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Lunner
06-04-2006, 19:07
There is a local fibregalss company locla to me, need to speak to them sometime, the moulds are a bit over priced, but the prioducts are stupidly cheap, as in £500 for an entire beatle bodyshell, compared to £200 for a k-tec bonnet.

So if i can get a few names down as interested i can go and have a chat with them and hopefully have some idea of numbers to say to him about

Coops
06-04-2006, 19:10
again i wud love one but no money :cry:

Lunner
06-04-2006, 19:13
i'm skint atm, and have other priori#ties, looking at atleast 4-6 months in the future

Coops
06-04-2006, 19:33
mmmm interesting, preliminary 'in' from me then mate! 8)

Lunner
06-04-2006, 19:41
Bit more info, would be a skin only, would be smoothed over whrere the badge goes and soudl allow mounting of the vent, k-tec say theirs is 3.75kg

Martin
06-04-2006, 19:43
tbh I don't think I'll want one in 6 months.....tis a good mod though.

Lunner
06-04-2006, 19:48
wondered when you woudl pop up, you getting one before then?

I kow autocrosse(sp) will do them but not sure on price....****ed if i'm paying k-tec prices

Martin
06-04-2006, 20:06
nah I'm not paying 200 quid fook that I bought one for 70 quid off Tommo on here so if one came up around that price I'd be tempted..most likely be selling the car at the end of the summer so won't want one in 6 months...

Coops
06-04-2006, 20:08
onward n upward martin mate?! :shock: :wink:

Martin
06-04-2006, 20:11
not likely lol I can't save any money for a house deposit while I have this car... trackdays, 1/4 miling etc has to be done. Might just get a cheap valver....stnd!

Coops
06-04-2006, 20:12
hehe tell me bout it, am in the process of buying in sheffield with the missus, the 6 grand i got saved is all gonna go as deposit! :evil:

ash clio gtt
06-04-2006, 20:49
id be interested but prob better to ask more around the time as might not be able to wait 4-6 months to get car below 800kg, need it before rtoc national day at end of july 8)

Rich
07-04-2006, 15:01
Might just get a cheap valver....stnd!
might be offloading mine at the end of the summer ;)

Flan
07-04-2006, 15:08
Just a note, I will be making my own mould in a few weeks and the bonnets should only cost about £100 they will be GRP but im gunna make mine with a carbon fibre bulge.

Would be cheaper than a company and YES i do have the corect equipment, :wink:

Rich
07-04-2006, 15:12
hmmm interested on the final product when doen fella

Dan_mk1
07-04-2006, 15:26
Put me down

Daz.
07-04-2006, 15:56
Just a note, I will be making my own mould in a few weeks and the bonnets should only cost about £100 they will be GRP but im gunna make mine with a carbon fibre bulge.

Would be cheaper than a company and YES i do have the corect equipment, :wink:

Is Oooooooo! a word?

Lunner
07-04-2006, 16:43
Just a note, I will be making my own mould in a few weeks and the bonnets should only cost about £100 they will be GRP but im gunna make mine with a carbon fibre bulge.

Would be cheaper than a company and YES i do have the corect equipment, :wink:

I'll have one of them then :D

Not fussed about carbon bulge as it will all be painted, just as long as its a nice light skin

Flan
07-04-2006, 17:11
^^^ ok ill get on it, My bro will be making it. He can make full carbon TVR ones so clio ones will be easy. :wink:

ill keep you updated, will be a few weeks :lol:

Martin
07-04-2006, 17:33
sounds interesting flanson I'm down...(my opinions change like the wind lol)

clowo16v
07-04-2006, 17:44
Sounds good Flan. Can you make varying thickness ones as some people may want a slightly thicker version if they're not massively bothered about the weight. I'll have one thats as thin as is possible is thats OK lol.

See ya

Matt

Coops
07-04-2006, 17:47
not that bothered about weight? why else wud we fork out for a c/f bonnet?! :roll: :wink:

Daz.
07-04-2006, 18:50
If I have a car to put it on count me in

clowo16v
07-04-2006, 19:19
I meant they might want to use the original frame and hinges etc so it would have to be thicker. I don't care if mine flaps about and its gonna be held with 4 dzus fastners.

See ya

Matt

stevie_b
24-04-2006, 22:29
Any news on the group buy? I am going to buy one of these in the next week or two - from K-tec if there is nothing else out there.

Cheers,

Steve

Lunner
24-04-2006, 22:32
Spoke to Flan yesterday at the meet about it and hes gonna get on it soon

Coops
24-04-2006, 22:32
cuz blantantly flans power to weight is in serious need of attention! :wink:

Lunner
24-04-2006, 22:34
cuz blantantly flans power to weight is in serious need of attention! :wink:

LOL....always nice to go that lil bit faster....althoguh not sure if a pinned on bonnet goes with the sleeper look

arj256
24-04-2006, 23:24
Id be interested in one but would ideally like to use some of the original mounts if possible?

Lunner
25-04-2006, 13:39
Id be interested in one but would ideally like to use some of the original mounts if possible?

pussy :lol:

Swervin_Mervin
25-04-2006, 13:44
not likely lol I can't save any money for a house deposit while I have this car... trackdays, 1/4 miling etc has to be done. Might just get a cheap valver....stnd!

Yeah right, and it'll stay std for precisely how long? :wink:

Flan
25-04-2006, 13:50
Ok... gonna put in an order for some more Gelcoat this week. the bonnets will be Black but you can paint them.

I was gonna do it a single skin of Fiberglas with internal ridges for ridgidity (sp) i was also gonna make it so they would use the same mounts at the front and clamp mec at the back. but once i have the mould i can make to order...

Does anyone have a spare Valver bonnet i could borrow for a day. :wink:

Dan_mk1
25-04-2006, 15:31
Flan, gimme a shout when your ready, ill defo have one off ya.

clowo16v
25-04-2006, 16:09
How much extra will it be with the carbon bulge?

I'll definetley have one off you either way.

Matt

stevie_b
25-04-2006, 16:11
I was gonna do it a single skin of Fiberglas with internal ridges for ridgidity (sp) i was also gonna make it so they would use the same mounts at the front and clamp mec at the back. but once i have the mould i can make to order...

Does anyone have a spare Valver bonnet i could borrow for a day. :wink:

Flan - where are you based? My bonnet is already off the car so you are welcome to borrow for a few days - I'm on Essex/Suffolk border. I'm planning on junking the front mounts and clamp mechanism so just want one that is as light as possible please (without blowing apart in the wind at speed, of course!)

Cheers,

Steve

Lunner
25-04-2006, 16:29
He is near Milton Keynes, i just want a nice light skin....will pin it on

clowo16v
25-04-2006, 16:32
Same for me Lunner wouldn't mind the carbon scoop would look minter than mint with an orange bonnet and the black scoop.

Matt

Lunner
25-04-2006, 17:03
Personally i recon a carbon bulge woudl look naff......either all or nothing, and a recon a carbon skin woudl get nicked off mine too....stealth is the way to go 8)

Andy P
25-04-2006, 19:04
Might be interested in this too. If its upto Flans usual standard it should come out pretty damn good.

Will it be on at FCS mate so we can all have a look?

Lunner
25-04-2006, 19:16
Hopefully, but depends on funds, if its on it won't be painted

Andy P
25-04-2006, 19:42
Black bonnets can look ok. Like on white, or the nana (near as black)

but on blue, not really imo.

What does a standard bonnet weight?

Lunner
25-04-2006, 19:50
gotta be getting on for 20kg

clowo16v
25-04-2006, 19:55
My cars gonna be lairy orange though I think with black wheels so the black scoop could look OK. I'll photoshop it and see.

Matt

Andy P
25-04-2006, 19:58
Another of Flans money making schemes, fair play mate. Gotta make your money back for the Clio 20v somehow :wink:

Be good to get the weight down a little, need to loose the flabby leather soon 8)

Martin
25-04-2006, 19:59
gotta be getting on for 20kg

Yup thinks it's about 18kgs you can feel it....carried one a few hundred yards at york lol

stevie_b
25-04-2006, 23:09
17 kg on the scales the other day. But they probably aren't that accurate judging by what they say I weigh!

summeh
26-04-2006, 11:40
put me down for one in a few months... would want mine to fit original mounting brackets and latch.

I need all the clearence i can get above my fuel rail, so long as its not bulkier than the original in that area i shud be fine with my set up.

Flan
26-04-2006, 12:14
Think tom's lending me his bonnet which was nice. :wink:

thay will have the reses for the original badge, (is that cool)

Ill be making the mould this weekend so firs skin will be next week, i will post one up asap and they will be in gloss Black to start with. Carbon will ba a tad more but not allot. :wink:

Lunner
26-04-2006, 13:16
Not cool with badge recess......smooth yours and use that......you don't want my bonnet its got dents from both sides in it.

Depeending on price of carbon one carbon would be cool, but don't wanna pay masses more for it....means i don't have to paint it then :D

Dan_mk1
26-04-2006, 13:23
Coolio, sounds good 8)

summeh
26-04-2006, 16:00
i'd want one looking original, so with the badge reses :)

Lunner
26-04-2006, 18:23
i'd want one looking original, so with the badge reses :)

Theres always one difficult one.....

Martin
26-04-2006, 18:25
I want ...*elbows way to front of the queue* :P

Lunner
26-04-2006, 18:38
I want ...*elbows way to front of the queue* :P

*flick's Martin's ear*

From what i hear he should have the first one done very soon....and i'm first :P

Andy P
26-04-2006, 19:03
as long as the carbon one is less than £50 more it makes sense.

Its gunna cost an extra £50 to get painted anyway.

(im sure there is someone out there who can get it done cheaper)

Lunner
26-04-2006, 19:12
Its VERY hard to source the carbon in a width wide enoguh for the bonnet....and then you have the extra materials cost as well

Flan
27-04-2006, 09:19
Carbon scoop will be about £40 more, full carbon will be even more, K-tec cheat and put black gell-coat strips where the ridge is. this is an eaiser way of doing it but its not as nice, Im trying to source the carbon asap but will be grp for now,

Lunner you sure you don't want the badge resess..... Martin what would you prefer. i don't wanna make two moulds.... :lol:

2 live
27-04-2006, 09:25
worst thing with carbon bonnets is gettin the weave right......if its all skew whiff it looks shit...imo.


either with or without recess for badge for me mate lol.

Lunner
27-04-2006, 09:27
Yeah defo don't want it my smoothed bonnet on the RSi looked bad ass.....if i'm the onyl one who wants it smooth just do it with the recess and i'll fill it before i spray it, but would prefer not to as thats extra effort lol

Dan_mk1
27-04-2006, 09:28
With recess! :lol:

Flan
27-04-2006, 11:33
right i've ordered all my stuff, managed to get some carbon aswell... :wink:

but its gone up in price... :cry:

as for the weave, gettin it straight is quite easy but getting the air out... thats a bitch :lol:

Will keep ya posted :wink:

clowo16v
27-04-2006, 12:08
I'll have one as soon as poss mate.

Matt

Flan
02-05-2006, 21:02
Right, managed to borrow my mates girlfriends bonnet as its the mintest arround, Made the mould. Here's a few pics for ya...

Covered in GRP
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00162.jpg

6layers or fibreglass and wood to eliminate flex
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00165.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00166.jpg

Now i gotta get it out... :roll:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00167.jpg

out the mould. time to flat all the chips and marks out
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00175.jpg

Final Polish...ready to make a bonnet
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00176.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00177.jpg

Im still not 100% happy with the mould, few little marks i wanna polish out before i make one.... i've been through all this effort should put the extra time in to make them spot on...Plus black shows up all the inperfections (now i no why k-tec did them white :wink: )

its taken me 5 Days so far and the mould cost allot to make.

First bonnet this weekend... so who's first :D (pin on)

2 live
02-05-2006, 21:08
wot kinda price we lookin at?

VIPERONE
02-05-2006, 21:14
LOL..

im in need of one, as i dropped mine, :-(

i'll take one providing its a good fit, paintable etc. lol

Flan
02-05-2006, 21:22
Bout 140 i recon, i thought the stuff was cheaper than it was....

Gunner-they will be a like for like fit (if you want the brackets for std fitment)

First one's just for pin on but i can put brackets on if you like :wink:

and yes you can paint them, and fit the rain catcher. (extra weight) :lol:

ash clio gtt
02-05-2006, 21:30
any idea on the weight of them?

Clio_GTT
02-05-2006, 21:31
and a price on a carbon skin that need pinning ?

stevie_b
02-05-2006, 21:48
I'm ready to buy - have been looking to get one for a few weeks now. Just need to know the weight for the GRP one (for pinning) please.

Thanks

Steve

Flan
02-05-2006, 21:51
any idea on the weight of them?

dunno ash... ill weigh it soon as, i can make them 3kg... but you won't have it long :lol:



and a price on a carbon skin that need pinning ?

allot more, finding carbon that wide is hard. your lookin at least 250 i might make some with just carbon bulge. still have no carbon. my place let me down :cry:

bloody Air bus!!!!!

Flan
02-05-2006, 21:53
I'm ready to buy - have been looking to get one for a few weeks now. Just need to know the weight for the GRP one (for pinning) please.

Thanks

Steve

Right your first then Steve....lol ill get one made asap

now 2 skin will be very very light but quite flexable
3 skin will be like k-tec and still light,,,,

your call

Lunner
02-05-2006, 22:40
As soon as i know my car can be straightened i will be needing a 2 skin one....will text my order through....lol

clowo16v
03-05-2006, 11:50
I'll have a 2 skin one please. It might work out better to get a few orders from the north then we can share the hire of a van and pick a few up.

Matt

Lunner
03-05-2006, 11:54
I'll have a 2 skin one please. It might work out better to get a few orders from the north then we can share the hire of a van and pick a few up.

Matt

That sounds like a good idea for you guys

clowo16v
03-05-2006, 12:00
I'm just thinking about it cos I don't fancy putting a bonnet in the back of my mums car with the seats down as it might crack and I can't hire a van cos i'm not old enough, so it could work out cheaper for everybody.

Matt

cliorod
03-05-2006, 17:52
I have emailed Flan,with an order for two,one to be sent to Erdington,If Flan gets them all there,I have use of a van LWB Transit,and could collect from there for the price of diesel divided by number of customers,I live at the end of the M65, ~~~ Colne.Hope this will help,either way I cannot weight (!!!) :oops: :oops: to lose the weight off my steel bonnet :lol: :lol: ~~~ sorry about that chaps :oops:

clowo16v
03-05-2006, 18:01
That'd be great mate thats 3 bonnets so far. If theres a seat in the van and you want somebody to ride down with i'll go.

Matt

Flan
04-05-2006, 08:59
^^^ im gonna be a busy boy..... :P

they take about 3days each (evenings) to do them properly. so ill get on it right away.

Flan :wink:

Dan_mk1
04-05-2006, 09:23
Ill have a 3 skin one please chap :D

Flan
04-05-2006, 13:57
^^ No worries, orders via PM's so i have a record... :lol:

Gonna make the first one tonight as the weather is luuuuush

Ill keep ya posted :wink:

Lunner
04-05-2006, 15:07
MIGHT not need one so urgently now, will keep you posted

Flan
06-05-2006, 14:39
Right. here's a few pics of the firts one, Ideally this one will need painting as the grp is very thin and patchy. its very ridgid round the front, a tad flexy on the back but pinned down will be mint, This is a 2 skin one with extre fibreglass in places to give strength where its needed, i'd say its about 2.5Kg, its bloody light.

Here's a few pics i took. i couldn't be bothered to take my bonnet off so i just placed it on top for the pics

im happy with the result, althouh it takes a bloody long time and fibreglas itches like mad :evil:

inside,still dusty
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00185.jpg
On the floor
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00183.jpg
over my bonnet like a max power slut :wink:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00182.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/FlansS14/DSC00181.jpg

wat ya recon :P

VIPERONE
06-05-2006, 14:47
Thts great.. what will be happening with the vent?

Andy P
06-05-2006, 14:48
Looks spot on mate, come out really well.

Decided on a price yet? :wink:

Flan
06-05-2006, 14:50
depends what people wanna do really. it can me cut out for the original vent and rain catcher, or just cut to a large hole for better air flow then meshed, up to individual customers i guess :wink:

and pin on ones will be £140

bolt on ones i dunno... there gonna have to be 3 skin plus with strengthing bars so i gotta work on that one :roll:

richy
06-05-2006, 16:15
look good flan, maybe at a later date i can afford one but right now its not a option!

Martin
06-05-2006, 16:23
I want one asap mate how do I get the money you? I'll have 3skin with stnd vent hole ...pin on

ash clio gtt
06-05-2006, 17:40
ooo that would be good for me with no vent stop the pesky rain going on my carb :lol: 2.5kg is uber light if only i hadnt blown my turbo could have got one this month :roll:

clowo16v
06-05-2006, 18:17
How long till mines sorted mate?

Matt

stevie_b
24-05-2006, 22:01
Picked mine up on Sunday. Great quality - Stuart has done a real good job on them. So good I will probably not bother painting mine, which will save another few hundred grammes :). All in it is a good 12kg lighter than the std bonnet.

Strong too, as I found out when some muppet decided to pull out of a pub car park across my path of travel with me quite close at 60mph. Heaved on the brakes to slow up two tonnes of car and contents (incl. F7R in the back!) and heard bonnet banging around in the back and expected to check it later to find it busted, but was glad to find it in perfect condition.

If anyone wants photos of it on the car then I can take some, although it is not finished yet as need to cut out rain catcher and add bonnet pins, etc. Also car is in a mess as stripping has taken a back seat (not literally - there aren't any back seats in it now!) whilst I sort out my new F7Rs to go in!

VIPERONE
27-05-2006, 13:03
can someonepost me a pic of the pin on fixing points.. i havent got a clue

MAXIBOY
27-05-2006, 15:26
can you make them with a carbon fibre bulge and hinge mountings

Flan
27-05-2006, 18:18
can you make them with a carbon fibre bulge and hinge mountings

currently workin on a hinged one atm.. carbon fibre bulge can be made, ill be trying one for mine when i get time..lol :wink:

Glad you liked is Steve, top bloke. nice BMW too. :lol:

MAXIBOY
29-05-2006, 17:19
will be intrested in one carbon bugle hinged item let me know