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Swervin_Mervin
26-04-2006, 21:22
What's the verdict on these? Worth bothering with?

Martin
26-04-2006, 21:26
I had a quick go in winston's car a while back..felt very different but was nicely weighted once up to speed. He did'nt have a problem piloting it round ty croes....

Swervin_Mervin
26-04-2006, 21:46
What's it like in terms of no. of turns lock to lock.

Jamie.
26-04-2006, 21:52
would it not be the same, just heavier?

Martin
26-04-2006, 21:55
I dunno I presumed it would be the same no of turns...hopefully winston will give us a proper low down

Jamie.
26-04-2006, 21:57
I dunno I presumed it would be the same no of turns...hopefully winston will give us a proper low down

me to :wink:

Swervin_Mervin
26-04-2006, 22:13
Yes but if the rack comes off a boggo shit box I'd imagine that will have more turns lock to lock than a valver. :wink:

Did Wonston have a full manual rack or just bypass the PAS pump?

Martin
26-04-2006, 22:57
he had the works....rack, column etc ...for sale at the mo too iirc

u33db
27-04-2006, 13:52
Yes its worth it. Improves response and steering isn't in the least bit heavy unless you're a big jessie...do it!

Swervin_Mervin
27-04-2006, 14:32
Has Brun's got it then u33?

u33db
27-04-2006, 14:37
Yup! :)

AFAIK, Bondys rally car had the first kit, Winston the second and BRUNs the third.

Helps with oil changes too...

Swervin_Mervin
27-04-2006, 14:42
So what kit is it specifically? Is it the same no. of turns lock to lock?

Lunner
27-04-2006, 14:58
Manual rack and column off a non abs car, a reno backet of some description, another brackt of some description.......for when you remove teh PAS pump, and a shorter aux belt

Swervin_Mervin
27-04-2006, 15:04
What about the turns thing? Aren't the boggo models more?

Lunner
27-04-2006, 15:07
doubt it, why woudl they make them more??

IIRC when i had my 1.2 full lock was about the same

Measure lock to lock on a pas rack, and i'll go an measure the nukber of turns lock to lock on a manual rack

EDIT:

Just measured both lock to lock

PAS 3.25 turns
MANUAL 3.75 turns....approx for both, basically just over 3 turns and just under 4 turns

Swervin_Mervin
27-04-2006, 15:18
Sports models tend to have a lower number of turns that's all. All the boggo cars I've ever driven have needed oil tanker levels of steering input to turn teh wheels.

Lunner
27-04-2006, 15:21
Not a massive amount in it, a quick rack would be very nice though 8)

clowo16v
27-04-2006, 16:48
Don't just bypass the pump and leave the PAS rack on unassisted you'll crash the steering is stupidly heavy.

Matt