2006, 18:52
bloody hell martin! certainly go through alot of clios!

Martin
02-05-2006, 18:54
Wheels do look sweet..think 1 is a little bent now though

Hang on, there shouldn't be a bent wheel - all it did was slide and then go on it's roof? This accident is just weird :?

Unless it was damaged when they put it back on its wheels again.

Maybe it was there before the edge of the rim was little funny on the left front....

GazTwo
02-05-2006, 19:53
Just watched the vid....that is madness can't beleive it flipped over!!!....think I'll be giving slicks a miss..... :?

U need any help with anything Martin (what use I would be) give us a shout....hope u get it sorted a.s.a.p.

And u and Mervin need to stop having these gay little track days on your own and let people know so we can watch.... :wink: ...sorry take part.

Tommo
02-05-2006, 20:00
:shock: Fookin hell Martin that's crazy, glad your ok tho mate, cars can always be fixed at the end of the day! Hope u get everything sorted soon...

Tommo
02-05-2006, 20:02
lol.no mate...theres a few as quick/quicker than martins...mine is nowhere near the force it once was lol.



altho tbf........theres not that many willy 1s up to same speed still...so still the williams 1 in front , as it has pretty much always been ;)

There are other fast willy 1's.... :wink:

2 live
02-05-2006, 20:08
lol..yes mate..all seem to b up north tho.......must be summat in the air or summat lol

Tommo
02-05-2006, 20:15
Ha! Agreed, we're all speed freaks!!

ScottCup
02-05-2006, 21:19
I would just like to say a big congratulation to martin on joining my club, the only thing lacking in his initiation was colourful comentary at the end.

Glad that you are ok

big hp
02-05-2006, 21:53
Holy shit, glad your ok though martin.

VIPERONE
02-05-2006, 21:54
http://media.putfile.com/Movie-75-57

spotted:

on turn in he overshoots the track o/s/f wheelhits the rough/grass/sand patch....****ng things up

stew
02-05-2006, 22:03
lol

thats a bit better gunner!

must have been one hell of a scary experience martin!

what you doing for getting to work??? :shock:

MatBrown
02-05-2006, 22:16
Ah bugger :(

As everyone else says, though, at least you're ok :)

Which corner was it mate? Where did it dig in? :?



It can be as bare as you want it! :wink:
Of course it hasn't got a sunroof hole, no proper Williams has! :P



Mat.

Has it got the V5 still? Will that mean Martin would own a Williams again?!

Yep, complete with V5.



Mat.

steveos_16valver
02-05-2006, 23:12
http://media.putfile.com/Movie-75-57

spotted:

on turn in he overshoots the track o/s/f wheelhits the rough/grass/sand patch....****ng things up

love the last bit " what a stupid thing to do " lol

Purple
03-05-2006, 01:49
:) You have no idea how happy I am that I finally got access to putfile yesterday (it was blocked), to see one of the scariest crash footage. I am still amazed, and very glad, that the roof did not cave in. That screeching metal sound will stay with me for a long time.

Any driving footage before the flip? Looks like you were driving great right up to the flip.

northy
03-05-2006, 07:52
heehee glad your finally able to see putfiles mrpurple :wink:

Martin
03-05-2006, 07:54
:) You have no idea how happy I am that I finally got access to putfile yesterday (it was blocked), to see one of the scariest crash footage. I am still amazed, and very glad, that the roof did not cave in. That screeching metal sound will stay with me for a long time.

Any driving footage before the flip? Looks like you were driving great right up to the flip.

Yes I'll edit / upload asap :)

Tucks
03-05-2006, 11:04
The video is quite scary actually!
At least your safe and good luck with sorting it out.

Andyvalver
03-05-2006, 17:26
:) You have no idea how happy I am that I finally got access to putfile yesterday (it was blocked), to see one of the scariest crash footage. I am still amazed, and very glad, that the roof did not cave in. That screeching metal sound will stay with me for a long time.

Any driving footage before the flip? Looks like you were driving great right up to the flip.

Yes I'll edit / upload asap :)

Did you spank any faster cars before the RIP part :cry:

gtbloke
04-05-2006, 07:44
Now thats how u write off a clio :lol:

Bad shit dude!

Jason
04-05-2006, 11:38
TG Martin got out OK.
Has very odd flip over indeed.

It was very similar with the time Martin was following that Super7
and the clio went bouncy-dancing

mon
05-05-2006, 00:01
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/gunnergibson/Grave.jpg



lol megadeath


rust in peace lol

GazTwo
14-06-2006, 19:40
Now in it's final days....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/GazTwo/Cnv0009.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/GazTwo/Cnv0008.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/GazTwo/Cnv0007.jpg

Justin..
14-06-2006, 19:42
:shock: looked like its been abandoned and scavaged by chavs :o

Martin
14-06-2006, 19:43
nice pics..it's time is coming to an end! :cry:

Gav
14-06-2006, 19:43
:cry: dam thats a depressing sight

Justin..
14-06-2006, 19:45
can i have the centre cap off that williams wheel and the one on other side if there ?? please :D

Martin
14-06-2006, 19:48
no feck off !

Martin
14-06-2006, 19:49
:lol:

Justin..
14-06-2006, 19:49
:shock: ok :P

Gav
14-06-2006, 19:49
can i have the gearknob and permission to give the car a kick for luck? 8)

Justin..
14-06-2006, 19:50
pmsl. :lol:

mon
14-06-2006, 20:27
can i have the arches :lol:

Gav
14-06-2006, 20:35
skavenges!! back back!!! :lol:

Justin..
14-06-2006, 20:53
http://www.granstrand.net/albums/album25/P1020341a.thumb.jpg

mon
14-06-2006, 20:54
lol

northy
15-06-2006, 07:54
Bye Bye :cry: